Let that be a lesson to all young aspiring stage-divers: NEVER STAGE DIVE DURING AN ORGCORE BAND’S SET. THEY ARE OLD MEN WHO DON’T UNDERSTAND THE LIFESTYLES OF THE YOUTH. THEY HAVE THE SAME SET OF VALUES AS YOUR PARENTS. They are probably used to telling their kids similar things. Don’t cuss! Clean your room! No eating in the living room! Don’t mix molly with coke! Please kids, just SAY NO to orgcore, for christ’s sakes!
If you’ve ever been a part of any music scene, you’ve probably known that one guy who some would identify as a “poser”. Actually, there’s a good chance you’ve known a bunch of them. Perhaps you even were one and maybe you still are (s0 many options!). You know, those kids who are super into whatever is trendy at the time, until it becomes too trendy so they move on to the next lesser trendy thing, which in turn becomes the more trendy thing due to everyone migrating at the same time (sort of like when a toilet overflows, soon enough there will be more shit-water on the floor than there is in the bowl). Then all of a sudden, when they turn 18-22ish*, (*age differs greatly depending on the poser, some prehistoric posers linger for longer) they magically stop caring about music and stop going to shows, once they are able to find popularity through some other type of medium, and successfully manage to escape whichever dark domain of the alternative music world that they were trapped in.
I’m guessing metal in this case means Asking Alexandria.
“Posers” are usually seen as the enemy in the eyes of any “ELITE MUSIC FAN”. I can’t count the number of times I’ve heard one of these elites go on a rant about how much they hate posers and how they’re “ruining the scene”. In worse cases, sometimes bands do it. Well, if you identify as one of said people who hates posers, I’m sorry to break it to you, but these posers are a vital component to the music scene and could possibly be more important than you…
5 Seconds of Summer member flaunting his OG crabcore cred.
First off, let’s talk about merch. If you really are the real music fan that you claim to be, then you won’t feel the need to prove to anyone how into (insert band) or (insert genre) you are. The poser feels the complete opposite. They feel the need to validate themselves. So they dress the part. You bought one of your favorite band’s shirts? That’s cool. The poser just ordered their entire merch catalog. He is contributing in a very important way by financially supporting the band. In the perfect world seen through the eyes of a “real music fan”, all of a band’s support would come from their fan’s undying love and appreciation for the music. Sorry bros, it doesn’t work like that. Gear costs money. Recording costs money. Gas to fuel their tanks so they can make it to the next show costs money, which brings me to my next point…
Chart exaggerated slightly for effect.
See, these posers account for a certain number of attendees at a show. As much as some people don’t want to admit it, music is a business, and supply and demand is the name of the game here. Every person who pays at the door (poser or not) is helping contribute to make this show happen. For all you die-hard true fans, does being around these “posers” really lessen the experience of going to see a band you like? Let’s say you’re seeing one of your favorite bands, is it really going to bother you that much that the dude next to you is lip syncing to lyrics that he doesn’t know? Or maybe he doesn’t care much for the music and just really enjoys moshing and stage-diving? He’s probably having more fun than you are. He’s part of the reason why you even get to see the band play in the first place.
In an elitist’s ideal world, none of these posers would come to shows and it would only be people who are all about the music and super passionate and crap, but that’s just not realistic. I’ve witnessed promoters cancel shows because next to no one bought tickets. Why wouldn’t they? They have to pay the venue and the bands and that money has to come from somewhere. I saw a band play in the basement of a record store and me and my friend were the only people that showed up and paid at the door. This band came from Winnipeg. That’s a 24 hour drive. They drove 24 hours to play to two people. Please, if you are one of those people who fantasize about this magical land without posers, trust me, dis ain’t what you want.
So next time you come across a poser, give him a high five, or even try to become his friend. From my experience, these types of people are a lot better adjusted socially than the ones who are super into the music. If you’re awkward, it always helps to have some normal friends. If the music you’re into is trendy with a poser-ridden fanbase, be thankful for it. Consider it a compliment that people even think the type of music you listen to is cool enough for them to want to be a part of it. Hope that it stays that way for as long as possible, because sometimes you don’t know what you have until it’s gone.
Have you had any funny or memorable experiences with posers? Do you find that posers are usually a lot more chill than the ppl who are “rly into the music”? Do you think that elitists ranting about posers is more cringe-worthy than anything any poser has said or done?
As you may have heard, former ATTACK ATTACK drummer Andrew Wetzel has a new band called NINE SHRINES, and they are straight up #hardrock. If you’re too lazy to click the video (or you’re reading this while you’re in a boring meeting), imagine SALIVA meets COLD meets HINDER and you’ll have a pretty good idea of the song. And the video, which is girls who probably wear bedazzled Affliction jeans and have tribal tramp stamps doing shots and dancing (aka living the #hardrock lifestyle) just kind of drives the point home.
I have two thoughts on this video/song: first of all, from here on out we should refer to all heavy-ish bands as either “screamo” or “hard rock.” One or the other. Like “Hey man wanna go see that hard rock band ALL SHALL PERISH? They’re opening for this cool screamo band called PERIPHERY.”
Second, this new wave of american hard rock (NWOAHR) reminds me of the cringey period in the mid-to-late 80s where all the 80s hardcore bands went hard rock. A few examples, for those who aren’t familiar with this dark period in hc history:
SSD were probably the worst offenders imo, who went from reasonably good, thrashy hardcore to absolutely AWFUL hard rock in the span of just 2 or 3 years. I mean there were a lot of crappy records from this period, and “How We Rock” is easily among the worst of them. Just offensively terrible.
I actually liked JUNKYARD– and yes, the guitarist is Brian Baker of MINOR THREAT, DAG NASTY, and BAD RELIGION.
If you were a kid in the early 90s, you definitely bought a GANGREEN tape out of the dollar bin at some point or another, hoping that it would be rad thrash like CIRCLE JERKS or MDC, only to put it in and get… this *exasperated face emoji* Somehow maybe even shittier than SSD.
I could list dozens more horrifingly shitty 80s bands, but the point is that we’ve seen this before, and we know where it leads. “We’re maturing as musicians and want to try something different,” “We want to make music that reaches a broader audience than what -core would limit us too,” etc etc. Guys, take it from me: in 10-15 years we will look back on this and give anything to take it all back. Just like the 80s bands did, we’ll all ask ourselves, “Why the fuck did we all start playing terrible hard rock?? What were we thinking?!” Don’t do this. Don’t be the next GANGREEN.
If u aren’t familiar with the concept of ‘peak oil,’ it’s pretty simple: the basic idea is that at some point, we will reach a point at which the maximum rate of oil extraction is reached, and after that its all downhill until we end up in a Mad Max-like apocalyptic nightmare where you’ll shank someone over a gallon of gas. I think the idea has a lot of merit, but what i’m really wondering is, are we close to ‘peak cassette??’
has merchswap culture reached it’s zenith? has the novelty of jizzing over dead media formats and longsleeves finally begun to wear off?? or am i just being hopelessly naive and optimistic, my sanity worn thin after neon was killed before my eyes, replaced with shoegaze, sadbois and bucket hats???
when its gets to the point where we are talking about ‘represses’ of fucking tapes, i think it is safe to say that we have reached ‘peak cassette’
Dictionary.com defines evolution as “any process of formation or growth; development”. We see evolution EVERYWHERE. Not just in plants and animals, but in art too. Do you ever think to yourself, “where did all the awesome scene music that I enjoy today come from? What are its origins? What was music like before the breakdown?“ Well, believe it or not, it actually came from hardcore punk from the 80′s. I know what you’re probably thinking: “there was hardcore music in the 80′s?” Or maybe if you’re aware of this ancient form of hardcore, you might be confused as to how such a brainless primitive style of music could evolve into something so ravishing and beautiful. Let me show you how. But in order to do so, we have to go back to the very start. Ladies and gentleman, I present to you: an inclusive account of the evolution of hardcore.
1978 – The Beginning of “Hardcore”
Don’t let the album title mislead you, there are no breakdowns.
So this marks the beginning of hardcore. I put hardcore in quotations because I’m not really sure why Black Flag is even considered hardcore, despite being regarded as the seminal pioneers of the genre. I mean, they’ve never even used the fast beat, which is supposed to be the basis for all of these primordial hardcore bands. Even Asking Alexandria have used the fast beat. That makes them more hardcore than Black Flag. BF just sort chugs along (no, not the good type of chug) at a neanderthalic pace, much like the proconsul primate seen on the far left of the evolution chart above. Actually, since they’re more like proto-hardcore, I would relate them more to the aegyptopithecus zeuxis.
I think they reunited last year, but just a small-type gig, for friends and family and stuff. I heard their kids came to see them play after they got babysitters to watch over their kids (BF’s grand-kids) while they were away at the concert. But that’s not to say to say that BF doesn’t have any non-blood related fans. A few BFF’s (Black Flag Fans) have assembled this weird blog in which they have photoshopped BF shirts onto hundreds of celebrities. It’s like they have some sort of strange fantasy that involves important people acknowledging or caring about their niche little thing.
Lol, Simon Cowell wearing a BF shirt… yeah right. BF’s singer would get roasted so devastatingly bad during an American Idol try-out that he leave the room crying.
That awkward moment when the dude wearing a Nickelback shirt is more believable.
Kim Kardashian repping Black Flag? Not likely. Maybe if the shirt said “Black Dick”.
Well, Christopher Walken is like 70, so this one is possible.
Apart from these obsessive BFF’s fan page, I did some research on their singer and found out he’s a whiny old man…
Can you believe a senior citizen is acting like this? He’s displaying the maturity of a little kid! Everybody’s poking at him? Who does he think he is? The pillsbury doughboy?
Why did they get an 8 year old to interview him? Could he not handle an intellectually stimulating conversation had by two adults? They had to get someone who’s more on his level?
1981 – Hardcore Gets Fast
Not sure why it took 3 years to come to this development but this marks when hardcore discovered the fast beat. Minor Threat were the first band to incorporate the fast beat into their music. Much like a baby’s first words, it’s cute… but it’s not very impressive. Music aside, Minor Threat were known more for the popularization of two important hardcore ethos, the “Do It By Yourself” mentality and the “Straight Edge” lifestyle, both of which would become inapplicable in the near future.
Don’t let their PC white boy demeanor mislead you, Minor Treat has been met with some controversy. Apparently they caught heat for the lyrics of their song “Guilty of Being White” for being perceived as racist. I didn’t check many of their other songs but I think lyrically that must be their best one and it’s actually really relevant today considering how oppressed straight white cisgender males are today all over dumb blogs on the internet. Minor Treat only lasted a couple years I think because they thought the music they were making was crappy so they broke up and started another band.
Check out how rude their singer is. The lady is asking him a bunch of valid questions and he just ignores her like she doesn’t even exist! Things that Ian Mackaye is “too cool” for: drugs, alcohol, professional record distributors and show promoters, interviews.
Are people sure he doesn’t do drugs? He seems pretty drugged out to me here, rambling about all this incoherent nonsense. Hippies on acid could probably come up with better jargon.
1984 – Hardcore Gets a Little Bit Less Shitty
This is where you can tell production value gets a little bit better. They maybe even went to a studio I think. I’ll admit, when someone first showed me this album, I would’ve thought it was from maybe like 1986, not 1984. But let’s be honest, it’s still pretty fucking crappy. Their song “Not Just Boys Fun” served as a white knight anthem at the time, pioneering a new sub-genre of hardcore known as “fedoracore”.
“UGH, fuck all these ignorant ass jocks who pay money to come see us play and disrespect all of the non-existent women at our shows.”
Channing Tatum repping the fedoracore aesthetic.
1989 – Hardcore Becomes (Somewhat) Listenable
Gorilla Biscuits paid homage to the idea of “evolving hardcore” on the cover of their album “Start Today”. Unfortunately they were far from the homo sapien stage of evolution.
Now, don’t get it twisted, I said listenable, not good. Right now we are approaching the ardipithecus ramidus stage. A new style of hardcore emerged in the late 80′s called “The Youth Crew”, which was a small circle of bands who had the idea of taking the energy of hardcore and mixing it with the musical sensibilities of a good genre. Most bands who attempted this did not have such great results but one band that kind of had the right idea was “Gorilla Biscuits”. I’m not sure why they named themselves after a street drug when they were a straight edge band. That’s like starting a vegan hardcore band called “Filet Mignon”.
One of the members of the youth crew… post-youth.
1995 – Hardcore Gets Heavy
While bands like Gorilla Biscuits focused on adding melody to hardcore, bands like Earth Crisis added heaviness. Now, these guys were straight edge and vegan, so you can imagine how preachy their lyrics are. I’m not sure if they were atheism-pushers, but I wouldn’t put it past them. While I do respect Earth Crisis for being heavier than their ancestors before them, they are pretty boring and super dated. I would liken Earth Crisis to the homo habilis stage of evolution. They were very primitive and used stone tools such as the ones on their album cover, butuntil they start gaining the nutritional benefits found only through eating meat, they will not be able to evolve to the next stage.
1999 – The Dawning of Fake Hardcore and the Fashioncore Revolution
We are now approaching the modern era. Songwriting is becoming better, production is becoming crisper, musicianship is becoming tighter, breakdowns are becoming more plentiful. To represent this era, I have chosen a very advanced track by Poison The Well in which they use the “scream verse, sing chorus” song structure that is found in almost all modern Scenecore. Meanwhile, a band called Eighteen Visions was pioneering a new aesthetic in hardcore that would soon be known as “fashioncore” and served as a progenitor of forthcoming scene fashion.
Eighteen Visions sporting their fashioncore look.
Jonny OC, the vocalist of popular ignorant mosh-turned srscore band Liferuiner was a huge fan of the fashioncore scene during its heyday.
2004 – Emotional Hardcore
In the mid 2000′s, bands started innovating a new genre of HC called “emotional hardcore”. They usually sung about depressing stuff like slitting their wrists and applying eyeliner. I’m not going to bash it too hard though because it is the closest related ancestor to Scenecore. I guess that would mean it is what the homo erectus is to the homo sapien. I would say that Underoath is the single most important and influential band to the Scenecore genre. They stuck out from the rest of their peers with a certain flair that the other bands lacked. They are like the caveman who discovered fire. When I’m older, I want to start a Scenecore museum, and when I do, Underoath will be the first band that will be inducted into it.
2007 – Early Scenecore
Early Scenecore (also sometimes referred to as “Classical Scenecore”) was pioneered by bands such as A Skylit Drive, Escape The Fate, Alesana, Blessthefall, and Drop Dead, Gorgeous. These bands paved the way for every Rise Records band with a $40,000 recording contract and a 3 year life expectancy. Homo sapiens are thought to be divided into two subspecies: homo sapiens neanderthalensisandhomo sapien sapiens(otherwise known as anatomically modern humans). Think of this stuff as the neanderthalensis and modern Scenecore as the latter.
Beau Bokan from Blessthefall rocking a Minor Threat shirt in AP Magazine. Not sure why he is wearing it but at least it’s good promo for MT. Not that a band that’s been broken up for 40 years needs promo. I wonder how he got it? Was there an old folks home next to the Goodwill where he picked it up?
2010 – Modern Scenecore
The modern era of Scenecore was vanguarded by crabcore innovators Attack Attack (RIP) and scene heavyweights such as We Came As Romans, I See Stars, and Asking Alexandria. Modern Scenecore is defined by ballsier breakdowns, catchier choruses and pro-er production. Laced brilliantly with state of the art synthesizers and vocal processing, modern Scenecore can best be described as “the cutting edge”. I remember this era so fondly and the feeling of excitement and curiosity that I experienced upon hearing some of these bands for the first time which will probably not be replicated ever again in my life. This is the Homo sapien sapien. This is the modern human. This is what fundamentalist Christians think God skipped all of the other subordinate steps to get to. It is truly the cream of the crop, the crim de la crim… or is it?
2014 – Progressive Scenecore
Issues is a band that is pushing the boundaries of what we know as Scenecore, paving the way for all future innovation to come. You’re probably thinking – but where can the genre go from here, after such an advanced band like Issues has set the bar so high? Is this it? Is this the pinnacle? Well, if you asked me in 2010 if I thought there would be a Scenecore band with a scratch DJ, a seasoned R&B singer, and 1.5 black members, I would probably say no. Yet here we are. The point I’m trying to make is that evolution is an ever-progressing development that cannot be stopped and we should feel privileged to be living in such an exciting era, thanks to bands like Issues, who continue to expand the horizons of such an already vast scenery. The sky is the limit, my friends, the sky is the limit.
Oh, and for all the nerds who are going to be like “this stuff doesn’t have anything to do with hardcore” or “this isn’t what hardcore evolved into”. Let’s take a look at the top tag of the most popular currently active Scenecore bands on last.fm. What you’re about to find out might shock you…
I rest my case…
Rare fossil discovered by a modern day scene kid.
Where do you see the future of the Scenecore genre heading? Are you a creationist and just skip to 2010 to pretend that all of the anatomically and musically inferior stuff never happened? Will there ever be a band that is more advanced than Issues?
photo of un-tattooed arm and mildly annoying-looking white girl: so simple but so fucking brilliant
For the most part, I am kind of over “trolling.” I mean, I get it… but it’s just not that interesting or clever 99% of the time. But what I will never, ever get tired of is when blindingly obvious satire/trolling gets taken 100% seriously by some group of humor-challenged autists and stirs up a giant storm of buttpain. For example, the Not Listening To Metal page on Facebook, and my new favorite page Tattoo-free (And Happy).
As you can see, all of the posts are shockingly obvious satire/trolling, but as you might expect from the special snowflake community, a tidal wave of spergy buttpain sweeps through the comments on every single one of them (which ironically proves the page’s premise that tattooed people are imbeciles to be 100% correct):
ehehehe it might be better if i don’t answer ur question
No idea who made this page, but hats off!! You somehow managed to find a group of people who are more gullible, defensive, and poorly educated than metal fans. And for that, I salute you.
The image above says it all: merch just isn’t what it used to be. Walk into a Hot Topic in 2014 and instead of being blinded by a rainbow of giant, neon cartoon imagery reflecting off of foil print “Stay Brutal” shirts, you have little more to choose from than black, white and several shades of grey *crying face emoji*
If u miss the glory days of coontail extensions, flatirons and sidekicks then this post is for you!!
What better way to start than with (former) scene icons THE DEVIL WEARS PRADA? At the time I thought they had their merch game on lock (and I guess they did in terms of sales) but most of these are shockingly shitty in terms of aesthetics and borderline childish– like, they wouldn’t look out of place at all in Deliah’s or Justice.
Of course my personal favorite is the “before they were tr00″ collection. Hey TWY, CARNIFEX and WHITECHAPEL, you’re not fooling us– we remember when u had neon cartoon animals on ur shirts like 3 years ago.
Not only was this PIERCE THE VEIL shirt an excellent example of the “cartoony block letters” aesthetic, they somehow managed to get placed in TWO of that year’s biggest crossover hit videos (JASON DERULO “In My Head” and NEW BOYZ “You’re A Jerk”). Myron hard.
ALL TIME LOW dropped a few hammers in the neon era, most notably these two– I *LOVE* the “middle school girl’s doodles” aesthetic and they nailed it. I found the artists site once but lost the URL. His work was awesome though, and a fixture in the “scene” section of the Hot Topic t-shirt wall!
While putting this together i noticed that there was a whole subgenre of “light blue shark” shirts. Probably a few more I didn’t even find. Weird.
For one of the most neon bands ever, FOREVER THE SICKEST KIDS had a surprisingly small amount of iconic neon merch. That said, their good stuff was REALLY good– I owned both of these.
I consider this the “missing link” stage between neon and tr00: you can tell they’re trying to be “metal” but the colors are too bright and the drawings are too good/fun.
And last but not least, the undisputed kings of neon monster scene merch, ROCKETT– featuring a truly spectacular SET YOUR GOALS shirt. *standing ovation gif*
What was YOUR favorite neon merch? Will this aesthetic make a comeback after people are tired of grey and floral print logo merch?? Should we all confront today’s tr00est bands with the evidence of their neon past???
Code Orange Kids: another name in a laundry list of bands I originally disregarded that eventually managed to step their game up and blow me away. I wasn’t that into COK (heh) originally because they had way too many melodic interludes and they gave off a strong amazingcore vibe instead of consistently bringing the mosh.
hey broe the spoken word poetry slam is at the art studio down the street
But this summer they dropped the KIDS from their name, became CODE ORANGE (because they are srs musicians who make art for mature adults only) and started playing some of the most fucked up hardcore I’ve heard all year. Their new album I AM KING is a zillion times heavier than their old stuff, with a very hostile, oppressive, almost anti-social vibe. I’d attribute a lot of the album’s success to the massive production job courtesy of the one and only Kurt Ballou. It’s already been blowing up online for weeks now, so now is the time to get familiar with the most hyped record of 2014. Be careful not to cut yourself on all the edge.
haha wat the fuck guys
My theory is these guys got jealous of Twitching Tongues after their album “In Love There is No Law” blew up, so they decided to reinvent their band with a different name and new sound. I’d definitely classify this as closedcasketcore, but even that doesn’t quite do these songs justice. The best way to describe this album is lots of Twitching Tongues breakdowns/doom riffs combined with Admiral Angry levels of groove and lots of unnerving sound effects like a creepier version of the first Slipknot album.
congrats to Code Orange for being the first BLAIRWITCHCORE band
They’ll be touring with Twitching Tongues and various other CCA bands this fall (Soul Search and Discourse included). I hate to say it but I fully expect the crowds to be way more into Code Orange than TT. Both bands are fairly weird but dogmatic music nerds are way more likely to complain about Colin’s buttrock vocals than all the weird sound effects and skronk riffs on the new Code Orange songs. I’m going to go out on a limb here and bet that I AM KING-worship is going to be the biggest trend in hardcore over the next 2-3 years. The credibility of nu metal bands like Korn, Bloodlet and Disembodied will rise within the hardcore scene, the amount of Converge shirts at shows will increase dramatically, and more and more metal nerds will get into closedcasketcore until you can’t even tell the difference between metal dorks and hardcore dorks.
wtf is the deal with this album? do all the spooky sound effects make you feel like ur in a scary movie? what are you going to be for Halloween?