I am sad to report that Kevin Seconds is officially a remember of the No Fun Club :( As you may know, Kev is the singer of the legendary hardcore band 7 Seconds. Now that I think about it, they were probably the band responsible for laying the foundation for easycore, but sadly Kevin seems to be playing folk, classic rock, and (worst of all) "Americana" these days. In the same way as it bums me out when I notice my 65 year-old mother begin to show signs of old age, my soul died a little bit when I saw Kev's favorite bands were Elvis Costello, Johnny Cash and Billy Bragg.
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7 Seconds performing their classic rock hit, "Walk Together, Rock Together" in 1985 (several years before you were born)
Nothing says, "I'm fucking old, out of touch, and proud" like retreating into the safety of dusty, irrelevant "jamz 4 oldz" like the above artists. Actually, there is one thing that says "get off my lawn" even more strongly: Getting butthurt about a contemporary band, especially when you're 18 months late to the party. For example, Kevin Seconds' entry-level "angry dad/kids these days" rant about BrokeNYCDE on his Facebook (thanks to Jose Galvan for the tip):
"BrokeNCYDE can suck my asshole. No wonder younger 'rock' music fans are so stupid and fucked up."
-My dad Kevin Seconds
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"Little kids are learning to sing in a style that sounds like they are going through autotune!" = 2K10 washed up hardcore legend version of "What is this noise? You can't even hear the words!!"
Oh, and LOL @ the guy who wrote "Together" and "Soulforce Revolution" getting all high and mighty :P
So much for "Young Until I Die" amirite?!
Kev on MySpace
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i find it ironic that the owner of this blog- who is self-proclaimed tp be "old and angry"- bags on kevin seconds for what he said, yet in the blog entry directly below this one the blog owner does the very same thing himself. are you kidding me?
Kevin Seconds with 7 Seconds or without is an incredible musician and artist. I like his solo stuff so add me to the No Fun Club too. I'll wear that shit like a badge. Maybe you should try branching out to other forms of music. I grew up listening to bands like his, saw them back in the 80's and again a couple years back and the guy can still rock the fuck out. Is Ian Mackaye a sell out old hipster too for his work in The Evens?
Johnny Cash as an influence is a bad thing? Do some research on Billy Bragg too, that guy is more punk rock than most of these Warped tour hacks.
Is Ian Mackaye a sell out old hipster too for his work in The Evens?
Yes
It's just an evolution of their music. The music sounds different yet has the same message. I just tend to listen outside of the box. I think tastes evolve over time. I listen to shit I never thought I would back when I was in my teens and I really do enjoy it. If this type of thing is your bag enjoy it man. I just can't buy into the fact you think Cash, Bragg and Costello are bad influences on anyone. I was there back in the early days of hardcore and it was great, some of it still is I can't deny that at all but man...really?
It's honestly disappointing to see the guy who wrote "Young Until I Die" hating on kids who are doing EXACTLY THE SAME THING as he/we did 20 or 30 years earlier.
Kev: DONT HATE, CONGRATULATE!
But...this is like someone back in our day sounding like Pink Floyd or Led Zeppelin. It was done 20 or 30 years ago. Why not create an original sound. Warped tour really doesn't need 30 bands, more like 3 or 4 because they all sound the same. Well I don't want to say they sound the same but for the most part you seen one you seen them all at this point.
In the 80's I saw the great ones DK, 7 Seconds, Black Flag, JFA, Flipper...shit you name it and I was there. This stuff is just more of the same and it has never really evolved. I still go to shows like this here and there don't get me wrong. It is good for what it is but I can't see being a part of this scene anymore but that might be because I'm too old. ;)
It is good for what it is but I can't see being a part of this scene anymore but that might be because I'm too old. ;)
Exactly. Like Suicidal said, "Just because you don't understand it, doesn't mean it don't make sense."
You don't have to LIKE Brokencyde, but hating is extremely un-punk. And if you think Brokencyde isn't original, well, you are out of the loop.
Fuck This Fool
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Um... that's a HUGE stretch to compare what 7SECONDS were doing to what brokNCYDE are doing today. The only thing they have in common is that this is what some of the kids were up to. If you want to make a more valid comparison, brokNCYDE are more like the Angry Samoans. They just don't give a fuck. 7SECONDS did, and Kev obviously still does, so they're probably more like Attack! Attack!
Ah, but you can see he hates them too. Your criticisms are more in line if you substitute Attack! Attack! for brokNCYDE.
Always love to see someone talking about 7SECONDS...
Would it be fair to say that BrokeNYCDE is to hardcore what Sigue Sigue Sputnik were to punk?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ff974Ocxl4Q&feature=related
"Oh honey, the kids are just having fun. Let them be and come inside. You know that too much sun makes you break out in a rash."
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Sarge, you may be going off the deep end hurr, bro.... The young people will still be young, and you'll just keep getting old and creepy.
7 Seconds were notable for covering a (then contemporary) female top 40 MTV jam in a totally enthusiastic, affectionate & non-ironic way. All 80's pop is considered 'cool' by tastemakers now but back then I'm sure quite a few punk types stuck their nose up at "Stupid mainstream corporate MTV pop crap"
But Kevie Seconds and the gang was like "No way, this song rules! and we're gonna play it, only HARDER! With crucial sing alongs plus really fast parts that our bros can circle pit to. It's gonna be rad!"
And indeed it was rad. And so was born the entire template for the "Punk goes Pop/Crunk" phenomenon and all the good/awful that sprung from it.
If 7 Seconds were coming up today they'd be doing screamo covers of "Party in the USA"
Crunkcore bands need to stand up to guys like this and demand some original and inspired ranting! This is so completely generic and boring.
Holy shit, I don't check this blog for like a month and I come back to three pages of old posts to look at!
LOL @ the Angry Samoans/brokeNCYDE comparisons, it makes soooo much sense... from the bratty-teenager vocals of both bands to the way they make self-righteous 'PC' scenesters get majorly butthurt...
I've missed you, SYWH.
The problem with BrokeNCYDE is that we can't tell where the Jonas Brothers stops and Brokencyde begins. Punk/Hardcore was something kids and culture created. You faggots should be sucking Kevin's ball's because without people like Kevin, Ian McKay, Henry Rollins we'd all still be listening to American Top 40 and watching Michael Jackson on MTV.
Bow down before your creator, motherfuckers.
You are all just following the templates the Disney Channel has provided you in your early years.
OK, I checked them out on the You Tube...and honestly BrokeNCYDE could possibly be the worst thing I have heard in some time. Please tell me it is some elaborate joke, right? At least the old school punk rock bands could actually play an instrument. But I see the comparison now because their lyrics are so deep and meaningful for the times. Well what I can understand of them. People actually listen to this shit? It reminds me of all those idiots who though ICP was good. Again, wow does this shit suck. You are right...it is stuff I will hate.
The amount of panties getting in a twist over this blog is blowing the fuck up lately which is I'm pretty sure is the whole intention of the thing.
I don't understand the appeal of half the shit Sarge posts but you know what, it's not SUPPOSED TO. It's not written/produced/played or whatever for dudes who grew up listening to the Cro-Mags and Infest.
I agree that hating some kids who have a touring band solely because YOU don't like or "get" the music is so UN-PUNK you should be forced to burn all your Crimethinc pamphlets, break all your Flux of Pink Indian vinyl and beg Sam McPheeters for forgiveness.
I saw 7 Seconds with Circle Jerks back in '88 and even at that point they were something of a nostalgia act. (At least for the fans.)
Crunkcore is the punk rock of punk rock. BrokeNCYDE, Jeffree Star, and The Millionaires at the Warped Tour in '09 is like The Ramones opening for Johnny Winter in '75, with the same angry, confused reaction from fans of old music. If middle aged punks and metalheads hate it, they must be doing something right. Devo said it best in Whip It: "Give the past the slip."
Graying punks (lampooned on SNL tonight) and headbangers of my generation dismiss crunkcore, deathcore, screamo, electroclash etc. But who cares what us old farts think. A lot of these new bands have better musicianship than the bands I listened to in high school. The Birthday Massacre rules.
Haha, I thought the old-school punk bands were proud of their incompetence at playing any instruments! These kids are doing the exact same thing there, only using more modern technology.
I'm even older than Sarge and I had no problem "getting" crunkcore at all. I give the credit to Texas country which has plenty of totally shameless, filthy songs about getting drunk and getting laid. Crunkcore is just like those songs, only for city kids.
there is nothing punk about brokencyde you faggots.
Kev's just hating cause they did a joint with E-40!
i mean, jesus, can nobody leave anybody alone anymore?! no! "hey, brokeNCYDE said "pussy" oooooo!!! it's a bad word, they're horrible. ooo! they combined hip hop and screamo to make crunkcore!!! oooo!!! that makes them a horrible band!!!!" oh come on ppl! how old r we? 3? let them do what they feel like. for the land of the free america surely isn't standing up to its name is it? ib really do hope that ppl would just stop hating on brokeNCYDE. first of all, it does nothing but prove ur immature. second, they don't give a shit,so y bother? these guys r made out to b these horrible ppl when they're just chill guys. So they smoke, do drugs, drink, and have sex. so what? a lot of kids did the same bakc in the 60s and on through the 80s and still do! even if their parents don't know. even parents do it! so don't go hating on brokeNCYDE when they're just like everyone else except they did something with their lives. they took a risk most musicians would never take, which only puts them down as musical pioneers. they r true musicians. they don't hate on anybody, but yet every1 hates on them. they don't say anything back or do anything back. they just take it and put it out in their music. so just let them be. what's the harm? we listen to hip hop with lyrics talking about the same shit. if e40 ( a big big big hip hop artist from the bay area) and Daddy X (one of the members of the hip hop/rock based band, Kottonmouth Kings)gave them a chance, then that's saying something. 2 big music artists from larger and bigger categories worked with what you call "scum", "underdogs", "trash", "shitty". those didn't seem to be the words running through the minds of e40 and daddy x's minds. they were thinking this could work. and it did!!! so just back off because a lot of u listen to really crappy music sometimes too.
I can't tell whether that comment is serious or not, but either way, it is amazing and I agree 100%!
so is the term "no fun club" pretty much the "playa hata" for irony soaked white boys?
More or less, only I'm not being ironic. I really do like fun.
everyone loves fun!!!! sometimes....unless they're retarded ppl who don't give a fuck and are just gay ass fags who inist on ppl not having freedom, then yes, everybody loves having fun! =]: snake bite smiley face. damn! i love that thing!!!!
i find the funniest part about brokencyde is that they consider their lighting guy as a member of the band. probably because only one of them play an instrument.
this debate has gotten old, hardcore and crunk dont need to cross over, its a silly fucking genre. sure, it might make a few gender confused 14 year old girls a touch unhappy but im sure theyll find some men with beards and proper haircuts someday that they can worship.
This ISN'T aggro.
I think that it's pretty hilarious that so many people are up in arms about this whole "Crunk-Core" thing... It's silly. It's stupid. And the people who are complaining about them and trying to make parallels to bands who were in their prime 20-25 years ago are giving them waaayy too much credit, as well as wasting waayy too much time caring. Fuck 'em. Leave 'em alone. Let them have their fun- soon enough the world will have forgotten about them and move on to the next "cool" or "edgy" or "alternative" gimmick.
If you don't like em, who cares? Let them have their fifteen minutes; They'll soon be dead from AIDS or some other karmically poetic device.
They'll soon be dead from AIDS or some other karmically poetic device.
LOLOLOL A++
What the fuck is "fun" about brokencyde?
That song bree bree is fucking offensive to the ears. When they make that awful high pitched "bree" sound, its just not listenable at all. How could you even kinda like this band? Its fucking horrible.
Sergeant D, you talk shit about other bands yet practically suck brokencyde's talentless cocks.
Kill yourself fag.
"So they smoke, do drugs, drink, and have sex. so what? a lot of kids did the same bakc in the 60s and on through the 80s" Yeah, cause , straight edge, bands like 7 Seconds were totally like that in the 80s.
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