I’ve noticed more and more kids who were barely old enough to shit their diapers at the time getting nostalgic about 90s hardcore. It’s understandable (I did the same thing with 80s hardcore when I was their age), but the truth is that you should thank your lucky stars if you missed out on 90s hardcore. Here’s a couple pieces of visual evidence:
Typical 90s hardcore show. In this case it’s Zao, probably playing somewhere stupid like Zanesville, Ohio. Judging by the fluorescent lights and acoustic ceiling, it looks like the back room of some church. Also note that there are like 25 people there, none of the instruments are miked (it was a rare treat when drum sets were miked) and there are absolutely no hot, slutty girls in attendance. Also, note the guitarist’s small t-shirt tucked in his giant pants.
Undertow in California, most likely from 1993 or so. LOL @ John Pettibone rocking the frosted tips and giant pants– pretty funny that this is the same guy who went on to sing for Himsa and wear denim vests with Venom patches.
In this video, some kids play kickball outside some late-90s emo fest in Michigan. I could write a whole other post about “fest kids,” but for now I just want you to note the Spock haircuts, highwater black pants, and the fact that I can barely tell the boys from the girls in this video despite the fact that I lived with one of these kids for two years!
Are you still nostalgic for 90s hardcore?? Are you old enough to have lived through the bad old days of Spock rockers and Locust wizards???? Do you take it for granted that hot, slutty girls go to metalcore shows these days? Do you miss John Pettibone’s frosted tips?
This is what I remember girls looking like at 90s hardcore shows http://a4.l3-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/19/dcdc071fc6bc65766ffa321fbcadd014/l.jpg
Also if you’ve never heard them. Swear To God = long forgotten/broken up but you’re still moshin’ http://www.myspace.com/sweartogod/music
oh christ, that pic……. my dick just shriveled up and retracted several inches inside my body.
I do actually remember Swear To God, they were sweet!!
I miss everything about Undertow.
Remember how they had multiple “last shows”? I remember attending a few in 1995 or so.
Zoo sounds kinda hevy
Still prefer 90s hardcore over most hardcore
Everything in the 90s was good (Metal, Punk, Ska, etc…). Todays rendition of those genres are alright. Some still hold their weight some not.
And also to clarify, i was born in 87.
Why is the drummer in the first video not facing the audience? Ultimate stage fright, pee shy as fuck.
it was trendy at the time to play with your back to the audience
I’m really glad the only things I cared about in 1998 were Animorphs, the Simpsons and Magic cards.
super emo
I like that emo shit so yeah I’d love to be at some Mineral or Rentamerica gig in the ’90s
dude rentamerica is literally the most ridiculous band I have ever seen– I think I have posted the story before about them crying about the worms on the sidewalk?? fucking absurd.
Hahaha I’ve read the “The Worms!” story in several different places and it never fails to make me LOL
LOL. This is my worms story, probably tl;dr. Last April my buddy Mike was trying to hook up with this chick (not sure if he ever did, but he didn’t manage on that night). It’s raining hard. He leaves the bar first, I leave a little later with some dude I’m gonna bus with so we don’t both get stabbed. We catch up to him and the girl he’s with is drunkenly whining at us “not to step on the worms” which had crawled out on the sidewalk. So she’s collecting the worms and putting them back on the soil, probably not doing them a bit of good and possibly drowning a few, and yelling at us whenever we try to step forward. I was in stitches.
Worst part is that she was reasonably interesting to talk to earlier in the night. Goddamn it alcohol makes girls annoying.
yeah that stuff is hilarious. would’ve LOVED to be at that gig.
You do not know how bad I want to have been at the “worms” show.
prob as bad as i want to not have been there
As far as I’m concerned people who wish for the days of 90s hardcore are just pissed they aren’t getting laid in the current hardcore scene. Keep in mind I’m not getting laid in this current scene either BUT at least I’m not wishing i wasn’t getting laid in a worse scene
I have no fucking clue I’m so fucking drunk
I think you are on to something for sure
I have no fucking clue I’m so fucking drunk
Since getting laid at a HXC show from ’80 – ’99 was a statistic impossibility, you must be?!? (Dude/Dude tough guy sex to prove how not homo you are doesn’t count)
I don’t know this guy had no trouble getting laid at a hardcore show http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liWJYoILjEQ&feature=player_detailpage#t=82s
I assumed this was a video of Jesse Goldchains
Raeg +10
holy
shit
Hardcore is evolving. Always an elitist in every scene. Retro-elitists to be exact.
OMG @ that 4-Square video – srs.. there is an epic post somewhere on those kind of kids… on the one hand I hate them for being soooo blatantly juvenile in public, but props for not standing against the wall using No Fun Club Glower Power™ to intimidate everyone?!?
I was young, but totally in the DC area/music scene in the 90′s…
Sure, there was no fun club-syness… but all-in-all it was awesome. In the city, we had all the crust punk we-all-want-to-be-tragedy-core, Dischord done-with-emo-now-we-do-dance-punk-core, screamo spock-haircuts-n-white-belts core, powerviolence we-went-to-a-charles-bronson-show-and-now-we’re-all-gay-for-mark-mccoy-core and youth crew hanging-off-of-Better-Than-1000′s-dick core… and further away you had the twee pop wish-we-were-on-sarah-records-yall-core, indie we-wear-earth-tones-glasses-and-are-sad-core, metal we-live-in-maryland-so-the-only-metal-we-play-is-doom, and metalcore big-ass-jncos-and-cargo-shorts-will-be-cool-forever-right?-core.
I remember one weekend in ’97 or so seeing Crispus Attuks/Jerome’s Dream/Pg.99/Thursday one day, and then going to a church in the mountains and seeing Zao/Training For Utopia/Living Sacrifice, and then going back to the city to see Miner Threat (Minor threat covers in excavation gear, yall)/Los Crudos/Life’s Halt/Charles Bronson.
Those were the days [via-all in the families]
that genre list was impressively accurate, nice work!!
Miner Threat sounds like an amazing idea for a one-off thing. I’m guessing it got old fast, didn’t it?
Bless this post.
did you really just reference zanesville, oh? lolol. born and raised son!
oof, my condolences :(
ask your boy shawn about adornettos pizza. at least i’m not from cambridge :/
90′s hardcore chicks are the equivalent of todays “geek girls” that cosplay at anime cons and shit like that, average girls who aren’t necessarily that interested in the content but realize they can be belle of the ball due to lack of competition.
also see : college dude who majors in women’s studies.
BOOM
I was going to launch into some long-winded bullshit about the way I dressed in the 90s, and how it was just the fashion and not about getting lame hXc dick, but I’m not going to bother.
Being the spock-haired girl in the kickball vid who lived with Sarge, I will tell you that I didn’t get tons of dick because I was “Minor Threat Straight Edge” and didn’t have sex, but I got hella makeouts.
you were the #1 makeout slut for sure!
I also miss undertow…and himsa.
ugh i hate 90′s metalcore/hardcore. its so primitive and boring. im glad i didnt grow up in an era where riffs like the opening one were considered good.
Really don’t know what the hype about 90s hxc is. Just really primitive and raw sounding. I’d dig it more if it had better production. If I was a teen in the 90s I wouldve been into nu-metal and warped tour style punk(none of that crusty no fun club shit)
i wouldve listened to 95% skate punk if i grew up in the 90s. or “epifat” lol
you have the right idea, i wish i was as smart as you back then.
I don’t really see (other than the nerd females) what is so bad about what these guys are wearing.
I mean the dude has bleached hair and big jeans, is that REALLY funny?
I was born in 1985 so didn’t discover hardcore till around 2000, probably just as all these clothing trends died. But looking back on it, big deal they wore baggier jeans and (occasionally) tucked their shirts in? OMG
Are you going to make a post mocking every single clothing trend from the last 100 years?
Or have you just run out of ideas to the point of assuming anything you post is funny.
Obviously it’s not funny to YOU, but yes, it’s fucking hilarious to me and probably most other people who dressed like that at the time (which I did)- think of it as laughing at your jr high yearbook picture.
And I won’t mock every clothing trend from the last 100 years, just the ones from about 1989-present.
getting size 42 pants at the thrift store when u wear a size 30 and cutting the bottoms off for that frayed look.
Hahaha… I first saw that Undertow pic on Doublecross – first thought = ‘man, I had those exact pants’ Funny as shit.
This kid never wore jncos or those weird black and white airwalks.
I really do like this site, but sometimes it’s just like dude try harder
“the fact that I can barely tell the boys from the girls in this video despite the fact that I lived with one of these kids for two years!”
lolzzzz I lost my shit
Worst part of 90′s hardcore shows? Vegan treats, and the occasional skinny dude manning the PETA videos.
This will be covered…
You forgot; white kids in bandannas, unnecessary backpack wearing, vegan BAKESALES to raise money for some beta/P.C. cause, assholes arguing about the politics of drinking Snapple or some equally inane bullshit in the middle of a set, everyone having a soapbox, your androgynous girlfriend’s shitty zine, the 1/4 chance of some pretentious fuck having a sit-in in the middle of the crowd/unplugging mics and equipment, every band having the worst pawn shop gear ran through a metal zone pedal with a dying battery, being told how to think, Chokehold/Green Rage/Downcast/Birthright/Groundwork/GOOD CLEAN FUN.
Wait, fuck that whole list, Good Clean Fun is easily THE WORST part.
‘the politics of drinking snapple’
that line made me want to suicide myself, because I vividly remember people debating that very topic. fuck.
what on earth?
Fuck you, GCF rocks.
everything in this comment = PURE FUCKING TRUTH. except I still listen to and love Green Rage :(
aside from snapple and sit ins, this is pretty much exactly how i remember da core in the early-mid 00s after which i pretty much stopped going to shows, are you sure it isn’t still like this? and what is it with snapple and sit ins anyway?
Sargent D, everyone (nu-metal folks, ravers, etc.) rocked the jnco jeans. I used to have a pair myself.
Anyway, I have 2 questions for you:
1) How did gym shorts come about in the Hardcore scene?
2) How did some of the cute/slutty girls begin to go to Hardcore shows?
1. Honestly, I always assumed this was an offshoot of the 90′s Cabal basketball jerseys – mesh shorts just naturally fit?!? Also, Youth Crew introduced lots of ‘jock’ looks into HXC that took a looooong time to be rid of. I meant to feature Cabal jerseys in my Varsity font post – couldn’t find the catalog scans in time.
2. Hot/slutty girls have always gone to shows – in the ’80s they went to hair metal shows, in the ’90s they went to Dave Mathews shows, and now it just happens they go to metalcore/deathcore shows. This, BTW is why metal nerds hate each of these music – they are terrified to be around girls!! Once the girls leave, it’s ‘retro-cool’ to like that music again…
Oh, and mesh shorts are cheap and easy to print – so huge markeup/profit margin for your merch = always pushed!!
Too bad they’re fucking expensive. Really want those ADTR or Parkway Drive shorts. Grr…
“BTW is why metal nerds hate each of these music – they are terrified to be around girls!!”
Nice. When I see those hot girls around, it can be so overwhelming just to talk to them but once I circle pit/dance in the pit, it sure relieves the fear and hesitation and whatnot.
2) i remember this as having to do a lot with the overlap of the indie/emo scene with hc
absolutely agree x 1 zillion
Haha im only 21 but my uncles dressed like this back when i was like 6. I have pictures of me hanging out with them while theyre skating around in there super long shorts and nike shirts. They said that back in like 97 at the drive in were just a bunch of pussys from the west side that nobody liked. They were stuck up and had more of a following outside of el paso.
what was up with the whole Morrisey/Smiths worship back then? Friggin can’t stand that shit.
THANK YOU. I always hated that too.
Is that Lenny from Earthmover in the sidebar/thumbnail pic for this post?
ha! that’s Abnegation, but Lenny does look like Dave from Abnegation
the drummer has his back to to the crowd because it makes sence equiptment wise in a small room…
I can live with people getting gauges and tattoos but FROSTED TIPS ARE THE GHEYEST THING TO EVER DISGRACE THE EARTH!!!!!…
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