Although I’ll listen to just about anything, pop punk is probably my single favorite genre of music. If I look back at the bands who really mean something to me, it’s mostly shit like Blink 182, New Found Glory, The Vandals, Descendents, Forever The Sickest Kids, and other bands who have catchy, optimistic songs with giant hooks and fun lyrics about awesome shit. I mean, that’s what pop punk is all about, right?
Not so much, according to the new wave of TR00 POP PUNK bands who combine the self-righteousness of tr00 punx with the beta cry-babyness of pop punk and the tuneless vocals and self-pity of 90s basement emo. Sounds like a terrible combo, but tr00 pop punk is blowing up– take a look at the dashboard of your average 18 year-old Tumblrslut and her boyfriend and you’ll see nothing but reblogs of Transit colored vinyl, Title Fight hoodies, and 5 zillion live photos of sweaty band dudes looking very passionate and meaningful.
Need I say more?
From what I can tell, tr00 pop punk is where kids go when they grow out of Disneypunk (FTSK, All Time Low, The Maine) and easycore. It’s basically the same when you turn 18, go away to college, and adopt a new persona that says “I’M NOT A BABY ANYMORE, I R SRS YOUNG ADULT NOW. I DONT LIKE THAT LITTLE BABY STUFF ANYMORE!!” Only that’s not entirely true, because you are still a teenager, and what middle class teenager doesn’t like pop punk? Tr00 pop punk is basically a way for them to have their cake and eat it too. They can listen to pop punk, but still show everybody how grown-up and serious they are.
Typical tr00 pop punk fan (probably a freshman at an expensive liberal arts school, majoring in English)
It’s pretty easy to identify a tr00 pop punk band:
- From somewhere relatively affluent, yet close to a big city- the Bay Area and New Jersey seem to be hotbeds of tr00 pop punx. In those places, life is easy, and when life is easy it can be boring. What better way to deal with the boredom than pick up your guitar and record a song on your Macbook about how you “feel so alone” and “just want to find out who you really are”?
- Take “pop punk” very seriously (eg Man Overboard’s “DEFEND POP PUNK” shirts). This will seem funny to older people, because back in the day there was no such thing as pop punk with credibility, but times have changed, as you can tell by the fact that people don’t hate New Found Glory and Blink-182 anymore.
- Namedrop lots of older bands (who usually weren’t very good) and/or current hardcore bands. Both of these things are important tools in constructing their image of “guys who really know their roots.”
- Are melodic, but not in a fun, catchy way- more like a melancholy, sad “my pussy hurts and I’m going to play my guitar to distract me from the pain” kind of way. Also, the singers are really bad, with tuneless “braying donkey who was trained to sing ‘Happy Birthday’” sound ala Fugazi.
Some examples:
The Story So Far
Note the Bridge 9 and Devo shirts, as well as the dude in the Walnut Creek shirt. When you are talking about bored, overly-educated, upper middle class white people, you really can’t think of a better example than Walnut Creek (see also nearby Orinda, home of Fight Fair and Set Your Goals).
Title Fight
Strong Ian MacKaye/braying donkey vocals. Not sure what the concept for this video was– maybe something like this? Guy #1: “My parents are going to Turks & Caicos for the weekend, we should have one of those videos where there’s a giant house party, and we’re playing! Guy #2: “No way, my mom would kill me if we messed up the mantle in the living room! I’ll just stand in front of the grandfather clock in the foyer and lip synch.”
Transit
Contrast the 4.5/10 at :15 in this video with the hot sluts in the All Time Low “Weightless” video… if this is the best video girl your “pop punk” band could find, you’re doing it wrong.
Man Overboard
A boring, sappy, acoustic song named after a Jawbreaker album from 1995?? Now that’s what I call TR00 POP PUNK!
What do you think of TR00 POP PUNX?? Did you go through a phase where you turned your back on all the “baby stuff” you liked in high school to show everybody you had become a SRS YOUNG ADULT? Is tr00 pop punk the new IKEACORE??
I was never really embarassed by anything I listened to in highschool or earlier, even the bands I now hate on an ideological level (Dead Kennedys); I still think are pretty good musically even if they are overrated. Hell, I’ve never even been embaressed to admit to listening to Rachel Stamp when I was 13/14 and still think a lot of their material sounded decent. What is funny to me is that I knew people who listened to bands that I made fun of, that would years later abandon those bands or deny having ever liked them.
someone really needs to do a post about how fucking retarded the Dead Kennedys are/were- unbearable
Hey now. Some people really love Dead Kennedys. Like me. I apologize for nothing.
I am with Austin on this one. DK were the band that got me into punk.
I’m thirding the love for DK, but I WILL blame them for Propaghandi. I mean, one unbearably political band begets another.
+1
I can’t listen to 3 seconds of DK
In the videos above nobody is wearing well-fitting clothing.
Is this part of troo-punk?
The Dead Kennedys shit all over these bands that’s for sure.
yah classics like “Frankenchrist” have really stood the test of time
Also, all this “true pop punk” sucks; if they really want to be true they’d sound more like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jLxdZpGcZ8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32sLLXTGQDg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQ2ZBuZrRG8
It probably will become a scene trend because everyone in the “scene” is a slackjawed retard (video of True Pop Punk Fans discussing the issues that plague them: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZU8iSGsUFHA .
oh god that last video, fucking priceless!!
I go to school with people like that. Rage/10
“They would make me feel hurtful” Yeah there’s reason you get called a retard.
There are about a million of these mother fuckers in my city going off of your descriptions, and they’re usually very annoying.
I have been listening to Hold Tight! recently. I don’t know how true they are. They are on http://www.deathtofalsehoperecords.com which have all of their records for free DL.
I for one really like this new trend of music. The kids that are fans of bands like The Wonder Years, Title Fight, etc. can be pretty annoying, but honestly I’d take them over easycore kids any day. Kids that listen to primarily FYS, Set Your Goals and ADTR usually have no idea about any music outside of the easycore scene, but are still outspoken about the “underground shit” they listen too. It just seems to me that the kids that are into the “real” poppunk as you say are a lot more open-minded about the music they listen too (ie they’ll be less likely to write off music that easycore kids would label as shitty or talentless). I used to think that shit like NFG and Blink were gay, until I started seeing them be namedropped by all my favorite “real” bands, and it made me double back and give them a second chance.
GFTO
Lololol <3
>Getting namedropped by my favorite bands
Why would your opinion change by what people say? Fucking plebe. And, The Wonder Years are too poppy, and should be consider on the same level as ADTR, Set Your Goals etc..
The Title Fight video just has to do with superstitions, hence the black umbrella in side etc.. But, is till pretty lulzy.
Anyways, Hold Tight! is a good fucking band. I back those dudes hard, and are really really nice dudes. Alex does some booking up in RVA and tries his hardest to get shows for everyone who passes through. He got me into a an 18+ show that was down here in Florida since I am 17.
However, this blog post made my day. <3
Never turned my back into the stuff that i got into in middleschool and highschool, I’m in my second year of college and i still love the same stuff, i still love skramz, shoegaze, ‘indie rock’, fakescreamo, hardcore, pop-punk, hip-hop, metal and ska :B! never got into deathc0r3 or scenegrind like teapartyschoolmassacre or wecamewithbrokenteeth always thought that sort of stuff was pretty boring and ridiculous.
as far as being the new Ikeacore, im not sure what Ikeacore is supposed to mean besides that is how Sergeant D calls the music that Hot Water Music makes…
got NOTHING on Ikeacore. Fucking disgusts me just to read a comparison like that.
I think most of these bands are into HWM.
title fight is probably the best out of all these new tr00 pop punk bands.
Isn’t this the same as how metal nerds used to hate on deathcore back in 2005-2008 and how theres a sub branch of deathcore that focuses on fret board wanking, odd time singatures and adopting a more “troo metal” sound ala JFAC,All Shall Perish and the Red Chord? The same bands these metal nerds jock on because its “like different from that Suiside Silence shit cuz it haz blast beats and technical shit in it so its okay to listen to them because its not like normal deathcore!!”
BOOM, THIS x 1 ZILLION
That’s deathcore people becoming TROO METAL not the other way around.
So its okay to hate on bands when they are in their “generic deathcore” phase but when they turn 180 and produce ” generic tech death metal/ core” its okay for everyone to jock on them? Isn’t it like the dudes from 1998 who hated Blink and NFG but in 2011 start claiming them as pioneers and successful in bringing the pop punk sound to the mainstream just because everyone else from that era starts jocking hard and reppin them un ironically ?
they will all be jocking Suiside Silence and Attack Attack in 15 years. just wait and you will get the last laugh.
I’m going to have to order my WE WILL NEVER SLEEP CAUSE SLEEP IS FOR THE WEAK BMTH xxs shirt and rep them now so I can tell kids in 2025 that I’ve been listening to BMTH before they were even “deathcore pioneers” *hipster mode on*
you are doing it right!
This might be the one thing to look forward to about getting old!
in 2020 – “ATTACK ATTACK IS TR00 DANC3C0R3″
I dunno, the Red Chord was around for more than a minute and screamo kids used to jock their shit. I think they’ve had one foot in the scene for a long time.
But yeah super tired of this, and also Meshuggah-jockers (with the exception of TAS). “An old guy made fun of us! Let’s play a bunch of solos and/or make our guitarists buy 8-strings and play out of time!”
Those “troo metal” fans are just douchelords who think one form of music or art is way cooler/better/harder and will jock even the most terrible bands as long as they uphold the cornerstones of metalhead self-identification. They are the musical equivalent of those craigslist ads that say “straight dude looking to suck ur dick, no fags”.
I know so many people who are into this faggotry.
like a bit of the music, but most if just seems like uncatchy pop-punk with bad vocals and a cover with an animal or a big open landscape or a park or some shit like that…. What I really hate though is the fans who are a bunch of idiotic betas busy buying vinyls and has a blog about coffee or some shit… then they go and see crap like teenage bottlerocket or whatever and mix it up with dadpunk “yeah me and me my bros went to see the gaslight anthem fuck their rockstar attitudes frank turner was the support and we hung out with him after the show and he said copenhagen was a great city so now hes our favortie act yibbayabba”
an important part about the genre is too complain about how metal is dumb
It’s really funny when people with “sophisticated” taste in music try to explain to me why metal is dumb without saying it out right because they assume I’m some sort of simpleton for enjoying that stuff. I usually just end up saying “so metal is for retards?” and they get really defensive and back track.
I just saw this comment, fucking a+++! i am laying in bed literally loling while my azn rolls her chinky eyes at me. Me: “lololol a blog about coffee!!” her: “im trying to relax, i dont want to hear about that faggoty bullshit.”
glad ur feelin it bro
I love title fight and the wonder years. Would Small Brown Bike be considered Ikea-core.
SBB were one of those older Dr Strange bands, right?? I feel like that kinda falls under its own weird little umbrella (next to Cruz bands)- not quite ikeacore, but not terribly far off either. Thoughts??
most of small brown bike’s records are on No Idea, they’re closer to HWM than any kind of cruz or dr. strange pop punk bands.
Only one of these bands I can really get into is Fireworks, Gospel is my favorite album this year by far, great stuff. These aren’t bad bands really, Transit and Story So far are both solid in my eyes, but most of it is just so similar. Its less ‘true pop-punk’ and more ‘rehashed older pop-punk’. Logical step for the scene to take, a similar trend should crop up when crabcore/glamcore has run its course.
“DEFEND GLAMCORE” * puts on vintage Blessed By A Broken Heart shirt *
Thank you for writing about this. Man Overboard is sofucking lame, I saw them at Bamboozle and all I could think was how they were a bunch of dorks and all these girls were freaking out and I felt like I was at a Dashboard concert a la 2000z. Same sentiment for the Wonder Years, if a guy likes that band its a deal breaker because I know he surely has no balls
god, thank you so much for saying this
Here in germany many many hxc-guys (yes, over 20!) are really into man overboard and that shit, so not only in good ol’ america
double-post
the next big retro-thing:
hairmetal
just wait for it…
Already been done by BBABH, BVB, and Escape the Fate.
^yup. Lot of bands are taking on hair metal images and writing boring albums with maybe one song that could be on the radio. Go Falling in Reverse, Asking Alexandria, Drugs, and plenty more too.
I know you have brought it up before but will mention again that 75% of these bands will be playing indie/alt rock within 3-4 years. AL4W just came out yesterday and said that their new album is more rock than pop punk and they have been at it for just about as long as these bands.
Also worth mentioning that most of these kids are the same fans of Defeater hardcore and artsy-screamo La Dispute style bands. So there is that.
around these parts, we call those kids “fags”
This site always makes me guilty for the stuff I like. First I can’t listen to my artsy rap and now my old pop punk. But yeah this is kinda funny. I should make a shirt that says “death to false crabcore” so I can show kids in 10 years how credible I am. Then again I don’t see any hair metal or nu metal bands suddenly gaining credibility so you never know.
I always see people backing Mudvayne, also J-Mann from Mushroomhead was in Integrity at one point and b9 kids always bring that up, so YOU NEVER KNOW
J-Mann? Oh, you mean Jason Popson, the guy who is a bartender at Peabody’s in Cleveland. He made me a vodka & soda when I saw Mychildren Mybride there with Kolgate.
The one small mercy from this horrible trend is that the guys in these bands are such fgtz that they’ll never have the balls to make the leap up to being truly popular by injecting that little extra commercial spin they need. Instead they’ll just fade away and focus on their ‘serious, heartfelt’ acoustic side project or some shit.
I don’t think bmth and attack attack will ever be respected in the TR00 METAL crowd (they are sort of this generation’s limp bizkit or poison) but yeah it’s quite possible that stuff like Suiside Silence will. But anyway Sarge, I don’t get it, what is ‘ikeacore’? Explain plz
I think that SS and white chapel will definitely be looked back upon as being underrated and awesome. After all, SS is basically just corpse grinder era cannibal corpse but with breakdowns to make the songs actually interesting.
“SS is basically just corpse grinder era cannibal corpse but with breakdowns to make the songs actually interesting”
bingo
I guess I don’t really get what’s wrong with these bands? I have been listening to pop-punk since ’98 and love this? do you actually hate the bands or just the trend?
well personally i find their music boring as fuck (not very catchy, beta/whiny lyrics, horrible singers). and there’s definitely a bit of a superiority complex in a lot of them “WE’RE *REAL* POP PUNK, NOT LIKE THAT TRENDY SHIT FOR TEENAGERS WHO SHOP AT THE MALL!!!”
Fair enough but Title Fight is a really damn good band and they aren’t even into the “defend pop punk” thing, they just get lumped in with it. Here’s the thing though, I see inherent contradictions in your arguments:
1) New Found Glory is actually heading a tour called “Defend Pop Punk” tour, so obviously the trend isn’t just young people, it’s actually one of the bands you really like too. Last time I saw NFG the average age was 26-28
2) You’re kind of being a whiny oldz, these kids are just having fun, but you hate whiny oldx I thought
3) Only fags listen to the wonder yrs? really? have you listened to / read NFG lyrics recently?? they are just as faggy. Either way, both great bands IMHO
i was painfully aware of these points while writing this post haha, and you are definitely right to bring them up. I tried not to be TOO negative, or at least have fun with it- I definitely dont want to come off like a total oldfag, so if I did then I deserve to be mocked for it!
Get a load of this oldfag, go listen to your Nothing Good Can Stay vinyl pops.
I actually kind of liked that Title Fight song, but that “braying donkey” comment was right on the money.
I definitely like them the best out of all these bands– that song is pretty solid
I realized I am becoming an old (25) after reading this article. The Lawrence Arms did this ten years ago better than any of these bands. I’d rather just lift weights and mosh anyway…
Does Fireworks qualify as this BS? I grew up with a lot of those kids, moshing to ignorant hardcore in the Detroit area. I definitely think they are more melodic and NFG sounding than these raspy, shouters and it looks like they have WAY more fun.
Pass judgement please…
I saw that tumblr slut had their name in her dashboard or whatever, that’s why i ask.
Sound wise, no. They are very similar to New Found Glory as you’ve said.
Fanbase wise, yes. Every single “Tr00 Pop Punk” person I know loves Fireworks, and they generally seem to tour with bands put in with “Tr00 Pop Punk”.
The Title Fight song was alright. I never could get into pop punk though. It’s cool every now and then, but I’d rather just listen to hardcore or rap.
I could see the hipster-hardcore types jizzing all over this though.
I feel bad now cause The Wonder Years has over 1000 plays on my last.fm and Man Overboard is close. They both make catchy music and The Wonder Years new album is pretty good.
dont be ashamed dude, you like what you like!
It doesn’t help I listened to Wonder Years like 200+ times in a week. This coming from a person who straight up hated The Upsides.
Thank you for posting this!!! This is so true. Only Tr00 pop punk I like is Fireworks everything else like Wonder Years, Man Overboard, and This Time Next Year just bores me. Not heavy enough like Easycore or catchy enough like Blink 182, NFG, or Sum 41. I don’t know if I’ll be going to the pop punk’s not dead tour cuz I only like NFG and Set Your Goals, everybody else just bores me and will attract a giant no fun club. Ironic that the no fun club hipster hxc crowd likes this because after all isn’t pop-punk supposed to be “fun” music that you put on as a breather between metal and hardcore records or listen to on a sunny day with your friends(that’s what I do anyways). Really wish there would be a pop punk resurgence that sounded like Sum 41 instead of pretentious d.i.y 90s emo. Also ironic about these tr00 pop punk kids is that they would’ve hated NFG and Blink 182 if they were around in 2001 and would be dick riding Saves The Day, The Ramones, and Lifetime instead
Pure truth!
I own (on vinyl, of course) records from The Story So Far and Title Fight. I am forever a member of the No Fun Club, so the ethos of these bands appeals to me. I’ll admit lyrics are a bit trite, but I probably wouldn’t have thought as much 20 years ago. You’ll definitely want to include Good Luck in this genre as well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIB6gGdGHyk
Also, you should give the No Fun Club credit for listening to more fun music like blink or NFG than they would have 10 years ago. You’d also be surprised how many of these guys do like ADTR and modern easy/fun-core stuff.
And lastly, the drummer of man overboard said the defend pop punk shirts were just a fun play off most precious blood shirts. The joke is kind of on the 17 year old troo-pop-punkers that take it seriously. The bands and older bands line NFG are just having fun with it.
Haha which comment?
my favorite newer pop punk band:
http://directhit.bandcamp.com/album/domesplitter
fucking direct hit is so fucking good.
I love these bands, but excellent points. These kids are so dumb, and a year ago ADTR was their favorite band.
I definitely get that superiority complex coming, same kids who now like “real” hardcore like defeater, touche amore etc( i like those bands too)
You kids sure have weird problems these days.
one more lulzy fact is, that the same music is played for years under the genrename “indieemo” by bands like snowing, algernon cadwallader, footnotes, joyce manor, monument, boys & sex, summer vacation, … but with less whiny lyrics. and nobody cares about it.
Typical tr00 pop punk fan (probably a freshman at an expensive liberal arts school, majoring in English)
AKA unemployable and not worried about it!
Leave it up to lame ex-teens/hipsters to sap the fun out of a musical genre designed to be fun…
like andrew said , i think the “defend” shirts are a joke.. anyone who would seriously refer to anything as “troo”, oof.. cringe.
alternately, this kind of music has been labeled as “orgcore” by Sarge’s favorite site, yourscenesucks. check out the entry on the orgcore punker. it’s a couple years out of date i guess but what this post is about is just younger versions of that guy.
i don’t even think of this kind of music as “pop punk” per se, since i would say it comes more from a background of bands like Lifetime, Jawbreaker, Hot Water Music, Kid Dynamite, Dillinger 4, and so on. all of those bands are all far more rooted more in hardcore, melodic hardcore and DC-style emo etc etc rather than 90s pop punk. hence the “no fun club” and 90s DIY style leanings. it’s basically just the new version of one of the facets of 90s “emo”. y’all are acting like these bands started out playing NOFX/blink 182 fart rock and then suddenly got all serious and political a year into their bands existence, when i would argue that generally these bands are in a totally different little genre from bands like New Found Glory, ADTR, Fight Fair, Me Vs Hero, etc. i guess those bands are called “easycore” by some people? stuff played by sweet bros that sounds like blink 182 jams with mosh parts.
anyway, since i love all the above mentioned “orgcore” influences like HWM, i am super into Hold Tight!, New Creases, RVIVR, Timeshares, Big Kids.. any new bands in that vein are awesome, but i guess i’m guilty of liking the “troo pop punk” for the exact reason mentioned, because it’s more serious and not as goofy.
Awesome and accurate comment!
Also, “nofx/blink 182 fart rock” is officially my favorite genre
thanks… unfortunately i can’t claim authorship for “fart rock”.. all credit for that goes to anthony “pops” pappalardo, author of Radio Silence. he refers to all those kind of mid 90s pop punk bands as either “fart rock” or “burrito rock” (with the descendents being cited as kind of the spiritual predecessors for the overall style). i agree, but as a huge fan of the ‘Dents rule, i don’t think they sound that much like Blink.. never been a Blink fan.
Wow just the fact that smiling Beardo exists in the real world makes me want to take my own life.
“Take “pop punk” very seriously (eg Man Overboard’s “DEFEND POP PUNK” shirts). This will seem funny to older people, because back in the day there was no such thing as pop punk with credibility, but times have changed, as you can tell by the fact that people don’t hate New Found Glory and Blink-182 anymore.”
amen.
wtf happened to make blink and nfg not hated anymore? when i was a little 12 year old going from blink/nfg to stuff like thursday/gj all those kids called me a fag for liking blink and nfg still.
either way this nu pop punk stuff sucks. did you read that thing about some band refusing to play a show because the promoters were using the word fag or something?
“either way this nu pop punk stuff sucks. did you read that thing about some band refusing to play a show because the promoters were using the word fag or something?”
LOL that sounds hilarious! i wanna read more on this
We Fight For What We Believe
We would like to apologize for anyone who came out to the Eagles Lodge in Wichita, KS last night to see us play. We are terribly sorry we were not able to perform.
When we showed up to load in, the promoter and soundguy for the show were having a very loud, anti-gay conversation that we found both hurtful and offensive. When we confronted them about what they were saying, we were aggressively told to keep our opinions to ourselves (something we would have happily done, had we not had theirs shoved down our throats simply by being in the same room while this was going on). The situation quickly got very tense and it became clear that our pro-gay beliefs were not welcome.
We had a discussion amongst the band in the parking lot and decided that, given the spirit of our band, we could not possibly play the show. We are proudly pro-gay rights, we believe whole heartedly in equality and love, we cringe every time we hear someone say ‘gay’ in a derogatory context or call someone a ‘faggot,’ and we’ve spent enough time on stage talking about those things that to ignore the situation and perform would have been hypocritical. We had no choice but to put our money where our mouth was and boycott the show.
I confronted the promoter one last time and told him that we were a proudly pro-gay band and if the conversation earlier was truly how he and the soundguy felt, we were not comfortable performing. He said “okay” and walked away, so that was that. We loaded out and drove away.
We know that this whole situation let some people down, and we would like to apologize and assure them that we felt let down as well.
IF YOU HATE GAY PEOPLE, PLEASE DON’T BOOK OUR BAND.
Thank you,
Reed
We Are The Union
Good to know they’ll spite their fans just because assholes exist in their proximity. I’m sure the gays appreciate it!
man im really not down with this whole new tr00 pop punk scene. its not only that im not into the music/bands that it produces, but alot of the fans are elitist dickheads who hate on the “disneypunk” and “easycore” stuff. kinda like how the tr00 metalheads hate on deathcore and metalcore and whatnot.
i <3 "disneypunk" and "easycore", this new tr00 pop punk stuff, eh not so much. oh, and you couldve mentioned how the wonder years are actually the perfect example of this transition. cause their early stuff was actually fun loving easycore, then they transitioned into the more serious "tr00" pop punk stuff later.
i think tr00 pop punk is the new ikeacore for the younger generation (teens). ikeacore for older people (21+) is like orgcore (dear landlord, umm cant think of any other examples now cause i dislike that stuff haha, but bands that are popular on punknews.org).
Oh christ, fuck English majors.
I was touring colleges, and one of the tour guides was majoring in that and dance. ugh.
whats interesting is all the bands that these kinda kids love, are all being featured/hyped in ap magazine. which would make sense cause alot of these kids are ex scene kids who would probably read that kinda stuff.
itll pass it was all about dub step a few months ago.
I really dig it. I think this is the new kids take on Gainesville/No Idea of the nineties. & I don’t think the singer from Title Fight sounds like Ian MacKaye, I think he sounds like the dude from Small Brown Bike. I’m sure all of these bands list Hot Water Music as an influence.
exactly why this subgenre = raeg/10 for me
At an H20 show, the singer of Man Overboard (who opened) couldn’t offer up his services to help defend pop punk, so when he started chugging those breakdowns, it was like a Bat-Signal to Pgh beatdown hardcore-lookin dudes (sry Sergeant D) to beat down vntrve kvlt pop punk fans back into their mother’s wombs. In seconds, the breakdown was over, as the shockwave sent waves of beaten skinny kids crying, and a venue full of full-sleeved old hxc dudes trying to hold back the laughter.
Wouldn’t a name like “Adult comtemporary pop punk”, better suit this faggotry?
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Title Fight= Bad Saves The Day worship band, wrote one EP with some decently catchy songs then took an eternity to put out a few full lengths that weren’t close to worth the wait.
The Wonder Years= Bad band in general with horrible lyrics that people find “they relate to”, because most people under 21-22 are “fucking retarded”
Man Overboard= See above
Transit= band that’s probably lumped in with these assholes because it’s way easier to take money from dumbasses. Also the video you used from these guys is about 4-5 years old when these kids where like 15-16. Love to see videos of whoever wrote this when they were 15, I bet they were the coolest.
Outside of these three the bands in my opinion actually get worse. Which is sad. Bands like The Dangerous Summer and Daytrader blow TWY out of the water, but of course actual quality of ability in music has nothing to do with success.
Love to see videos of whoever wrote this when they were 15, I bet they were the coolest
u ‘really get what this blog is all about’ brah. We were the coolest motherfuckers on earth in 10th grade, u jelly???
Yeah, I attempted to read your whole “explanation” of this blog, but what I took from it was that you were basically trying to justify having a website that spews negativity. When people then feel differently from you they simply “don’t get it”.
If you are over the age of 22 and still writing nonsense like this consistently, I worry you are in fact the one who does not “get it”.
When a grown man makes fun of someone like Justin Beiber he is in fact the fool because he is taking time from his day to hate something that is by no means intended for him.
If the truth of the matter is you have a website dedicated to making fun of things you like..that doesn’t seem conducive in anyway with HELPING those involved in the things that you like. If you actually really like certain bands, posting how horrendous they are will only influence people NOT to listen to them because they clearly “don’t get” that you’re hating things ironically for the sake of getting peoples attention.
So yeah. If you actually like things try raising them up instead of tearing them down. If you hate them, then show some sack and just hate things.
Make a blog that is 100% positive and let me know how many people give a shit about it
Just posting gives them exposure, and if people happen to read that instantly agree with everything they read and never listen to music you might have a point. You really just need to lighten up bro.
You talk shit about these bands that actually play music well, and aren’t even “pop punk”, title fight is hardcore, first of all. And you say bands like all time low and forever the sickest kids are good? Those are all faggot scene kids who grew up in rich suburban homes, not bands like TF or transit who grew up in basments playing in hardcore bands. Your a real dipshit saying they can’t sing either, because the bands you consider “pop punk” use auto tune, sampled beats, and have nothing punk about them. Stupid ass little kids, I swear lol
You act like they’re so different.
lol stupid ass little kids! Agreed! We need awesome hxc dudes like you who were born in the 90′s to tell everyone what tr00 punk really is. All these stupid ass little kids don’t know what they’re talking about, especially that little bitch kid “Sergeant D”.
Have you even listened to the bands? No you’re busy being a faggot kid who likes black veil brides, dinosaurs and Pokemon. You probably think hardcore is the devil wears prada. These bands play their instruments, sing without autotune, and play because they like music, not because the radio will play them because all the little girls like them.
Yeah we’re all faggots who love dinosaurs and pokemon and TDWP and BVB.
Nail = hit on the fucking head.
Read this, dipshit :
http://www.stuffyouwillhate.com/2012/01/do-you-really-get-what-this-site-is-all-about/
Nice assumptions bro, tho I do love dinosaurs and pokemon. First time I saw All Time Low was in a little Coffee Shop, and it was awesome. Do they suck because it was above ground? Title Fight is opening for ADTR and Rise Against, supported mainly by a large group of entitled tumblr girls. Go ahead, keep pretending like you know why people make music, and how better you think you are because the bands you like just like to jock the 90′s instead of playing music for fun.
i think i fell in love with you
honestly, i think your right about some of the things you said about troo poppunk kids, theyre kind of annoying but the music they liten to is descent. but the best poppunk band is the descendents, end of discussion
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It’s weird reading this article now that tr00bonic plague is a thing. I srsly saw Man Overboard and The Ghost Inside, and Transit TOGETHER before the plague struck :S (I wonder if that was a pivotal movement in tr00 history) The headliner was Senses Fail… which reminds me, does anyone feel like Silverstein and Senses Fail shed their mid00′score coat to be somewhat srs and tr00?
i know plenty of friends who like the story so far but yet don’t like any other pop-punk bands at all. pisses me off so much they are listening to a band that is so fucking overrated but can’t see how fucking awesome saves the day, blink 182, NFG were/are. on the subject of modern pop-punk, yeah a lot about it is annoying and the fanbase are irritating but there is some good stuff out there. fireworks, a loss for words, this time next year, handguns, i call fives, you vandal, all play up-beat pop-punk that is just fun to blast out to. that is why i love going to pop-punk shows tbh because they are so much fun.
You all need to lighten up,c’mon people!Pop-punk’s supposed to be fun,I think we all can agree that it doesn’t matter,how you get to a certain point in your musical evolution as long as you keep progressing and moving forward.I’m 24 and my gateway bands were blink-182,sum-41,the offspring all that shit that was on mtv,but it introduced me to that kind of music.It may not the best of this genre,but those guys kept name dropping screeching weasel,descendents.etc,and if they helped introduce kids to these bands so be it.about the so called “tr00 pop-punk” at least it’s not all time low(blow),simple plan,good charlotte and all that mallcore crap.
All Time Low >>>>>>>> every tr00 pop punk band
I always like taking a step back and seeing where music has come in recent years.
To be honest, I’m a big fan of Transit and Title Fight (I never really got into the others) mostly because I got bored of disneycore. When I was 17 in 2010 they seemed like a godsend compared to what I had listened to before. But all this stuff about banks like Transit and Title Fight (and all the other bands mentioned) being ACTUAL or TRUE pop-punk is ridiculous, and all the kids who are really intense and into that scene who posit that TF, Transit, etc. are “true” are misguided. There’s nothing true or “revival-y” about that category. In fact it’s a completely new transition in the whole umbrella of modern “punk” music, kind of like a breath of fresh air. If you asked any of these tr00 kids about which old bands tr00 pop-punk bands pay homage to, they wouldn’t know what to say, or they’d be wrong. Bands like Jawbreaker, Lifetime, Hey Mercedes, Elliott, and Mineral (90s basement emo bands with a tinge of heaviness induced by punk and hardcore) crafted the serious and genuine “emo-punk” scene of the 90s. Quite frankly, I find it silly to compare Man Overboard to any of the aforementioned bands at all because I find Man Overboard to be just as cliche and whiny as disneycore bands, but with a little more flannel, khakis, shorter hair, and less lyricism about partying. To be honest, melodic hardcore bands (such gold, tssf, crucial dudes etc.) who recycle the same minor threat drum beat and power chord progressions (with a few sassy chords in their to jazz up the whole affair) are boring as hell. I’m beginning to lose interest in Transit as well because they seem to have taken a whole different approach recently with their music which involves a lot more odd popness, but the same serious lyrics and meaning, which comes off as a very odd combination. Title Fight is still one of my favorites, and honestly I can’t say why. They’re just fucking great.
This article sucks. I like all of these bands, and this entire punk scene that you’re describing.
Here’s the problem, all of your arguments are image based and miss the point, which is the MUSIC!
You’re putting them down fro where they’re from and what they wear, instead of listening to the music. These bands are simply designing a new, more aggressive pop-punk sound with a higher premium on musicianship.
Don’t get me wrong, I still love blink, new found and all the bands that paved the way for these guys. But when you sit here and tell me that I should listen to All Time Low instead of Transit, because they have hotter girls in their videos… I’m sorry, but I’m going to consider you an idiot.
I have to agree with KOL. you’re missing the point its all about the music. I’m 24 and I can relate to a lot of this new so called troo pop punk. When are we finally going to stop labeling crap everything around now has so many influences its hard to even put things into genres.Its not about the look, just stick to the music. how many of us can say we can pull off songs like this making music is hard and if you can be loved for making the music you make, so be it. glad that you admitted to loving the story so far in a different blog. idk I guess what im trying to say is people change opinions change maybe there was a little to much hate in this blog I try not to pay attention to this stuff but sometimes you just run into it. enjoy what you enjoy I hate to say you only live once… but lol sorry not sorry