Freftd asks: has hardcore always been the preserve of the middle class 16 – 24 white male? or is that a recent thing? im from the uk so maybe its different because it certainly seems to be like this now, outside of the beatdown tuffguy scene anyway.
For some reason, there’s always been this notion that hardcore is some kind of enclave of privileged white males who either tacitly or actively oppress and exclude OTWs, homos, women and other minorities. I am not sure how this got started, because I think it’s pretty much complete bullshit.
I can’t speak to the Euro scene, but in my experience most hardcore kids I know grew up like me: poor-ish, pissed off, fucked up outcasts and crazy people. Sure, there are some rich kids here and there (especially in places like Orange County), but I think they are the exception to the rule. Also, most of them don’t tend to stick around long: they have better things to do with their lives than dedicate them to hardcore, so it’s usually just a phase for them. And just because someone’s parents have some money in the bank doesn’t mean their life is perfect. Everybody has problems, and I think it’s fucking ignorant and gay to look down on someone because they come from a wealthy family. Are you only allowed to participate in hardcore if you’ve earned your “I haz a hard life” merit badge?? Oh, and nobody who has actually been poor thinks there is anything cool about it.
MY GOD THESE RICH WHITE PUSSIES
To me it’s really not about whether you grew up rich, poor or middle class, it’s about whether you are a chill person who is cool to be around, and that really has nothing to do with your socioeconomic status. For example, I have no idea whether the guys in The Wonder Years grew up with money or not, but I do I know they are whiny pussies with no heart who get butthurt and cry about how hard college is. Chances are that they are indeed middle-class white pussies, but the point is that it’s not about how much money you do or don’t have, it’s about whether you’re a cool person.
Finally, in many parts of the US the hardcore scene is pretty diverse. Go to a hardcore show in Southern California or New Mexico and you will see there’s no shortage of brown people in the scene there- see my Metal Sucks post “ARE LATINOS BORN 2 MOSH???” for more thoughts on this. There are also tons of gay people in hardcore, but nobody really gives a fuck so you don’t hear them talking about it all the time.
- Liberal fggts think all hardcore kids are rich white people
- In reality, hardcore is mostly for fuckups and losers
- There are some rich kids, but there is nothing wrong with being rich
- The real problem is weak pussies, not rich people
Wat u think??? Is hardcore for rich white pussies, poor white trash, Latin kids in snapbacks, or is it a big melting pot? Why are people obsessed with trying to prove that hardcore kids are rich jocks???