Freftd asks: What do you think of bands like the dropkick murphy’s flogging molly etc?? i know folk is gross but what if it is genuine folk like the dubliners or folk/rock like the pogues?? is irish folk music more valid because it revolves around getting drunk?? also why are americans obsessed with being irish because they have about 1 irish cousin or some irish ancestry and back it up with a shamrock tattoo. is that like an earlier version of white people with non english tattoos???
I’m glad you asked, because I’ve been meaning to address this topic for a while. Basically, I think “white ethnicity” is the gayest fucking thing on earth, which makes shitty ‘punk’ bands based on some Americans’ fantasies of being working-class Irish people a giant swirling galaxy of gayness. And let me add that although my father is from Norway and my mom is American, I have the most Irish name of all time (basically along the lines of Seamus McGillicutty) so I know a thing or two about fake Irish people (because I am one).
My issue with white ethnicity is the same reason I get so irritated by people who are obsessed with travel, have quirky alternative weddings, and other enraging white foolishness. You see, the reason why sheltered whites make a huge deal out of their faux-ethnicity is because they are boring people who have never done anything interesting and accordingly feel like their lives are hollow and meaningless.
This aznbro knows what’s up with ‘white ethnicity’- “Bitch, you’re three flavors of vanilla, am I supposed to know?”
This is hard for them to handle, since whites all have a deep need to feel like special snowflakes, so when they realize that they are actually not so special they hate themselves. And I can’t blame them, they are disgusting, weak people who probably should hate themselves. In their desperate search to find specialness, they latch onto some fragment of their supposed ethnicity and blow it out of proportion (with embarrassing results). You see, it’s much easier to make yourself sound exotic and worldly by saying shit like “I’m 1/8 Cherokee, that’s where I get my tenacity!!” than actually doing something meaningful.
If you…
- have ‘traditional instruments’ in your band
- talk about what ‘clan’ your ‘ancestors’ were in
- have a coat of arms
- have a goatee
- were stoked that Forrest Griffin walked out to a Dropkick Murphys song
- own a kilt one of those stupid old man hats
- wear Doc Martens
You’re not Irish, you’re a fucking asshole.
The Irish in general have this huge inferiority complex ’cause the English were jerks to them and someone, somewhere, posted a “no Irish may apply sign” (even though no one alive has ever known anyone who has seen one). Because of these things they get to act like children and whine whenever some one says anything negative about the IRA (terrorists) or mention that St. Patricks day is a waste of green dye or name something after someone who said hi to Cromwell once or when you say that the Irish are anything but the most special group in the world. The best is when it becomes an excuse for shitty behavior. “I can’t help getting piss drunk! I’m Irish! I have absolutely no control over my destiny or behavior, as I am driven by some primal instinct somehow bread into my being. It is a fate I cannot escape no matter how much i try. I am only a half step above animals!”
Excuse me if I already play a “traditional” instrument (fiddle), sorry if that makes me a snowflake. My band has no pretence to be Irish, we are Celtic/American with no apologies, and I am from Dorchrester (part of Boston), which has glorified the whole Irish gangster thing, no clue that most Irish or Scottish foks in Boston are not gangsters, plus that today most of the neighborhoods make “cool” the movies are a majority people of color. Some of us have some fucking solidarity as working class people and are interested in hanging on to what is positive in our ancestry without trying to co-opt anyone elses.
Loved dropkick murphys for years, the punk songs like do or die ect but defz skip the majority of folk ones
I’m don’t have a goatee to be psuedo-irish, I have it because it’s fucking awesome. It’s part of my personal brand.
Thats unfortunate :(
Punkers listen to this and it think it gives them variety or something.
Backed hard.
I used to have a friend who drank Guiness, bought the rugby channels on his satellite package, listened to Dropkick Murphys, requested off St. Patrick’s day at work, the whole nine yards.
Dude was like half Cherokee half German. But his parents went on their honeymoon in Ireland, therefore he had this idea he was conceived in Ireland, therefore he was Irish.
holy fuck, that is obnoxious. i hope you wedgied him
Key phrase being “Used to have”, eh?
Heh, this is sort of topical for me. In like 2 hours Ireland is playing for the top 8 of the rugby world cup in the city I live in, and approx. %50 of the people I have seen today have been wearing green or ireland rugby jerseys because of it!
I had a friend in high school that got a painfully lame tattoo on her wrist because she was like %15 native american. She then went on to celebrate her cultural identity by getting pregnant at 19.
sounds about right if she is native american! ever been to a reservation? if you make it to 19 on the res w/o getting knocked up you’re doing well.
The tulalip reservation is the most goddamn depressing place in the universe.
Here’s some real white identity music: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUKt91wvPE8
I non-ironically love this.
this is actual white people music.
would smash the fuck out of that bish tho
if only real trailer trash looked like that :( i cry.
Sadly, real trailer trash who look like that end up marrying doctors or oil company executives or car dealers.
haha yep, this might be the whitest song i’ve ever heard.
the ultimate is dudes that have boondocks saints tattoos.
its the same as with anything people feel the need to wear on their sleeves, ethnicity, political beliefs, musical taste, religion. they have no personalities or actual opinions so they need a team to join.
Oh god yes- if someone thinks that movie is anything but total shit i cant respect them.
You ever see “overnight”? Now THAT is entertaining!
haha yeah that shits great, that dude is legit mentally ill.
one of my old friends i haunt seen in years, entered the skinhead retirement plan= became rockabilly, now hangs out with a dude with those tattoos :(
I fully back this article. it’s so annoying whenever some American goes “yea I’m half Swedish half Norwegian half German half Eskimo half Martian”, and starts asking “so did you know Günther from Germany??? he was my great great great great uncle’s cousin Jürgen’s go-to male prostitute and my German ancestor,” and you just say “yes. yes I did,” to shut them up.
if you were brought up in the USA, have lived there your entire life, only speak American English, but occasionally wear a horned helmet (which the Vikings incidentally never did) YOU ARE NOT SCANDINAVIAN SHUT UP.
anyway. never thought about how Irish Sarge’s name was. he’s right.
Some of this may also have to do with the last decade’s weird Boston fetishism, via The Departed, The Town, etc. “Hey, there’s a city in America where white people live in projects! That shit is so hard!”
Chicago also seems to have a huge “being Irish is fucking awesome” population.
I prefer southern california where there is the weird occurrence of Mexicans with one Irish ancestor, so there’s someone named like Bernardo de la Villa Rosa Espinoza de la Calle O’Higgins.
Ugh, Boston fetishism = worse than the holocaust!! We get it, you’re from Baastaan and you are proud of your ‘working class roots’, now STFU about it.
If you want to impress people with how tough you are, tell them you are from Cincinnati, Detroit, Youngstown, or any of the other brutally depressing, decaying parts of the rust belt. Now THAT’s some brutal white poverty, plus there’s absolutely nothing cool about being from the midwest so you don’t even get any cool points for it.
Youngstown or any place like that is what people should know is hard, because it is. The only way anyone is getting out of Youngstown is by being a starting defensive back at OSU and not getting stabbed about some shit that happened when you were 15. But the dropkicks are not writing a song about that.
^ this guy knows the score!!
Points for knowing who Rosa Espinoza and O’higgins are.
Sgt, don’t get me wrong, you are winning the internet over and over again on this site, but this was below par. perhaps I am just expecting too much. :(
by the way, you should try living in a non-white part of the world, just to see that it is just as bad in every way you just described. on another note perhaps it is better that you dont know to not lose all hope in humanity.
I am from the west coast, which is anything but “white,” brah. GTFO with your euro superiority complex.
The good neighborhoods in the west coast are White.
“a giant swirling galaxy of gayness” aliteration at its finest there. what white people dont realise is that they dont need there own genre of music WE ALREADY OWN EVERYONE ELSES. plus we have hardcore! why do we need to try and prove our authenticity by jocking bands like the dropkick murphys and proving it with our brand loyalty to guiness?? i’d like to add that trying to prove how irish you are is an exclusively american way of acting. anywhere in europe no one cares.
Dropkick Murphys play on a kind of faux-nostalgia that every one of their fans wants to believe their parents/grandparents listened to Irish folk music when they were ‘wee lads’ and DM are like them ‘carrying on the tradition’ or some shit. Grose.
In reality their parents/grandparents got bored with that shit and got into Frank Sinatra and Ella Fitzgerald instead.
Idk, it’s two sides to a coin, if you’re from europe, you’re from europe, and you’re living on stolen land. Had this convo with some drunken native last week on a train.
lol @ white guilt. find some land that wasn’t “stolen” at one point or another.
SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST, BRAH
Great post, but I particularly noticed one thing…
SARGE
YOU ARE 50% NORWEGIAN
I AM 100% NORWEGIAN
WE CAN BE WHITE ETHNIC BROS AND LISTEN TO BLACK METAL TOGETHER <3 <3 <3 (or devourment and suiside silence, if you prefer that)
I’m 1/8 Irish AKA not Irish. I do like the Pogues and Dubliners though. What I DON’T like are fake Irish bands like Dropkick Murphys, Mighty Bostones, and Korn.
The worst is when assholes like Ben Affleck try to make it out like Boston is some sort of hardass gangster place lolll. Boston is very gay and full of wigger Notre Dame fans.
When has Korn tried to be Irish? I must see this.
Jonathan Davis used to wear a kilt. Pretty sure it was due to Scottish, not Irish incestry though.
In short, if you like something on Stuff White People Like, you’re doin’ it wrong.
I have no cares what ethnicity I am, cause I’m like eight Euro things, can never remember, and its way more effective to just say ‘white’. I can’t understand why so many people focus on little things that really don’t matter.
What, nobody’s gonna point out that Flogging Molly’s singer is actually Irish? Guess I have to…
I know this guy who wants to be a special snowflake so bad, he has a chest-piece where it’s his family’s coat of arms, with the 4 or 5 flags of his euro-muttnicity. Can post tumblr pic later if want- probably worth a chuckle or two?
I have a half uncle who is a world champion of Irish dance and featured heavily in a documentary about Irish dance. Can I claim fake Irish heritage?
I also have multiple sets of half black cousins. I think I am going to claim black heritage instead.
In all seriousness, people who claim some sort of heritage when they were born and raised in AMERICA and are white make me rage.
Both my parents were born in Europe. Look at my user name for what I say I am.
People with military tattoos make me rage. Thats a whole other topic though.
That’s a very strong, prominent username.
I think this retarded behavior is partly due to the fact that it is considered lame for people to identify as American so they latch on to some other cultural identity. Along these
Iines, Sarg you should do a post on white chicks that act like Super Latinos because they are 1/10th Puerto Rican or some shit. Very prevalent among women comedians.
Ha! Well my girlfriends parents are from the phillipines and she grew up in southern california, but her sister talks like a chola and only fucks black guys…
Sounds like you picked the right one of the two!
I don’t think there was another option, really.
This has been on my mind for sooo long – try coming up in the Boston area, where every dude with black eyebrows is ‘irish’. Every fuckin’ sports team has to have some kind of Irish tie-in (they play one DM song whenever any opening game rolls around), every bar has to be fuckin’ over the top Irish – ugh. Even worse the dudes that bash England football into their Irish-ness… Also every fuckin’ kid that comes here from the midwest for college and goes home over X-Mas break trying to talk like they’ve lived in ‘Southie’ their whole lives!! So sick of this fake ethnicity – and these guys bring it out perfectly.
True story – when I told my mother I was moving into Mass (from NH) she said “Please just don’t end up talking like *them* – I couldn’t handle it!”. She also thinks everyone south of the NH border is a Communist. Srs.
I understand your pain. I live an hour away from Boston, yet people make believe that the whole of Massachusetts is Boston so the “fuck yeah Ireland!” mentality resonates greatly. Makes me ashamed to be a bay stater :(
Pioneer Valley > 495 on east. Just sayin’!
Fucking aznbro sounds like a strong independent black woman who don’t need no man.
You wanna talk about white ethnicity? My dad’s side of the family is ridiculously Euro-Jewish, and my genes are completely fucked up because of their centuries’ worth of incest.
So yeah, fuck that shit.
good luck with your eugenics goals in 2011
Every white person I know has at least one of those asshole traits.
Every Single One.
As a heterosexual white male, please accept my apologies on behalf of my people for our shameful behavior.
Now, you’ve got some explaining to do regarding Cowboy Troy… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUPK9z59yUc
Oh lord. I think that has something to do with the controversial Racial Draft Pick trade for John Cena.
Someone needs to explain the midwest and their shockingly low musical standards to me.
Ever wake up late for work, throw on some clothing, splash some water on your face (maybe), mash your hands over your hair, grab your keys and head out the door in a vain attempt not to be late enough to get fired?
That’s how the midwest makes decisions on everything/anything.
“Ah fuck it; good enough.”
What about nuyoricans bro? if there is one group of people i hate with the blind fury of a thousand suns are people who immigrated to new york and think they are some hot shit because they are from Puerto rico aka nuyoricans. they have their own embarrasing parade “celebrating” puertorican pride (even tho theyve never been to the island and posibly dont speak spanish) of which i am ashamed about. sorry bros
oh i thought it went without saying that everybody hates them!! even hondurans and nicaraguans look down on them!
lol, even in puerto rico (the country they are so IN LOVE with because of their “heritage”) we look down upon them. we call them cafre (ghetto)
tr00 borricua
theyll are never going to realize puerto rico is a piece of shit, thats why their parents nad grandparents left in the first place. srsly, if i ever leave this place nad move the the US, ill make sure i move to the state with the less annoying puerto ricans
When you ask filipinos and most indian people if they miss home, theyre usually like “ummm no, not so much. Thats why we left!”
idk know about you, but sometimes i feel americans take their country for granted
I used to work with a bunch of Indians – used to eat lunch with ‘em and when I would ask if they ever wanted to go back…
“Um… no”
Turns out that unless your a rich white tourist, place sucks.
Yeah, the ones I work with say the same thing – everybody wants to move away, and if they go back at all it’s only to retire.
Fun race note, though: when I was in India they were asking around where I’m from because I “don’t look European”. They were guessing Arab or Mexican or something.
I’ve got red hair, which already kinda sucks, but every time I get asked if I’m Irish, I take extreme pleasure in telling their stupid asses that I was born in fucking California.
Thanks for reminding me of a guy I went to high school with. The guy was faux-Irish towards the end of our senior year. What was hilarious is that he was mexican. Not the full on brown skin but the light skinned type. You could tell he was mexican by his accent and the fact his last name was lopez.
The best example I know of this is some douche my gf dated. He was 2/5 Irish or some crap ratio like that. Always wore driving caps and “kiss me I’m Irish” shirts. He even had the nerve to get that stupid prayer from Boondock Saints tattooed on him! You know, the one that ADTR and 100+ other bands sampled and was on every hoodie at hot topic. Also lived off a steady diet of Guinness and steroids
I lived in Ireland for 6 years and in that entire time I did not meet anyone who liked the Dropkick Murphys, if you mention them at all people got really defensive about how it was American poseur shite which is hilarious
Flogging Molly are fucking aces though, deal with
“Basically, I think “white ethnicity” is the gayest fucking thing”
Anti-racist is a codword for antiwhite, and you just proved it.
what are you talking about, i’m racist as fuck, haven’t you ever read this site?
Because you said “Basically, I think “white ethnicity” is the gayest fucking thing”
“Everybody says there is this RACE problem. Everybody says this RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY into white countries.”
“The Netherlands and Belgium are more crowded than Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve this RACE problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.”
“Everybody says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.”
“What if I said there was this RACE problem and this RACE problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into EVERY black country and ONLY into black countries?”
“How long would it take anyone to realize I’m not talking about a RACE problem. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem?”
“And how long would it take any sane black man to notice this and what kind of psycho black man wouldn’t object to this?”
“But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the white race, Liberals and respectable conservatives agree that I am a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.”
“They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white.”
“Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.”
lol if srs GTFO and go back to stormfront
My whole point in posting that is that whites are constantly being attacked for expressing any sense of identity. The people who listen to all of that Irish derived stuff are grasping at what is one of the last acceptable culturally “white” thing that they can.
what? like i said before WE ALREADY OWN EVERYONE ELSES GENRE OF MUSIC, plus hardcore music and metalcore are 80% white males aged 16-25 what we’re talking about is how people in america (not just white people but also mexicans) who think they’re culturally irish when they know nothing about being from the british isles or northern europe at all, oh btw the concentrations of immigrants in white countries are wildly skewed with populations looking at often transient working immigrants who come to big cities like london or paris for work, most of the non white “problems” in previously imperial nations like britain france and germany come from countries we previously conquered, aside from that the main immigrant population in europe are polish lithuanian ukranian russian etc especially, so we are gaining a lot more white immigrants than anything here, re assess your world view bro. BOOM
signed freftd
“freftd” the “SWPL”?
“most of the non white “problems” in previously imperial nations like britain france and germany come from countries we previously conquered,” So your trying to justify genocide?
and here is where i go off to do something more productive, bye.
lololololol – sucks being white :(
I, for one, welcome our new minority overlords.
I’m kinda proud of being from Scandinavian/Mongol Horde descent. Sometimes I have inexplicable dreams about riding horses and burning villages whilst being surrounded by men in furry hats.
(/end sarcasm)
In all seriousness, I’m half Norwegian too and not at all asian/mongolian/Genghis Khan-ian, Attila the Hun-ian, etc
Dropkick Murphy’s fucking sucks, but their drummer sang for Fit For Abuse and they were great.
“…think they’re culturally irish when they know nothing about being from the british isles or northern europe at all” doesn’t make a bit of fucking sence. Ireland isn’t part of the ‘British Isles’ anymore. Not for almost 100 years. No one calls them that anymore ( Just sayin’).Irish music was perserved by Americans in Chicago and New York and Baastan. It was then transported from here back to Ireland. Without the Irish in America and the UK a lot of musical tradition would’ve been lost. Most people in Oirland like American country music and rap. So it is perfectly reasonable for Americans to play Irish music. But I agree that most of it is fucking pathetic crappy music.
No it’s not …I am from Ireland…that music is nothing like Irish music, you did not preserve it we in Ireland did.
And the Pogues are British from England. They are not Irish.
You can play whatever you want ….music is free to anyone …just like someone from Dublin can play Jimmy Hendrix or Woody Guthrie.
But it does require a certain degree of humility and respect on behalf of the musician.
Americans claiming they preserved Irish music is incorrect and arrogant. It shows little respect for actual Irish musicians. We are and always have been able to celebrate and preserve our own culture.
Respect the difference between Irish culture and American culture and then enjoy playing whatever music you like :-)
My friend, you seem to know little of American folk music. Many traditional Irish songs, as well as other songs of the insular Celtic peoples, were seeded by immigrants into early American folk culture. There it took on its own distinct features, colored by English, Scottish, Welsh and Irish voices. This is known as Appalachian music, and it remains a crucial aspect of American folk heritage, later morphing into working class mining music and eventually merging in some cases with African-American blues. Certain Irish ballads were indeed preserved in American culture, as well as in New England culture, in particular (where a great deal of Irish immigrants settled).
Certainly this does not mean Americans are Irish or Welsh or whatever. But we have traditions of our own that ultimately stem from the countries of our (largely Western European) ancestors.
Thats her whole point. The shit here is not Irish, it’s American and should be regarded in its own right, not “in keeping with Irish culture”.
If that’s her point, then where do the Dropkick Murphys (or any other such shitty band) claim to be wholly Irish in their cultural substance? I personally think the Dropkick Murphys are ridiculous and over the top. Does not mean Irish folk has not made an important impact on American… Nor do I have to claim to be “Irish” to have an interest in the Irish Gaelic language…
When Appalachian music morphed into rockabilly and rock ‘n’ roll through different channels, the basic template of rock music was created (by African-Americans like Chuck Berry and by much cooler white nerds like Buddy Holly). When you play rock music in Dublin with Irish musicians you are taking part in American tradition, rechanneled, often rather poorly, into your own cultural milieu (just as the Beatles were pretending to be American when they began covering Buddy Holly and trying to imitate African-American mannerisms…)
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This is the dumbest shit I’ve ever read. You need to take a history lesson with your dipshit six grade education and reverse racist ass. Your lucky the internet is around otherwise you would have nothing to do… F off
I read this in a really belligerent faux irish accent.
CON’T TEAK YA SAYRIUSLY MEET, FOOK OFF!!!
rofl
MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATTTTTT!!!!
I knew you’d be down with this blog *brofist*
I am from IRELAND DUBLIN
We HATE psuedo Irish mock ups.
Americans (whether they call themselves Irish or not) are culurally nothing like us and i have nothing against Americans. But we are socially and psychologically totally different. We communicate in a totally different style and we have different values. Our social structures are different. Americans who come here to ‘discover their roots’ realize that it is a foreign culture that they actually know nothing about. Manners, body language and even our thinking are very different. The way we use language is unique in all countries.
It is nothing to do with history books or music we act, think, speak and behave differently. comparing Irish people to Americans (of any heritage) is silly we are not similar. Family life and social life are different here.
And the pogues are not actually Irish…they are from the UK….they are English….and we don’t hate England or anyone for that matter.
such a special snowflake
Necrobump 2 mock misinformed-potato-eatin-lezbo-foreigner +1.
i love Dropkick Murphys but ive never thought their music was true irish. i have always known they were american. but the way i look at it, it doesn’t matter your ‘blood’ when it comes to music. play what you like and what you want im tired of seeing people bitch 24/7 about this shit. i honestly don’t give a f*** about how their not true irish but americans with a bit of irish blood, what i know is they’re badass and i will continue to enjoy them.
although i would like to point out to this irish ‘I’ person that the pogues’s frontman was born in england to both fully irish parents.
Posting about old topics itt.
I jocked DM hard when I was in high school. Went through a period when I wore a scally cap and studded belt and everything. Never listened to anything past Do or Die though, really. That album right after it was pretty decent with one real good song (Curse of a Fallen Soul), but Al Barr is such a massive, massive downgrade to Mike McColgan. Never understood why this wasn’t talked about more. They replaced him with Barr (not Irish or Boston in the least), and suddenly felt the need to go way overboard with the bagpipes and flutes and shit. It also coincided with the bassist starting to sing a lot more songs.
Do or Die is still legit as fuck.
Is there a reason that white people are the only ones that can’t be proud of their culture, or I guess heritage in this instance. A lot of the Murphys songs are covers of old folk songs which just add some punk and speed to them for those that like the type of music. I love the comments stating that white people born and raised in America are American but nothing else. Somehow everyone else is Asian American or African American or some shit. Either everyone is just American or white people are European America. Quit being douches…
Angry White Guy, you guys don’t need to claim a culture distinct culture because you’re the majority (for now). True enough, everyone should be “American” but we simply arent there yet. The only people who need to be jocking “Irish-American heritage” is dudes who just got off the boat, not someone who’s family has been here for over a century. Its pedantic. Just like how its foolish for uppity black folk to celebrate Kwanzaa to “identify with their roots”, when they’re the farthest thing from contemporary African culture.
You should be proud to be white american (srs), you dont need to dilute it and fake the funk.
It is probably difficult for a black American to grasp, but cultural memory is much stronger in certain European-descended households than among African-Americans. Afterall, many black slaves have been “disowned” by their ancestral West African cultures by literally being sold by their fellow Africans to Europeans as property. The majority of European immigrants to the US came over in less traumatic circumstances, and often settled in areas of similar cultural make-up, and maintained certain traditions and attitudes, while giving up things like Irish Gaelic or certain dialects from England or what have you.
Heritage is a thing of ancestry and tradition, I think you are missing the point of its true meaning. Many of the things we hold dear– and which we can lose– like freedom of speech and so on have a unique European “heritage” of their own, and it should not be forgotten.
Yes; the majority of Americans are European-descended. The US is founded on European Enlightenment ideas. The language is English, the true culture is intertwined with European ideas and experience; as Emerson, Whitman, and Melville were very much consciously writing in competition with European literary figures and ideas.
The US is not Asian or African or Mayan or what have you. They can come here and live and avoid the reality of the culture and immerse themselves in pop culture, but it doesn’t show they have any love for it. If they want their ancestry and ways, let them return to their theaters of origin. They can play a great role in American culture by midwiving their own experience into a greater gestalt and help us build American culture, but nowadays it is more fashionable to be full of ressentiment…
I just shot a load in my mind thinking about sawing your fucking weak heads off… You fucking self loathing idiots… You bash your own culture and yet say nothing about a billion niggers claiming to be African. I suppose when someone asks you where you were born, in your infinite wisdom you reply that since you have not lived there in awhile that you are from nowhere. You should all do like Kurt kobain and blow your fucking heads off… If it was not for the trials that our English and Irish ancestors went through, your fucking weak white asses wouldn’t be here to complain… Fucking pussies
^ Obvious Z.O.G. plant…
Oh and I didn’t know clover only found in Ireland, who gives a fuck is people have shamrock tattoos… It doesn’t mean they are trying to be hardcore IRA. Shit… I have a tattoo of myself fucking your mom, it doesn’t mean I am your daddy…
Pls try and be more butthurt
Also try and come up with moar tuff angry ways to kill everyone
U have the ability
Jonny I wood kill u by running @ you with a Tom Clancy novel & throwing it at either of your feet, everyday for the next 80 years, until you died of natural causes. TOP THAT FGGT.
Thanks for bringing this up, its a compicated issue. Yes, a lot of us white folks are hungry for some kind of spirituality and identity cause our families, in order to survive, took advantage of the chance they had to assimilate because they were white, and gave up their culture to do so. People of color have asked me, why are white folks so mean to each other? Demonizing your people is also a sign of self-hate. We need to have some love and compassion instead. I would welcome a dialogue of anti-racist white folks, people of color and people who are mixed, who are willing to participate, about this. And if I or anyone else makes a mistake, lets call each other out lovingly, but realize that anyone brought up in this racist society is going to make mistakes. (and by the way, I play a traditional instrument and my band is not embarrassed to be Celtic-American punk.)
ps: not knowing, in many cases, what race people are unless they state in in their replies, I just want to make clear that it is the white people demonizing each other that I am referring to.
Christine, if u knew Sgt. D’s real name this entire ridic post would all make sense.
And if you’re in search of “identity” look in the mirror, if you need to feel some sense of “pride” then accomplish something in life, & good luck with that whole “spirituality” thing. Also thanks for reviving a lame post on an even lamer subject.
Does ur band do Skrewdriver covers, because if so I’d rly liek 2 hear them.
OP can we PLEASE merge this post w’ the Stretched Ears & Dubstep posts, just to rope-in all the butthurt fggts?
This makes absolutely no sense.
YEAH NUSTEJ
MAKE MORE SENSE
JESUS
You’re right, I’m going to have a lezbo Wiccan Gynarchist Isadora Duncan dance instructor/Kombucha-brewer named Gethsemane Starhawk write my posts for me from now on, so gentle folk with delicate sensibilities are not left puzzled.
Also I am tired of all this homophobic shit.
Christine you are a racist faggot
If anyone has a serious non-homophobic reply which is capable of taking a “chick” seriously, I would like to hear it , otherwise shut the fuck upl.
Christine, i am getting a strong ‘fat upper arms’ vibe from you. Can you confirm?
If anyone has a serious non-homophobic reply which is capable of taking a “chick” seriously, I would like to hear it , otherwise shut the fuck up.
thank you for coming into our community, informing us of your strong negative opinion, and telling us to shut up.
sorry I hurt your feelings
Serious short answer: using any kind of music/scene/hobby as the basis of your identity is ridiculous, as is claiming a culture that you are not actively a part of/living in (new generation whites claiming Irish heritage is ultimately as foolish as them claiming blackness/being wiggers).
Please be safe in your future fiddling endeavors.
That’s totala B.S. Vyce, u know u dress up like Shaka Zulu on the weekends & go kill lions & safari-fggts.
With a fucking spear.
you mean fuck them with a spear
Call it a “spear” if u want…
How is claiming Irish heritage “bullshit”? Heritage is different from literally being born and raised in Ireland. Heritage refers to one’s ancestry. Grasp the difference?
Our Founding Fathers were very much enamored of their largely English ancestry. Jefferson for example, a student of Anglo-Saxon, saw the principles of the US governmental structures as deriving from old Anglo-Saxon structures. Ancestry and heritage go back to the Founders.
The Founders represent authentic ways of being-American. The inauthentic ways come with the rise of consumer culture. You represent the latter, only here it seems to be peppered with lame white self-loathing and various attempts to make any kind of memory of pre-American heritage a cultural taboo.
The difference between wiggers and Americans claiming Irish heritage is that Ireland is full of white people that look like me and my family, and a few generations ago they were living there, speaking Irish Gaelic as well as English. Wiggers, on the other hand, are alienated honkies identifying with African-American culture for one way or another.
“self white loathing”
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I agree that many European-descended Americans loathe the cultures of their ancestors (as well as their own culture). Seeing the endless consumerist multicultural amalgam that American culture has become, it is not hard to see why. But it is a long way from Whitman and Hawthorne…
The most malicious strategies of self-loathing, however, come from certain contemporary ideologies and their attendant mantras of guilt.
And I do not think wiggers loathe themselves; a great deal of wiggers I’ve met have been extremely racist against blacks.
You dumb fuck
It’s not that European-descended Americans loathe the cultures of their ancestors, it’s the fact that Europeans want absolutely nothing to do with you and your stupid conspiracy theory white bread american thought process. Jesus, how can you stand yourself.
Plz give us the address of your blog so we can all go there and tell you to shut up.
Also please give us the time and date of your next anti-racist-non-homophobic-white dialogue seminar as I am sure I speak for everyone here in saying that we would consider it an honor to give the $5000 /head entry fee to listen to you whine, complain, mumble and shake your fat arms around. Please respond as soon as possible.
What a load of dung. The majority of European-descended Americans are Western Europeans of some sort or other– The idea that everyone is just “White American” is absurd. Your ancestors have been Irish or German for thousands of years– Does that mean all tradition just ends, you listen to commercial American music and begin consuming? Transparent bullshit.
I’m Dominican from the heights, but There’s a neighborhood in the Bronx called Woodlawn that’s filled with recent Irish immigrants and Irish-Americans. Very tight-knit, working class, safe area. Some of the people there have accents so thick i cant understand them a lot of the time. So i don’t know who these “fake Irish” are, but the Americans in Woodlawn are all from irish families and have every right to acknowledge their heritage and family culture.
the irish are thick as two short planks and think of no one only themselves and moan about what england done to them years ago, well i will tell you now, you brought it all on yourselves
literally all I see on here is “buthurt comment, buthurt comment, buthurt comment, and in the responses- Troll, Troll, Troll, Troll, Troll. I cant believe people can’t see this, I mean, the URL “stuffyouwillhate.com” kind of gives it away doesn’t it?
I jock the Murphys/Flogging Molly/bands that sound like them hard. I have a shamrock tattoo and always drink Guinness when its available.
Here’s the catch – I’m Indian/Pacific Islander (Fijian).
I don’t know what the fuck that makes me. I’ve never really had a desire to be Irish or anything.
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Wow you people are rude & ignorant. And probably should learn correct spelling & grammar.
hahahahhhaaa!!! hilarious and to the point. great stuff.
the funny thing about faux Irish ancestry nonsense is sometimes they can’t even get it right. The band Dropkick Murphys have bagpipes on one album I heard. the song being played on the pipes was not Irish but Scottish. hahahahahhaa!! I guess they can’t even get the country right as long as it sounds similar.
Faux irish? Ken has irish roots,grew up influenced by irish music came from a working class family. Alot of what dkm write they have witnessed. Nothing phony. The have been going strong 17 years now. groups like the dubliners have embraced dkm. Ronnie drew recorded with them. shane macgowan and spider stacy have recorded with then. Nobody pretends to be irish. AlAl barr is german and has acknowledged this. To the person who said he wasnt from boston…..he was in the boston based bamd the bruisers prior to dkm.
Dropkick Murphy’s is my favorite white power band. They play what is essentially a form of socially acceptable RAC / melodic Oi. “Irish” and “Working Class” are code concepts for “White” and “Not on welfare (as all minorities are)”. Their phony, tough guy posturing appeals to young insecure males, expanding their fan base. Whoever developed DKM as a concept is a marketing genius!