Freftd asks: What do you think of bands like the dropkick murphy’s flogging molly etc?? i know folk is gross but what if it is genuine folk like the dubliners or folk/rock like the pogues?? is irish folk music more valid because it revolves around getting drunk?? also why are americans obsessed with being irish because they have about 1 irish cousin or some irish ancestry and back it up with a shamrock tattoo. is that like an earlier version of white people with non english tattoos???
I’m glad you asked, because I’ve been meaning to address this topic for a while. Basically, I think “white ethnicity” is the gayest fucking thing on earth, which makes shitty ‘punk’ bands based on some Americans’ fantasies of being working-class Irish people a giant swirling galaxy of gayness. And let me add that although my father is from Norway and my mom is American, I have the most Irish name of all time (basically along the lines of Seamus McGillicutty) so I know a thing or two about fake Irish people (because I am one).
My issue with white ethnicity is the same reason I get so irritated by people who are obsessed with travel, have quirky alternative weddings, and other enraging white foolishness. You see, the reason why sheltered whites make a huge deal out of their faux-ethnicity is because they are boring people who have never done anything interesting and accordingly feel like their lives are hollow and meaningless.
This aznbro knows what’s up with ‘white ethnicity’- “Bitch, you’re three flavors of vanilla, am I supposed to know?”
This is hard for them to handle, since whites all have a deep need to feel like special snowflakes, so when they realize that they are actually not so special they hate themselves. And I can’t blame them, they are disgusting, weak people who probably should hate themselves. In their desperate search to find specialness, they latch onto some fragment of their supposed ethnicity and blow it out of proportion (with embarrassing results). You see, it’s much easier to make yourself sound exotic and worldly by saying shit like “I’m 1/8 Cherokee, that’s where I get my tenacity!!” than actually doing something meaningful.
If you…
- have ‘traditional instruments’ in your band
- talk about what ‘clan’ your ‘ancestors’ were in
- have a coat of arms
- have a goatee
- were stoked that Forrest Griffin walked out to a Dropkick Murphys song
- own a kilt one of those stupid old man hats
- wear Doc Martens
You’re not Irish, you’re a fucking asshole.
The Irish in general have this huge inferiority complex ’cause the English were jerks to them and someone, somewhere, posted a “no Irish may apply sign” (even though no one alive has ever known anyone who has seen one). Because of these things they get to act like children and whine whenever some one says anything negative about the IRA (terrorists) or mention that St. Patricks day is a waste of green dye or name something after someone who said hi to Cromwell once or when you say that the Irish are anything but the most special group in the world. The best is when it becomes an excuse for shitty behavior. “I can’t help getting piss drunk! I’m Irish! I have absolutely no control over my destiny or behavior, as I am driven by some primal instinct somehow bread into my being. It is a fate I cannot escape no matter how much i try. I am only a half step above animals!”
Loved dropkick murphys for years, the punk songs like do or die ect but defz skip the majority of folk ones
I’m don’t have a goatee to be psuedo-irish, I have it because it’s fucking awesome. It’s part of my personal brand.
Thats unfortunate :(
Punkers listen to this and it think it gives them variety or something.
Backed hard.
I used to have a friend who drank Guiness, bought the rugby channels on his satellite package, listened to Dropkick Murphys, requested off St. Patrick’s day at work, the whole nine yards.
Dude was like half Cherokee half German. But his parents went on their honeymoon in Ireland, therefore he had this idea he was conceived in Ireland, therefore he was Irish.
holy fuck, that is obnoxious. i hope you wedgied him
Heh, this is sort of topical for me. In like 2 hours Ireland is playing for the top 8 of the rugby world cup in the city I live in, and approx. %50 of the people I have seen today have been wearing green or ireland rugby jerseys because of it!
I had a friend in high school that got a painfully lame tattoo on her wrist because she was like %15 native american. She then went on to celebrate her cultural identity by getting pregnant at 19.
sounds about right if she is native american! ever been to a reservation? if you make it to 19 on the res w/o getting knocked up you’re doing well.
The tulalip reservation is the most goddamn depressing place in the universe.
Here’s some real white identity music: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUKt91wvPE8
I non-ironically love this.
this is actual white people music.
would smash the fuck out of that bish tho
if only real trailer trash looked like that :( i cry.
Sadly, real trailer trash who look like that end up marrying doctors or oil company executives or car dealers.
haha yep, this might be the whitest song i’ve ever heard.
the ultimate is dudes that have boondocks saints tattoos.
its the same as with anything people feel the need to wear on their sleeves, ethnicity, political beliefs, musical taste, religion. they have no personalities or actual opinions so they need a team to join.
Oh god yes- if someone thinks that movie is anything but total shit i cant respect them.
You ever see “overnight”? Now THAT is entertaining!
haha yeah that shits great, that dude is legit mentally ill.
one of my old friends i haunt seen in years, entered the skinhead retirement plan= became rockabilly, now hangs out with a dude with those tattoos :(
I fully back this article. it’s so annoying whenever some American goes “yea I’m half Swedish half Norwegian half German half Eskimo half Martian”, and starts asking “so did you know Günther from Germany??? he was my great great great great uncle’s cousin Jürgen’s go-to male prostitute and my German ancestor,” and you just say “yes. yes I did,” to shut them up.
if you were brought up in the USA, have lived there your entire life, only speak American English, but occasionally wear a horned helmet (which the Vikings incidentally never did) YOU ARE NOT SCANDINAVIAN SHUT UP.
anyway. never thought about how Irish Sarge’s name was. he’s right.
Some of this may also have to do with the last decade’s weird Boston fetishism, via The Departed, The Town, etc. “Hey, there’s a city in America where white people live in projects! That shit is so hard!”
Chicago also seems to have a huge “being Irish is fucking awesome” population.
I prefer southern california where there is the weird occurrence of Mexicans with one Irish ancestor, so there’s someone named like Bernardo de la Villa Rosa Espinoza de la Calle O’Higgins.
Ugh, Boston fetishism = worse than the holocaust!! We get it, you’re from Baastaan and you are proud of your ‘working class roots’, now STFU about it.
If you want to impress people with how tough you are, tell them you are from Cincinnati, Detroit, Youngstown, or any of the other brutally depressing, decaying parts of the rust belt. Now THAT’s some brutal white poverty, plus there’s absolutely nothing cool about being from the midwest so you don’t even get any cool points for it.
Youngstown or any place like that is what people should know is hard, because it is. The only way anyone is getting out of Youngstown is by being a starting defensive back at OSU and not getting stabbed about some shit that happened when you were 15. But the dropkicks are not writing a song about that.
^ this guy knows the score!!
Points for knowing who Rosa Espinoza and O’higgins are.
Sgt, don’t get me wrong, you are winning the internet over and over again on this site, but this was below par. perhaps I am just expecting too much. :(
by the way, you should try living in a non-white part of the world, just to see that it is just as bad in every way you just described. on another note perhaps it is better that you dont know to not lose all hope in humanity.
I am from the west coast, which is anything but “white,” brah. GTFO with your euro superiority complex.
“a giant swirling galaxy of gayness” aliteration at its finest there. what white people dont realise is that they dont need there own genre of music WE ALREADY OWN EVERYONE ELSES. plus we have hardcore! why do we need to try and prove our authenticity by jocking bands like the dropkick murphys and proving it with our brand loyalty to guiness?? i’d like to add that trying to prove how irish you are is an exclusively american way of acting. anywhere in europe no one cares.
Dropkick Murphys play on a kind of faux-nostalgia that every one of their fans wants to believe their parents/grandparents listened to Irish folk music when they were ‘wee lads’ and DM are like them ‘carrying on the tradition’ or some shit. Grose.
In reality their parents/grandparents got bored with that shit and got into Frank Sinatra and Ella Fitzgerald instead.
Idk, it’s two sides to a coin, if you’re from europe, you’re from europe, and you’re living on stolen land. Had this convo with some drunken native last week on a train.
lol @ white guilt. find some land that wasn’t “stolen” at one point or another.
SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST, BRAH
Great post, but I particularly noticed one thing…
SARGE
YOU ARE 50% NORWEGIAN
I AM 100% NORWEGIAN
WE CAN BE WHITE ETHNIC BROS AND LISTEN TO BLACK METAL TOGETHER <3 <3 <3 (or devourment and suiside silence, if you prefer that)
I’m 1/8 Irish AKA not Irish. I do like the Pogues and Dubliners though. What I DON’T like are fake Irish bands like Dropkick Murphys, Mighty Bostones, and Korn.
The worst is when assholes like Ben Affleck try to make it out like Boston is some sort of hardass gangster place lolll. Boston is very gay and full of wigger Notre Dame fans.
When has Korn tried to be Irish? I must see this.
Jonathan Davis used to wear a kilt. Pretty sure it was due to Scottish, not Irish incestry though.
In short, if you like something on Stuff White People Like, you’re doin’ it wrong.
I have no cares what ethnicity I am, cause I’m like eight Euro things, can never remember, and its way more effective to just say ‘white’. I can’t understand why so many people focus on little things that really don’t matter.
What, nobody’s gonna point out that Flogging Molly’s singer is actually Irish? Guess I have to…
I know this guy who wants to be a special snowflake so bad, he has a chest-piece where it’s his family’s coat of arms, with the 4 or 5 flags of his euro-muttnicity. Can post tumblr pic later if want- probably worth a chuckle or two?
I have a half uncle who is a world champion of Irish dance and featured heavily in a documentary about Irish dance. Can I claim fake Irish heritage?
I also have multiple sets of half black cousins. I think I am going to claim black heritage instead.
In all seriousness, people who claim some sort of heritage when they were born and raised in AMERICA and are white make me rage.
Both my parents were born in Europe. Look at my user name for what I say I am.
People with military tattoos make me rage. Thats a whole other topic though.
That’s a very strong, prominent username.
I think this retarded behavior is partly due to the fact that it is considered lame for people to identify as American so they latch on to some other cultural identity. Along these
Iines, Sarg you should do a post on white chicks that act like Super Latinos because they are 1/10th Puerto Rican or some shit. Very prevalent among women comedians.
Ha! Well my girlfriends parents are from the phillipines and she grew up in southern california, but her sister talks like a chola and only fucks black guys…
Sounds like you picked the right one of the two!
I don’t think there was another option, really.
This has been on my mind for sooo long – try coming up in the Boston area, where every dude with black eyebrows is ‘irish’. Every fuckin’ sports team has to have some kind of Irish tie-in (they play one DM song whenever any opening game rolls around), every bar has to be fuckin’ over the top Irish – ugh. Even worse the dudes that bash England football into their Irish-ness… Also every fuckin’ kid that comes here from the midwest for college and goes home over X-Mas break trying to talk like they’ve lived in ‘Southie’ their whole lives!! So sick of this fake ethnicity – and these guys bring it out perfectly.
True story – when I told my mother I was moving into Mass (from NH) she said “Please just don’t end up talking like *them* – I couldn’t handle it!”. She also thinks everyone south of the NH border is a Communist. Srs.
I understand your pain. I live an hour away from Boston, yet people make believe that the whole of Massachusetts is Boston so the “fuck yeah Ireland!” mentality resonates greatly. Makes me ashamed to be a bay stater :(
Pioneer Valley > 495 on east. Just sayin’!
Fucking aznbro sounds like a strong independent black woman who don’t need no man.
You wanna talk about white ethnicity? My dad’s side of the family is ridiculously Euro-Jewish, and my genes are completely fucked up because of their centuries’ worth of incest.
So yeah, fuck that shit.
good luck with your eugenics goals in 2011
Every white person I know has at least one of those asshole traits.
Every Single One.
As a heterosexual white male, please accept my apologies on behalf of my people for our shameful behavior.
Now, you’ve got some explaining to do regarding Cowboy Troy… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUPK9z59yUc
Oh lord. I think that has something to do with the controversial Racial Draft Pick trade for John Cena.
Someone needs to explain the midwest and their shockingly low musical standards to me.
Ever wake up late for work, throw on some clothing, splash some water on your face (maybe), mash your hands over your hair, grab your keys and head out the door in a vain attempt not to be late enough to get fired?
That’s how the midwest makes decisions on everything/anything.
“Ah fuck it; good enough.”
What about nuyoricans bro? if there is one group of people i hate with the blind fury of a thousand suns are people who immigrated to new york and think they are some hot shit because they are from Puerto rico aka nuyoricans. they have their own embarrasing parade “celebrating” puertorican pride (even tho theyve never been to the island and posibly dont speak spanish) of which i am ashamed about. sorry bros
oh i thought it went without saying that everybody hates them!! even hondurans and nicaraguans look down on them!
lol, even in puerto rico (the country they are so IN LOVE with because of their “heritage”) we look down upon them. we call them cafre (ghetto)
tr00 borricua
theyll are never going to realize puerto rico is a piece of shit, thats why their parents nad grandparents left in the first place. srsly, if i ever leave this place nad move the the US, ill make sure i move to the state with the less annoying puerto ricans
When you ask filipinos and most indian people if they miss home, theyre usually like “ummm no, not so much. Thats why we left!”
idk know about you, but sometimes i feel americans take their country for granted
I used to work with a bunch of Indians – used to eat lunch with ‘em and when I would ask if they ever wanted to go back…
“Um… no”
Turns out that unless your a rich white tourist, place sucks.
Yeah, the ones I work with say the same thing – everybody wants to move away, and if they go back at all it’s only to retire.
Fun race note, though: when I was in India they were asking around where I’m from because I “don’t look European”. They were guessing Arab or Mexican or something.
I’ve got red hair, which already kinda sucks, but every time I get asked if I’m Irish, I take extreme pleasure in telling their stupid asses that I was born in fucking California.
Thanks for reminding me of a guy I went to high school with. The guy was faux-Irish towards the end of our senior year. What was hilarious is that he was mexican. Not the full on brown skin but the light skinned type. You could tell he was mexican by his accent and the fact his last name was lopez.
The best example I know of this is some douche my gf dated. He was 2/5 Irish or some crap ratio like that. Always wore driving caps and “kiss me I’m Irish” shirts. He even had the nerve to get that stupid prayer from Boondock Saints tattooed on him! You know, the one that ADTR and 100+ other bands sampled and was on every hoodie at hot topic. Also lived off a steady diet of Guinness and steroids
I lived in Ireland for 6 years and in that entire time I did not meet anyone who liked the Dropkick Murphys, if you mention them at all people got really defensive about how it was American poseur shite which is hilarious
Flogging Molly are fucking aces though, deal with
“Basically, I think “white ethnicity” is the gayest fucking thing”
Anti-racist is a codword for antiwhite, and you just proved it.
what are you talking about, i’m racist as fuck, haven’t you ever read this site?
Because you said “Basically, I think “white ethnicity” is the gayest fucking thing”
“Everybody says there is this RACE problem. Everybody says this RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY into white countries.”
“The Netherlands and Belgium are more crowded than Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve this RACE problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.”
“Everybody says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.”
“What if I said there was this RACE problem and this RACE problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into EVERY black country and ONLY into black countries?”
“How long would it take anyone to realize I’m not talking about a RACE problem. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem?”
“And how long would it take any sane black man to notice this and what kind of psycho black man wouldn’t object to this?”
“But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the white race, Liberals and respectable conservatives agree that I am a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.”
“They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white.”
“Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.”
lol if srs GTFO and go back to stormfront
My whole point in posting that is that whites are constantly being attacked for expressing any sense of identity. The people who listen to all of that Irish derived stuff are grasping at what is one of the last acceptable culturally “white” thing that they can.
what? like i said before WE ALREADY OWN EVERYONE ELSES GENRE OF MUSIC, plus hardcore music and metalcore are 80% white males aged 16-25 what we’re talking about is how people in america (not just white people but also mexicans) who think they’re culturally irish when they know nothing about being from the british isles or northern europe at all, oh btw the concentrations of immigrants in white countries are wildly skewed with populations looking at often transient working immigrants who come to big cities like london or paris for work, most of the non white “problems” in previously imperial nations like britain france and germany come from countries we previously conquered, aside from that the main immigrant population in europe are polish lithuanian ukranian russian etc especially, so we are gaining a lot more white immigrants than anything here, re assess your world view bro. BOOM
signed freftd
“freftd” the “SWPL”?
“most of the non white “problems” in previously imperial nations like britain france and germany come from countries we previously conquered,” So your trying to justify genocide?
and here is where i go off to do something more productive, bye.
lololololol – sucks being white :(
I, for one, welcome our new minority overlords.
I’m kinda proud of being from Scandinavian/Mongol Horde descent. Sometimes I have inexplicable dreams about riding horses and burning villages whilst being surrounded by men in furry hats.
(/end sarcasm)
In all seriousness, I’m half Norwegian too and not at all asian/mongolian/Genghis Khan-ian, Attila the Hun-ian, etc
Dropkick Murphy’s fucking sucks, but their drummer sang for Fit For Abuse and they were great.
“…think they’re culturally irish when they know nothing about being from the british isles or northern europe at all” doesn’t make a bit of fucking sence. Ireland isn’t part of the ‘British Isles’ anymore. Not for almost 100 years. No one calls them that anymore ( Just sayin’).Irish music was perserved by Americans in Chicago and New York and Baastan. It was then transported from here back to Ireland. Without the Irish in America and the UK a lot of musical tradition would’ve been lost. Most people in Oirland like American country music and rap. So it is perfectly reasonable for Americans to play Irish music. But I agree that most of it is fucking pathetic crappy music.
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This is the dumbest shit I’ve ever read. You need to take a history lesson with your dipshit six grade education and reverse racist ass. Your lucky the internet is around otherwise you would have nothing to do… F off
I read this in a really belligerent faux irish accent.
CON’T TEAK YA SAYRIUSLY MEET, FOOK OFF!!!
rofl
MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATTTTTT!!!!
I knew you’d be down with this blog *brofist*