A new style of music always starts off the same way – some dudes make some sounds which jocks, fratboys and girls don’t give a shit about. That appeals to loser dudes because they can go to a show and hang out with other loser dudes. Sooner or later, though, some band playing this style takes out the stupidest most annoying parts, and makes music good enough that some girls start to show up. That’s the beginning of the end.
Gay bars work the same way. They start off as a place for some dudes who don’t really want to hang out with typical jocks and fratboys. Sooner or later, though, some girls will show up because they can go out drinking with their friends and not have guys hitting on them all night, plus hey, the music there’s pretty good too. And that’s the beginning of the end.
The death of an underground music style or a gay bar always looks exactly the same. Once more than three girls show up and it’s not a complete sausage fest anymore, normal dudes will magically appear just so we can hit on those girls. For an underground music style or a gay bar, that’s the end. Once guys like me think it’s pretty cool, it’s completely normal and mnstrm and you gotta start all over again.


normal dudes are jocks/fratboys? go die
Jocks and fratboys are the most annoying type of people. It’s worth having minimal female attendance (and there will be some girls at underground shows) in order to keep the jocks and fratboys away.
Sounds like you spend too much time at gay bars.
I used to be in a band with a guy who DJed at a gay bar. Always complaining about something or another there. The band was pretty underground but then it got better.
The gay bar in Lincoln is basically all straight people on Thursdays, and I think it’s the only club you can go to when you’re under 21, so it’s really popular with college kids.
“Once guys like me think it’s pretty cool, it’s completely normal and mnstrm and you gotta start all over again.”
Story of my life :,[
Instead of starting over you could break the cycle – start listening to Shakira and dating mnstrm girls. It worked for me.
Or you could keep listening to music you enjoy and date mnstrm girls.
I really do like Shakira, tho. “Ojos asi” esp.
To each his own I suppose. I’ll admit to jamming TDWP’s Zombie EP once in a while. So not tr00 :(
That was a super cool story, bro! Tell it again!
It is a story as old as human civilization, and was told in several ancient Greek tragedies already.
Old meme is old.
Finally a post addressing my love of gay bars! srs
No offense, but I don’t really see the analogy. Gay dudes love having straight girls at their bars so they can bitch to them about their terrible day at work/show them pictures on their cell phones/chatter about men, thereby fulfilling the conversational quotient for the evening while getting their sloppy flirt/fuck on with the other dudes there (rather than bumming out or boring said flirt/fuck targets with the same conversational topics). There’s nothing “death” about that – it’s a useful social function!
The “death” part is that after the girls show up, straight dudes will sooner or later inevitably start showing up too. And then you can’t really be underground/gay anymore.
“Sooner or later, though, some band playing this style takes out the stupidest most annoying parts, and makes music good enough that some girls start to show up.”
Or the opposite. La Dispute, Defeater, and Have Heart took out all the good points and have fandoms of mostly girls.
I find this doubly interesting because I’ve heard a few of the gay dudes I know complain that the glossy mindless synthy euro dance/gay disco trash that only they loved is now considered such a hot object of consumption by Brodudes the last few years. “Can’t a faggot ghetto stay a faggot ghetto?” (acutal quote).