Punk is kind of like that one friend of yours who is a good dude and you love him, but you can’t let him into your house because he will steal your shit, barf on the carpet, and call your girlfriend a whore, then apologize for all of it, sob uncontrollably until 3AM and pass out in your bed. You really WANT to be friends with him you just can’t be, because he’s such a fuckup that it’s impossible for grown-ups to handle his bullshit.
To make a long story short, I guess I love punk as much as I hate it. Like most old hardcore dudes, I grew up on punk and it still has a special place in my heart. But thanks to 20+ years of interacting with punk rockers, sometimes I want to use the shards of a shattered Angelic Upstarts 7″ to dig out that piece of my heart and feed it to some crust punk’s starving-mutt-on-a-string.
Like a woman who keeps going back to her abusive boyfriend, I pull it close to me at the same time as I push it away… I’m violently repulsed by the foul stench of sweaty black jeans, yet also intoxicated by their musky fragrance. I… I don’t even know what I want anymore!!!
In no particular order, here are my thoughts on punk… what do YOU think??
THE MUSIC
If you could stick an instrument cable directly into the brain of a 13 year-old with fetal alcohol syndrome who is really angry at the world but not sure exactly why, you would have punk rock. Only usually that 13 year-old brain belongs to a 30 year-old loser who works at a gas station, drives a 1994 burgundy Saturn, and collects Frankenberry merchandise. Accordingly, punk rock is rivaled only by “one-man Myspace grindcore bands” when it comes to genres with incredibly low standards. Behold:
When I say “PUNK” you say “CASUALTIES”!! This band is so shitty and retarded it’s seriously like something my friend and I would do for a sarcastic joke if we were bored on a Saturday afternoon, only it’s real and these guys are like 40 years old and have been in this band for like 15 or 20 years :(
There are some questions that seem to be timeless, each generation answering them for itself, it response shaped by the unique context in which it exists. For example, are Circle Jerks punk or hardcore??? I once got in a legit fight with my ex about this topic, she was furious at me for like a week (srs). Either way, one of my favorite bands of all time!
The only thing worse than the the fact that DIY basement punk shows exist in 2011 is when people refer to all those awful, gay art rock bands like Television and X as “punk.” I was so mad when I got tricked into buying these records when I was a kid!!! I thought they were going to sound like The Exploited, but this is like the background music from some early 80s movie about a down-on-his-luck private investigator.
Green Day were punk as fuck back in the day (srs). Obviously their music was always super poppy, but they played tons of shows at Gilman or DIY basement venues with bands like Neurosis, Capitalist Casualties, and shit like this bizarre show with Shelter and fucking Edgewise of all bands. Fun fact: the Spazz song “Thrice The Hiney” is about how Tre stole Max’s drum chair when Plutocracy played with Green Day once at Gilman.
The singer for GBH went up to Alex Bigman at Warped 09 and told him how much he liked the Fight Fair song “Sexyfancymoney.” Also, don’t be fooled by the massive amount of truly dreadful songs in their catalog, they actually have like 4 or 5 really good songs!
On the one hand, there are few bands who enrage me more than Anti-Flag. On the other, it’s really funny to call them ANTI-FAG. So I guess it’s a wash??
Destroy are easily one of the lulziest bands of all time. Lyrics like “Smash the spectacle / Of consumer society / Burn down the mall / Loot burn and destroy / Mall of America / Burn down the mall” are hilarious enough in their own right, but the punchline is that Felix Von Havoc was probably like 26 when he wrote them (I’m sure he would say the lyrics were ‘tongue in cheek’ but COME ON SON you’re not fooling anyone if you’re wearing a bullet belt when you say that). Also, I once saw him outside a show giving 100% non-ironic ‘moshing lessons’ to kids in the grass across the street from the venue.
THE FANS
If you thought the music was bad, wait until you meet the people who listen to it!! Seriously, if you haven’t had the misfortune of spending time around punk rockers, count yourself lucky. I’m not even joking, they are as dumb as rednecks, as dogmatic and reactionary as Tea Party people, as immature as the worst Tumblrslut, as angry as wiggers, and as ugly and embarrassing to be seen with as Juggalos (and also, Juggalos are way nicer). Anyone else who’s been around them as much as I have will confirm in an instant.
That awkward moment when you are proud of being who you are, but “who you are” is really bad
Punk: the only genre whose fans make metal nerds seem intelligent, open-minded, and easygoing.
“Punk is not a clothing trend; please dress accordingly.”
I was going to say, “Not sure which is worse, @narcho-punx or nazis,” but then I realized that I’ve met tons of nazis who were pretty chill, friendly dudes and that every single @narcho-punk is a faggot asshole
When I look at this picture, my first thought is that the Stalinists’ defense is going to be way too good for the Anarchists to get anything started. The only question is if the Stalinists’ forward can stay healthy– he was sidelined with knee injuries most of last year, and without him they’ll have a hard time dealing with the high-pressure offense the Anarchists are known for. Either way, the real winners of this matchup are the fans!!
LOL @ how every scene had at least one “older, rapey punk dude” who was exactly like this
I had kind of let my mind wander and I was thinking about Demi Lovato so I got like a half-boner, but then I saw these SKINBYRDS and my penis not only went limp instantly, it sucked up into my body so fast it made a wet snapping sound kind of like if you stretched out a water balloon really far, then let it go
LOL WE’RE PUNX AT DISNEYLAND EVERYBODY IS GOING TO SHOCKED BY OUR OUTRAGEOUS CLOTHING AND UNCONVENTIONAL LIFESTYLE
Did you ever like punk?? Do you consider yourself punk??? Do you play the Total Chaos track from Punk-O-Rama 2 every couple years in hopes that it’s not as shitty as you remember, then get bummed out because it is???? Which is worse, political vegan crust punx or fuck shit up mohawks-40s-n-Filth-shirt punx???
I like punk. I’m old enough to have gotten into punk proper before hardcore and my favorite kind of hardcore to this day could be charitably described ex-punk dudes trying to play metal. The Casualties fucking suck, but I respect their hustle. No one I grew up with cared about them but they seem to be gods for any fans of punk born after 1986. The politics are laughable but so is the sub-culture it stems from.
Hippies don’t exist anymore, I mean not ‘really.’ Yet post-card punx have been a phenomenon going on 30 years now. You can still find 16-17 year old kids dressed like extras from Mad Max: Beyond Thunderdome and patched up with bands that have been broken sup since before their parents fucked the first time.
I was walking down the street a few years back and saw a kid decked out in head-to-toe punx gear. First thought: “Aww, that’s cute! He’s dressed up like a punk rock person!” Second thought: “Oh wait, he probably thinks he is a punk. Weird.”
That awkward moment when you sincerely think someone’s lifestyle is a costume
the seeds and the standells and the MC5 started punk rock
Oh jesus I went through a punk phase when I was in 6th and 7th grade. I had a shitload of NOFX, Casualties, Dead Kennedy’s and Misfits cds and merch. I remember being super into Punkvoter and leftist politics(this was circa 2003-05). I even bought those Rock Against Bush cds(which have some good songs to this day I gotta admit). But the lolziest part was that I had an emo-rag hairstyle at the time. I thought I was cool at the time but looking back on it now I was just some confused angry middle schooler who kept writing PUNX all over the bathrooms and bragged about being something super beta and whiny. I then got back into punk briefly in 10th grade(07_08) after a mainstream metal/juggalo phase for 8th and 9th grade(srs. Teens and their lolzy phases).Only this time I was all about 90s pop and skate-punk. I even dated this chick who was trying to piss off her parents by listening 2 punk and emo like Anti-Flag, Hawthorne Heights, and Rise Against. Luckily my life changed for the better after I discovered metalcore and hardcore. I soon discovered that politics are just stupid in general and that covering your clothes with studs and patches and dying your hair fire engine red makes no good statement about yourself. So thank you hardcore for showing me the way. However sometimes I’ll rock out to some Bad Religion, Rancid, Pennywise, Rise Against, and The Offspring in between Emmure, The Acacia Strain, and ADTR lol
hey who knew emmure could be a POSITIVE influence in someones life? i didnt, but now i do. thanx emmure.
Emmure always has a positive influence.
If you like Emmure, you’re alpha as fuck because their music is simple, heavy as fuck sounding, and Thanos Reignz delivers alpha male one liners non stop.
If you dislike Emmure, you’re a whiny beta bitch because you care about how “technical” the instruments are and you get all butthurt because “omg d00d theirs like 6 brakedowns per song herrrrp”
^ this
I have no interest in Emmure, but it is absolutely hilarious how pissed people get about them so it makes me want them to succeed.
x1000 ironic song titles rule too (srsly)
…bb b bu.. but I like Devourment… does that make me alpha?
lol @ claiming someone named after a video game character is alpha male.
Comic book character, brah
Have you even read any Emmure lyrics? They’re seriously the most beta shit ever. “I’m probably the *cue 15 year old boy screech*WORST FUCK YOU EVER HAD! *fred durst voice* I apologize”
If that’s what got me pumped at the gym I would shoot myself.
the line about crying to the Bayside CD is mindbottling
garage punk protopunker RICHARD HELL is a punk rock original
metalcore changed your life for the better? jesus man stop scene jumping and just listen to some good death metal for fucks sake.
strong IMN, brah
Lol also that mohawk chick up on the top looks scarily like my most recent ex’s bff….creepy
That awkward moment when you’re a normal guy reading this article on your phone in a room full of punks and they ask you what you’re looking at…
My favorite punk band is Antiseen.
Their old guitarist lives in cincinnati in this weird miami vice-esque art deco condo. Somehow or another he is rich, which i think is hilarious.
Also, i may or may not have him mixed up with the guitarist from the murder junkies. Same difference though, right?
Pretty much. Also there’s Doug from Hellnation’s other band Brody’s Militia right around Cincinnati. Sounds like a fast hardcore version of Antiseen. And they all look like dirtbag redneck Confederacy of Scum guys.
yeah i’ve known doug for like 5 zillion years. nice guy.
Oh Bill Weber lol
The butthurt is strong in this post.
Anti-Flag used to be my favorite band, good music!
Signed, a future ikeacore dadpunk
lol, I don’t mind Ikeacore. Not my favorite though.
Also I live in the Bay Area so the only punk around is Crust Punk and Orgcore…BLEGH!!!! Proud to say I’ve never been to 924 Gilman street lol. Why can’t we be like so cal and have good punk rock thats about skateboarding and NOT about stupid anarcho/political shit, has actual melodies, and wear somewhat normal clothes.
San francisco, the city that humor forgot
Sadly thats true. Oakland and SF major are NFC/Hipster/Crust punk/Tr00 metal head zones. Only good thing about this is that hardcore/post-hardcore shows rarely ever sell out and my love of Emmure has made metalheads from all over butthurt and call me “everything wrong with music today”.
1) In 2008 I lived in a house full of crusties and hippies. Without a doubt it was one of the worst years of my life. I’ve never met a group of people more whiny, selfish, opinionated, lazy, stupid, passive aggressive and filthy in my life. I was the scapegoat for all of the drama in the flat because I was the least punk person there, despite the fact we were living with a fuck up drug dealer who was clearly scamming everyone else in the flat. NEVER FUCKING LIVE WITH PUNKS.
2) I’ve thankfully been able to avoid a ‘punk’ phase, outside of overlap with metal. I remember really wanting to get a “battle jacket” and “reggies” (patch pants) when I was in high school, but thankfully I never got around to it!
3) for all the shit Sgt. D gives metalheads (not normal people who listen to metal, but the METAL UP YOUR ASS!! people) on this blog and Metalsucks, punks are without a doubt far worse. Where metalheads tend to be abrasive because they are awkward/not very smart, when you are actually friends with them they are usually very fun, generous and nice people. None of the ‘punks’ in my local scene could be described like this outside of 2 or 3; all of them (esp. anarcho/vegan/crusty) are incredibly judgmental and snobby drama queens. This is why I never go to shows any more!
4) There are way more legitimate scumbags and rapey men in punk/hippie scenes than many people realize.
5) “The only thing worse than the the fact that DIY basement punk shows exist in 2011 is when people refer to all those awful, gay art rock bands like Television and X as “punk.””
This pisses me off too, but I don’t know anyone who does this outside of sad, oldfag print media like Rolling Stone.
ALL OF THIS x 1 ZILLION
Not gonna lie, I love that second Television album heaps. It’s pretty much a 70′s style power pop record with more ballads than usual.
I dunno man, I can’t get into Television at. all. but I definitely gave it a shot. I always felt like it was a band that I was “supposed to” like, but no fucks given anymore. I also feel the same way about Wire.
thanks for writing this, sarge. your posts srsly brighten my days. :)
Where is the section on the Gainesville/Richmond/No Idea Records dad punks? In Tampa this scene is huge and I can’t stand it. These man childs got to go.
http://www.stuffyouwillhate.com/2011/09/ikeacore-hardcore-for-overeducated-pussies-who-never-actually-liked-hardcore/
REMEMER WHEN THERE WERE PUNX BANDS ON WARPED TOUR???
like Civ and Orange 9mm
Hi Im 20 and what is this?
Not sure if srs; backed either way
Only kind of. I stopped listening to punk after buying a sex pistols album when I was 13. Then I listened to Dookie a couple of months later and released that old punk kind of sucked by comparison.
its a blog on punk rock orgins
The worst part is when you’re talking to some punk fggtz at a show, or wherever, and they tell you you’re not a tr00 punk coz I don’t dress right or some bullshit like that. I mean, why can’t I just express my love for the music without being an arrogant, self-absorbed twat?
Yea I don’t see how spending 9 hours a day on my hairstyle makes me anymore tr00 punk.
1. Good job on this one, practically every sentence in the article is quotable in of itself.
2. First I thought ‘there is no Total Chaos track on Punk’O'Rama 2′ then I thought ‘fuck I’m a loser for knowing that, I’m going to look it up and hope I’m wrong.’ Turned out I was right :(. I think you did that on purpose.
3. Did your girlfriend say CJ were hardcore or punk?
4. Crusties are worse but they are more capable of starting half decent bands.
re: #2 i swear to god i looked on wikipedia to make sure i got that correct haha– obviously i failed, but now that i think about it i’m pretty glad my knowledge of the Total Chaos discography is imperfect
I caught that right away, too. fml
Oh, but i was never into total chaos or the casualties or any of that stuff so i wasnt a complete tool in high school. maybe.
Ya man I love punk! Always can go back to it! What do you think of old and middle era AFI? Some of the best punk ever!
nah bro. nah.
peep lyrics for their song ‘high school football hero’ for some whiny beta punker antics
Well, I sure like the Dead Kennedys, and punk music in general, but maybe that’s because the longest conversation I’ve ever had with a true punk is
“Hey, got any spare change”
“No, sorry man”
I sort of assumed that if they were so easygoing about musical ability they’d be easygoing about everything else (except politics, obviously) but I guess not?
Still like most of the music, though.
I love Punk, problem with punk is there are so many sub genres and most of them are unbelievebly terrible. But don’t get me wrong, i would consider myself punk, my record collection is at atleast 75-80% punk of all kinds. but i don’t dress it, i don’t believe in most of the shit punk preeches like i wear my minor threat shirt out drinking and drugging, i don’t own a leather jacket or plad pants, sadly i bought Doc’s for work, and sometime’s moshing, if i wanna hurt someone.
Also, i don’t get the hipe behind sex pistols they aren’t that amazing, i like them, but i’m pretty sure most sex pistols fans like them for the image that comes with it.
But then again i’m a california punk fan, even though i’m from canberra aus!
http://spartucusjones.hubpages.com/hub/The-Orgins-of-Punk-Rock
the sex pistols are amazing get it right http://spartucusjones.hubpages.com/hub/The-Orgins-of-Punk-Rock
I was really punk for about 4 year then got over it once my friends started getting into crust fuck that shit.. So i went down the metal/hardcore road.. Cause to me hardcore is a punk band trying to play metal you cant have hardcore with out the combo of the two.
i love 90′s skate punk. i grew up on it. but thats not “tr00″ punk i guess. thats like the sellout pop punk of its era.
i hate bands like the casualties (street punx) and any 80s bands (hardcore punx) sound crappy to me (even though they helped influence the 90s skate punx scene).
i hate how in the last 10 years, when the word “punk” is mentioned, they think of the casualties instead of the skate punx bands. oh well.
i will leave this with an old reset video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSRwlI5YHqo
The Casualties in particular are weird to me, because back in the day NOBODY took them even a little bit seriously- they were something like the Brokencyde of punk, a total punchline band: “lol i bought a casualties 7″ for 25 cents, its the funniest thing ever”
The same way here. I preferred 90′s So. Cal skate rock like Guttermouth and so did all my friends. Hated shit like The Varukers. I actually didn’t get into ‘punx’ music until later in life.
Varukers, ugh… bummed that you reminded me that they exist :(
the only good (and good is relative in this sense) uk 82 bands were discharge, gbh and the exploited. any other band was copying those 3 bands with a way inferior sound. exploited were awesomely ignorant. i love listening to them cuz real punks call them nazis or whatever. i just like songs that make me wanna hurt people and punx are not okay with that.
fuck yes, RESET!
Yea 90′s skate punk years. My first concert was one of the two ever New Zealand Warped tours with Reel Big Fish, The Vandals, Mighty Mighty Bosstones, Blink 182, 311 & Pennywise. I missed the second year but it turned into a riot so Warped never came back to New Zealand :(
metal is populist, punk is v. elitist.
explain…
This article is biased as fuck. It looks too much at the stereotypical side of punk rather than going deeper into the genre. You don’t have to dress like an idiot to like punk music… punk has evolved into many sub genres as well making it an incredibly diverse genre… you picking out the casulties doesn’t exactly mean anything as there are many punk bands who make much more conventional songs… kind of funny how a blog that glorifies crunkcore can criticize anything.
You ”really get what this blog is all about”
No fun clubber detected.
Hates crunkcore, but loves elipses…
Who left the screendoor open?
I’m 22 and still rocking to my NOFX, blink-182 and Guttermouth records. When I was in high school pop punk was way bigger than now, and there were many bands ripping off Green Day and blink. Now everybody play easycore, gay powerpop and etc, but I’m probably stuck in sellout pop punk for fuckups era forever and still having as much fun as I want. So when new genre is getting popular, I never feel butthurt or something beacuse I believe there are some dudes who like it in very sincere way, and after 5 years I’ll see them rocking to their Fight Fair.
You’re 22. You don’t get to use the word “still” to describe anything related to music.
true haha
The closest I get to punk is early suicidal tendencies and that is where the fuck I stop.
http://spartucusjones.hubpages.com/hub/The-Orgins-of-Punk-Rock
This is all very true. I laughed really hard at the “dig out that piece of my heart and feed it to some crust punk’s starving-mutt-on-a-string”. It’s amazing how the trend among crust punx to keep starving dogs on strings is nationwide. Do they have babies where you live? It’s awesome to see a group of them raising a child. There were some that would “pan-handle” where I went to College. On more than one occasion I saw them get out of their parent’s BMW to meet up and panhandle.
I was introduced to these two punks in High School. Before I met them my friend told me they were “two real punks.” Which ended meaning “barf on the carpet, and call your girlfriend a whore.” We had to drive them home after that party and they lived with their parents just outside Potomac MD. Which is one of the richest areas in the country. After that I couldn’t take any punk seriously ever.
I too bought an X album after some old dude told me they were the best punk band. That is when I stopped listening to old people. Now that I am an old I listened to my nephew, but now he is getting into his metal phase and listening to everything I listened to 10 years ago. I hope he starts liking Hatebreed soon. I didn’t know until recently that Television was considered punk. I actually like them quite a bit and I think I like them because of your description which is dead on. “this is like the background music from some early 80s movie about a down-on-his-luck private investigator.”
I still love that people that dont get the site show up comment once. Usually about how you love brokencyde and then never return.
OK X started in 1975 and were one of the first punk band there later stuff is crap and the MC5 and iggy and stooges the kingsman and gene vincent and james dean were protopunkers and the word punk means a rebel or a greaser its a teddy boy term from the fifties punk rock started in 1955 a radio dj had a flyer saying interducing the punk movement but he dident think that it would fit into the 1950,s so the term was forgotten untill the late 60,s and early 70,s came along and people were tired of the disco bullshit punk began to rebel aginst disco bullshit thats why punk rock happened to bring rock n roll back to life with a fresh new name and real punk rock is called PUNK R,N,B punk now a days isent underground anymore its mainstream and isent punk rock punk rock was never ment to go mainstream it was desten to stay underground forever punk rockers never wanted fame just a outlet and anyone can be punk rock its just a 1950,s greaser james dean attude greasers in the 50,s had spikes in there jacket skulls and chains way before what came after watch the greaser biker movie the wild one and you will see the true roots of punk rock
I laughed so hard at this I had to stop reading like five times.
mmm, skinbyrds. i’m sorry, D, but i love them. that being said, i refuse to admit to my punk rock beginings. they are a constant source of irritation. i listened to 4 Skins the other day and got mad at myself for wasting any time and/or money on that awful abortion of a sub culture. i remember seeing REM in 1987 and wearing a Misfits shirt to show my punk rock bad assery, it proved nothing to anyone. fuck the punx. still love Destroy Code 13 though.
“mmm, skinbyrds. i’m sorry, D, but i love them. ”
10/10, love chicks that can fight other chicks/dudes and win.
“i refuse to admit to my punk rock beginings.”
ya. so glad i deleted all those photos of me with spiked hair and a jacket with some pins and my first used pair of boots. at least i was actually poor. and there were no punx in my town. still, EMBARRASSING :*(( /r/ chance to go back in time and dress normally like everyone else in school
o but just for shits n giggles im gonna dress like a total piece of shit at my high school reunion in 6 years. fuck my life.
Haha, my picture made it into the album art for the Casualties’ ‘Die Hards’ album. I traveled to NYC from DC to see Vitamin X’s first US show. The Casualties also played, and some pictures of the audience made it into the album.
I take punk about as seriously as I take black metal. The fans are about as dumb as they look and the music sounds like shit. Maybe dressing like that was cool at one point, but if you do it now you’re just a fag.
I really like SLC Punks though. That is a damn good movie.
I guess I’m glad it existed though. Without it we wouldn’t have that movie or hardcore.
At least black metal changes with the times. More hipsters and easygoing non-troo people these days. In Richmond, most black metal bands are easygoing or don’t even look like they’d be in a black metal band, while at the same time, the “punx” are everywhere.
I heard they don’t look black metal because Richmond has a white and black face paint shortage.
It’s because there’s no phaggots like you to make the white parts. Blackface = no go
black metal exist in usa?????????
homosexuality can be encountered anywhere on earth
IM DYING
LOLOLOLOLOL
in ca everyone who listens to/goes to black metal shows is either a crust punk or a hipster
is that canadian skinhead girl drinking a bottle of motts apple juice?
Because we grew up in nice suburbs, my friends and I could never be tr00 crust punks. Looking back on it, that was a good thing.
You are wrong, all the tr00st crusties come from nice homes in the surburbs or richer areas. They’re all kids that heard about “Communism” and “anarchy” in their late teens and feel white guilt for having been able to go the dentist. No one who grows up poor thinks “This is the shit, the only thing that could make it better was if I was poorer and living with homeless people!”
“being broke is sweet, so i can only imagine how awesome it is to be actually HOMELESS!!”
Yea my mate was working in a rich part of town doing building work. Me & my brother went to buy weed from him one day & saw the “Squat” (i.e mansion) the tru punx lived in.
Punk is what hardcore stood against, sure they had some good tunes, but let’s face it, they were jobless losers then and are dorky looking losers now.
I’ve got the positive edge, who’s with me?
Looking into tomorrow, we’ll all have turned to dust.
this is the deepest comment ever left on this blog.
*durst
I was at this punk festival in the UK this summer with all the old punk bands… pretty pathetic to see all these old people dressed up. And the biggest joke was seeing this guy with leftist books selling skrewdriver albums. It’s not a fashion, it’s not about the money. selling skrewdriver for 100 euro was for the money, trust me.
most of the article is correct, just as comments. they are whiny self centered crybabies with a desperate need for attention and a very skewed worldview. if your vision doesn’t fit in, you’re wrong. weird because punk (and hardcore) taught me that I should do things myself and be openminded and push through… I guess i got that quite wrong.
also, what’s up with crust punks and squatting out of ‘political beliefs’ and ruining their own surroundings with graffiti, piss and dirty stuff everywhere? If you squat, can’t you just make it nicer?? fucking idiots.
but the music still makes my blood boil and makes me throw fists up in the air…
Crust punx kinda sound like the Christian Right. They both take what should be a postive message (social equality/love thy neighbour) & manage to somehow fuck it up.
The butt flaps don’t help either.
Boots and braces
The bass player in my studio project band thingy is an oldz from the tr00 punk era. He used to rant to me at work about how awesome old punk like Minor Threat and shit are. Then I burnt him a CD of Emmure, Amia Venera Landscape, The Red Chord and he’s all like “Dude I can’t stop listening to that CD and it’s amazing.”
The closest I get to punk is Municipal Waste.
Oh man I just remembered I have a photo somewhere of me and my best friend at our 8th grade graduation dance. I dressed up in a blue sparkly dress and she dressed up as a tr00 punk with the spikes, plaid jacket, patches, heavy eyeliner and everything. Fuck I need to find this lulzy picture.
the punx does not get along with the throbbin
the worst shit is when punx debate the meaning of “punk,” which ends up encompassing everything ever
“WHEN MILES DAVIS RECORDED BITCHES BREW, THAT WAS PUNK! WHEN COKE CHANGED TO NEW COKE, THAT WAS PUNK! WHEN JESUS GREW HIS HAIR OUT, THAT WAS PUNK!”
I DONT DRESS PUNK, LISTEN TO PUNK OR DO ANYTHING OTHERWISE EVEN SLIGHTLY RELATED TO PUNK BUT IM STILL PUNK BECAUSE I THINK FOR MYSELF EXCEPT THAT I DONT ACTUALLY THINK FOR MYSELF AT ALL
you just don’t get it. you are the man and they are sticking it to you, man.
Weird rapey punk guy picture = serious lulz.
http://tinypic.com/r/2e5pnoo/5
THE CHOICE IS YOURS!!!
So glad somebody else thought to call them anti-fag!
when they toured together back in 2000 or so, we had many laughs making the posters say “Anti-Fag” and “Saves The Gay”
I am shocked and appaled at the punk at Disneyland! What an unconventional lifestyle he must live!
I never had a retarded mohawk or shitty jean jacket with studs, but I used to be in the “punk scene” in High School via playing in a terrible punk/ska band (complete with a rapey old punk vocalist). Amazing how people in the scene look up to the older punk dudes, aka anyone who still dressed punk after the age of 19, when in reality they are some of societies biggest losers/scumbags.
respect what came before
LOL at the first picture of girls stomping on an American flag in a grocery store. Would love to know the back story behind that.
I think I would react violently to them if I was trying to buy some Gatorade or some shit and encountered that.
Looks like their trolling was successful then!
ahaha literally had to look twice to see that they’re actually girls
Young punx stickin it to the man http://youtu.be/VaYHMTlWMzk?t=5m26s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0IZdP3x66Y
really love this version of “victimized” LOL
I saw saw Phobia at Gilman last year. The bass player must have been 40 with pink liberty spikes and a leather jacket :(…theres a lot of punks still in the south bay. Mostly mexicans who pronounce pizza as “pixza” and say “LIAR” in almost every sentence.
is Bruce still playing bass for Phobia? good dude, had a hilarious zine back in the day.
He’s not. I dropped Shane a message on Facebook (we used to exchange snail mails way back) and he told me that a guy named Calum Mackenzie plays for them now.
Yeah the ethnicization of punk should be another post altogether. All the good punk/crustie positions in California that were in the past reserved for white suburbanites are being stolen by Mexis and Guatamalans.
here’s something I wrote for Metal Sucks on that subject (regarding metal, but same idea): http://www.metalsucks.net/2011/08/29/are-latinos-born-2-mosh-via-metal-pesado/
Wow, epic read (srs). Like how you touch on Latino influence on YT Anglos especially in California as well as vice versa. Also you wrote an article about race and music and sociology and it wasn’t completely fucking gay.
haha thanks dude! yeah it’s really hard to write about that stuff without sounding like either a) a faggot or b) racist. I would like to think I came off as both of those at the same time!
I do still own a Disrupt hoodie. DONT TELL MY GF!
Disrupt is sick tho.
My god, I am so glad I missed this scene.
This is my first time hearing both the Casualties and the Circle Jerks. Did people seriously like them?
i love the Circle Jerks :( srs
One of my fav parts of Repo Man is where the Circle Jerks are playing soft jazz in the background of the bar.
lol they must have some merit then
in any case, I don’t get it and don’t really want to.
well you aren’t 30+, so i see no reason why you would/should get it (srs)
Does anyone remember the 90′s ska-punk revival? Remember all the checkerboard shoes trumpets?
Fuck man, I am still trying to forget that.
i still have night terrors where i wake up screaming Cherry Poppin Daddies lyrics
Yeah for me its usually the horror that was the MIghty Mighty Boss Tones or Goldfinger
“i still have night terrors where i wake up screaming Cherry Poppin Daddies lyrics”
LMAO
no but 4srs mexicans are still way into this shit or at least they were just 3/4 years ago in every tiny town in arizona. must be a mariachi influence.
Raise your hand if you own bondage pants…
lol faggot
I like some punk bands for nostalgic reasons, like the Misfits and Dead Kennedys. Then I like some punk bands because they’re legit alpha bands, like the Clash and Ramones.
I can’t get into any punk bands that formed after the mid 90s or so. I still love all my favorites that I got into as a teen.
yeah theres only a handfull of 90,s punk bands anyways that do punk rock true to its roots and that is the toronto punk band the sinisters the lead singer has done projects with dead boys members and members of the punk band the ugly and manny other protopunk rock acts 90,s punk lacks in being true to the original punk sound the stooges,dead boys,MC5,damned,the new york dolls,the seeds,richard hell,wayne county&the electric chairs,the cramps,the demics,the weirdos,the screamers,X,the germs,the dogs,the testors,the mumps,the ramones,the dead milk men none of the 90,s punk bands ever payed homage to the pionneered protopunk sound more like a power pop influence like the knack or the bay city rollers thoes bands sound like 90,s punk 90,s punk has a huge like for power pop and bubble gum pop not hardcore punk i only concider early to late 60,s and early 70,s punk rock as the real deal
did you type this in your native tongue and then put it through google translate??
Punk is mostly unlistenable garbage made by insufferable people. Luckily, it helped inspired bands such as Blink-182 who, with the help of some actual songwriting skills, turned punk’s energy into something melodic and somewhat listenable.
^ this = my entire post in 2 sentences
Blink-182, song-writing skills? I’d say good production is what really made it.
early blink 182 way more a less hardcore punk and over the years became more like power pop as they got better at playing there insterments
greasers were the first punk rockers
no made by people that are sick of shit disco (SMASH THE DISCO UP THE PUNKS)
wow, you know i feel like you’ve only just scratched the surface here. what is so funny about anti-flag apart from them being a generically political and overrated punk band?
mostly wouldn’t get near it now, but there is a whole dimension of insane, drunken, lustful, amazing punk girl hanky panky time that preoccupied way too much of my life for a good couple years.
really love the ‘we are fucking angry’ pic bc of how it sums up so perfectly how much of punk/’radical’ politics is really just about gratuitously emoting/’being outraged’…
anti flag just like the sinisters does punk rock true to its roots anti flag sounds like the clash good job anti flag you are true punk rockers
what about the entire crust punk anarcho subculture/way of life??? way too many lulz for a mere one post/thread…
Green Day played in a little youth centre in nothern germany in 1995 once. I literraly flipped over when I saw the old poster of the show.
the whole idea of punk was that disco sucks and the stooges are a good band any punk band that sounds poppy might as well be disco none of the original stuff was poppy it was raw and intence not wimpy all the 70,s punk bands were into the minimalistic verson of garage rock and that was acid punk no punk band now a days has even hered of acid punk music acid punk was a fuck you to the hippie movement and a new begening im the music scene that became to be known as punk rock
It seems like you really know what you’re talking about. Please enlighten us with more of your bountiful wisdom.
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Sarge, the total chaos track you’re thinking of is actually on punk o rama volume 1, and it’s called ‘riot city’
and i definitely put it on every few years to see if it still sucks! I lol’d at that part of your post!
also ps, I know that cause my mom bought me punk o rama volume 1 on casette after i won first prize in the 7th grade science fair…no shit
Punk’s too political
New Wave is gay
Heavy fuckin metal is the only way
alot of metal bands pay homage to punk rock bands
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nuff said this guy makes me chuckle everytime i see him or hear metro station lmfao
gah didnt work ne who trace cyrus “southern made hollywood paid” i thought he was gay?
I was way into punk around 2001-2003 and then… Anti-Flag.
I went to their website one day and made the mistake of reading one of the many “essay’s”.
That was it for me. It was like the Punk spell was broken and I could see clearly for the first time in years: These guys are full of shit.
It was like a domino effect from that point on.
Personally, I’ve never been a fan of punk rock. I actually barely listened to any, and other than the movie SLC Punk (lol), I had no grip or understanding of what punk was (funny enough, SLC Punk has nothing to do with punk, it’s just an exploration film that modern age kids like though they completely miss the point, like American history X).
In highschool I got meshed in with the goths and “punks” because…. Well, because I wore black all the time and listened to slayer (lol), dying fetus, and eyehategod; so i was exposed to punk music: “GISM”
When those semi goth semi punk half-fags talked about GISM, you’d swear it was like listening in to a couple of middleschoolers talking about making it to second base.
Lawls, punk music in general, lawl.
^ ALL OF THIS
dude check out class of 1984, suburbia, class of nuke em high, and futurkill and class o 1999, thoes movies make slc punk look like a disney movie also surf nazis must die also a good cult punk rock movie slc punk isent a punk movie at all
Gosh… I don’t even know where to start with my music interests. They keep changing left and right!
Anyway, most of the bands that you were talking shit about (the Casualties, Anti-Flag, etc.), I actually enjoy those bands.
What I don’t like is when a punk kid tells me that I am not true punk because I go to a show and wear COMFORTABLE clothes to mosh/skank in the pit. Gee, couldn’t we just listen to the GOD DAMN FUCKING MUSIC?
Fucking elitists!
I enjoy “punk” music but don’t really give a fuck about the “scene” either way, though I probably sway to the side of thinking they’re just silly/misguided. I’d say 95 percent of the punk bands I listen to even if they have the stereotypical politics and everything don’t have mohawks or much of the sterotypical punk image (the mohawked bands I do listen to are mostly goth/punk or that really repetitive 80s British hardcore that is more like second-rate Motorhead metal than punk anyway), I wonder if there’s a correlation. Any post-1980s mohawk punk I just can’t take seriously. Though it was probably just as bullshit from the beginning and all those people probably deserved a visit from Spock’s hand, even if I dig some of the music they made. But I feel I’m pretty bigoted towards mohawk punx.
So that explains the line “Green Day will pay” in Thrice the Heiney. The only other lyrics I can make out without the sheet are “Nordstrom wields the sword.” Great 7″. Still have it.
Back when I was a grind freak, I listened to any and all super-fast blasting bands that I came across, mostly on 7″. I never equated any sort of genre split or fashion to any of it at the time. Years later, I can still pop on an old 7″ and listen to any of the many bands I dig from 15-20 years ago (Infest, Spazz, Capitalist Casualties, Brutal Truth, Despise You, Napalm Death, Agathocles, Meatshits, and many others), and not get any sense of trendy fashion, scene gheyness, or genre pigeonholing from any of it. Funny thing is, I got into Red Chord a few years ago and the same thing happened. I just considered them another heavy ass band with grindcore elements. I still dig them, but they’re now stuffed into a neat little genre with hundreds of other bands, and little kids that I work with laugh at me for liking a “metalcore” band. Hilarious.
i hate punk becuase it sucks, the only good punk is like pop punk and hardcore like first blood, punk metal >>>> punk rock. its a no from me
punk metal is good punk rock sucks, basically
I would just like to say that bands like the NEW YORK DOLLS the dead boys the stooges the dogs unatural AX the boys and the Berlin brats were the real deal in punk rock and I dont care what you say those bands had no gay idiums they were all into original garage punk and some of them even from the garage punk era and they all had groupie girlfriends not gay friends
Im the only real punk rocker left on this planet punk rockers dont like being called punk rockers because of all the weird idiums involved in the word punk they like these terms better to explane there music RAUNCH N ROLL,RAW ROCK N ROLL,DIRTY BLUES,NOISE,TRASH ROCK,GARAGE PUNK,UNDERGROUND ROCK,NEW UNDERGROUND SOUND,NO WAVE,ART.PUKE.DANCE,AND HARDCORE NOT PUNK ROCK WICH IS REALLY A ALIENWARE TERM FROM THE 1950, WICH MEANS (PUNK ROCK)THE MEANING A WORD WITH WHEELS IS WHAT PUNK ROCK REALLY MENT AND A PUNK ROCK STAR WAS SKATEBOARD STAR DONT THINK IM RIGHT WHAT THE WORD PUNK ROCK MEANS CHECK OUT THE MOVIE DOGTOWN&BOYS SKATEBOARD MOVIE ON OF THE GUYS IN THE MOVIE MARK,E,FREEMAN I THINK EXPLAINS THAT PUNK ROCK MEANS A BORD WITH WHEELS
You’re right, nothing in this genre has any musical merit. Fuck The Clash. Fuck Jawbreaker. Fuck Hot Water Music. Fuck Against Me! fucking mohawk havin pussys. All punk’s the same.
All of you are fucking idiots. Punk as a whole should never be summed up by crust punks and overly political assholes. You guys should realize the people in bands like Jawbreaker, Against Me!, and Hot Water Music are just like you, but are actually level headed and don’t preach their beliefs before their music. Hell, you guys might actually agree on some things (outside of your obvious homophobia and narrow mindedness). You should give the music and the lyrics a chance, as a lot of them are not political in any way, and are likely relatable, even for the biggest of assholes. You know why people stick with punk for more than five years? Because it’s fucking good music. Every punk I’ve ever known has a wider musical palate than just one sound. You guys will likely grow out of the music you listen to in a couple years, while the “dad punks” of the world will continue listening to exciting music with quality lyrics and meaning. Give it a chance for fuck’s sake.
i like rudimentary peni. i like the fact that hardcore came out of punk.
this article was as painful to read as a 15 year old “uniform” punk rock is to talk to. I realize it’s one per son’s opinion, but punk rock is at its best when the kids are thinking for themselves and expressing it. If you look back at the history, punk rock was started by the people who just didn’t fit in elsewhere, which is why there is such diversity in the scene. I myself embrace it. I enjoy listening to X and Television on occasion, after all one cannot live on The Exploited alone. But the punk’s “fuck everything that isn’t punk” attitude is just a reaction to the way they’ve been treated all their lives. Most of us outgrow that and learn to respect the things we don’t quite dig, but we also learn to have principles, which will be imparted to future generations.
Punk’s not dead, it just becomes “uncool” every now and then. But I was never one for “cool” I just like what I like.
I used to like punk, but its really lame as shit. Its all a popularity contest where I live. All just a bunch of fucking rich kids who pretend they are poor. Also fuck surf music.
i liek crust punx
crust punk is original punk rock
I hate ********* labels!! any hardcore music with good beat is down with me !!
Fuck off poser. ” though x would be punk rock like exploited but they’re gay ” fucking X is a pioneer punk band. Not only for LA but for America. They’re ducking legends. Not only do you say that, but you go on to say ” Green Day was punk as fuck. ” So X, an original punk band with meaningful lyrics who led the LA punk scene in the 70′s is “gay” but Green day, who’s even old stuff sounds like the teeny bopper shit we have now a days, but brag about being around side ” fucking 88″. Sure x is gay but green day is so punk rock. They play at super punk rock shows like I heart radio.
People like you killed the scene. Get out of punk
early X was much more hardcore punk then there later stuff
An article by a man who tries to degrade punk while also trying to imply that he has punk cred. Please stop.
DIY OR DIE.
The worst thing about punks, by far? The homophobia. This is your blog, man, but the day you get your ass kicked by a “hardcore fggt” it’ll be all on you, and you’ll deserve it.
The sad thing is that I like this site and I think you are pretty funny. You would be just as funny without those particular words, they add nothing to your content or your jokes. Seriously.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6N_Q9PrbF48
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79RUptSPaio
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRtjtl3TGE8
totally right im a fan of punk rock and im sick of the bullshit mocking on punk rock its good music and derserves respect
Thanks a lot for posting “What do you think about PUNK?
? | STUFF YOU WILL HATE”. Imay surely wind up being back for
much more browsing and commenting soon enough. Thanks, Gretchen
http://spartucusjones.hubpages.com/hub/The-Orgins-of-Punk-Rock
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRTwc68O6b8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwB_Mrnwr_8 the wild one the first punk rock movie acording to legs mcneil
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6Ozf_kFW6o futurekill
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DAhIHu7mYE suburbia
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZVcXiUNhRE the vandals
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHltYHfCYj4 class of nuke em high
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFNO0GJa09w class of 1999
cyberpunk is the future
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIeXVfYIsiM&playnext=1&list=PL51698ECF2D8706F2&feature=results_video class of 1999
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUmcp1wo_lI C,B,G,B,s punk rock orgins
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNxURxqIv80 DEVO when they were a punk band
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrbieD2YuB4 richard hell and the voidoids C,B,G,B,s omfug 1979
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alR3OBBMPKs richard hell
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4n6exnzB2I new york dolls
all these links i posted are the orgins of punk rock the way punk rock is suposed to sound like
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyvM8b1B1O4 wayne county and the electric chairs all these bands were tough not wimps punk rock was a tough not poppy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wr9pMnLdvo4 the first punk rock 50,s rock n roll
1950,s punk R,N,B bill haily and the comits theres a rino records comp called faster louder punk rock,s first wave 50,s punk rock and the nuggets is 60,s garage punk pebbles is the 50,s verson of the nuggets http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpqQ5OBaX8U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlZIWg3Z0m8 50,s surf punk
we should publish this page as a book on punk rock called ( WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT PUNK)/STUFF YOU will HATE the toung&cheek history of punk rock culture by hear say and other things important education on the true orgins of punk rock not punk rock bashers but fans of punk rock more less i only put up true facts on punk rock culture none of what i say is bullshit it all started when i said it did in NEW YORK CITY,L,A,PUNK AND ENGLAND PUNK ROCK is forth wave punk rock post punk.
Surely you realize that while part of the concept of SYWH is being able to make fun of things you enjoy, the other part is making fun of people taking trivial silly things like music and it’s genre classifications entirely too seriously. No one cares about what “true” punk is, because it’s ultimately meaningless in enjoying the sounds coming out of speakers. See the first permalinked post up top, “REAL MUSIC”, for further details.
toung&cheek
real punk rockers do so care about othentic sounding punk R,N,B punk rock not this poppy bullshit that is nothing like richard hell or johnny thunders just garbage punk rock is suposed to be raw low fi not poppy there is so certin sound that makes a band a real punk band i know what im talking about on this topic i respect your view tho
Just to clarify, there’s nothing tongue in cheek about making fun of “real punk rockers”. That is an abjectly silly thing to base one’s identity on.
LOL @ how he’s just one more of THOSE guys. :/ kinda feel bad for the kid tho, even though he’s spamming “REEL MUZIK” all over the comments section.
thats because youve been lied to about punk rock its a important movement that people try to say that they were not into girls thats bullshit most punk bands i listen to are all about the girls 100 percent nothing more nothing weird there just trying to make a living in a raw confrontational way alot of people mis read punk rock as not being stright well its all about the girls for them and being tough a fuck you to disco (SMASH THE DISCO UP THE PUNKS) PUNKS NOT DEAD
the viletones were tongue&cheek tough and are true punk rockers
http://pleasekillme.com/top-10-weirdest-rider-requests/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dULE-fhc0eA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dULE-fhc0eA the viletones the last pogo 1978
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oc_wy8KNVXQ the second part of the viletones this video is the punk band TEENAGE HEAD in 1978 real punk rock
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:LiquidSkyPoster3.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j88zsWjmB-A listen to this you dont know about punk rock this tells the punk rock scene the way it was
paris hiliton she is so fucking dam hot i wouldent kick her out of my bed ever
just wait untill a punk rock pioneer gets on this page anyone who mocks punk rock is gonna look very stupid for being totally wrong think they know about punk rock thinking its garbage well fokes it isent garbage disco is garbage punk rock is alot more important then you think alot of fashion and new ideas come outta punk rock
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jar-qmk-bJg S.N.F.U is true vancouver HARDCORE PUNK ROCK ENJOY NO PLASTIC PLEASE ONLY RESPECT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jar-qmk-bJg D.O,A/get out of my life
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jR2YKwSjnSw the dils
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRWunSUmEm4 X johnny hit & run pauline
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWKidzzA2FQ the alice bag band
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJ89-UAS3pA the bags survive
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8jtMQGADdk the screamers live at the masque
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPNO5f4yO_g alan vega jube box baby live
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WqOMPakGCg SUICIDE GHOSTRIDER live
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thGzlfqEVQw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNYjMQB1Vso the ramones
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCRKygSSKhE suburban reptiles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37LgjcfVJjA THE FALL/eat yr self fitter
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-GueNOKolo the saints/stranded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bh9W7j3hpJQ the adverts/gary gillmore,s eyes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=EjNCiAZuXnQ the adverts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1Tb3DT-mjA dead boys
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZty5DTmpMY pere ubu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kC4LqiRoIE8 the cramps/tear it up
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyberpunk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iK0xHGoqOHE locked up metal band
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZ7I_0HvYg4 tales of terror skate or bate
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmJIGSKUfPI canadian punk rock
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsBugR9dpdU ther very best of zed bobcat goldwait did his own stunts and knew tak wan do karte also was in the punk band the dead ducks and the trend
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32sLLXTGQDg the trend
http://pleasekillme.com/legs-mcneil-teaches-the-kids-all-about-the-sordid-early-days-of-punk/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAtchwCJ9rI the MC5 the first punk band
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tHJOmZ0JQA talking heads PSYCHO KILLER OGREY WISTLE TEST 1978
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unV2Du_HyS0 garage punk at the grand old opery
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=j0fZ-KoPmFo the diodes/tennis again
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2gu5uoooug the young canadians auto man vancouver 77 punk rock
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKTAbvsCQD8 D.O.A/get out of my life live 1978
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wdu8MhQ-HvY ALAN VEGA INTERVIEW
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_(band) wiki
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxc-9g9-us0 suicide band live
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCk4krhK70Q pre proto punk band suicide
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=sOsGDZ6p_90 harlots of 42nd street/spraaypaint bandit
best. commentor. ever.
holy. shit.