Generally speaking, if something is popular I assume it’s good. If there’s a new hype band, I check them out because I figure if a lot of people like it, there’s probably a good reason for it. Sometimes I agree with the masses, sometimes I don’t, and other times I’m just left scratching my head going, “people think THIS is amazing??” because I just can’t make myself feel strongly about it one way or the other.
“Bad Timing” is probably my favorite No Warning song, mostly because it sounds like if Sum 41 did an EP of “hardcore” songs. Pretty catchy chorus, but nothing I would really go out of my way to listen to?
That is exactly the case with NO WARNING, who seem to be regarded as some kind of pioneers, legends and trailblazers by hxc kids 5-10 years younger than me. I don’t think they suck or anything, but I guess I just don’t see how there is anything even slightly unique or special about them??
“Short Fuse” is also a decent song, but basically super generic in every possible way, including the title. The 25 Ta Life song by the same name was way better/more lulzy.
Somebody made a fucking THIRTY MINUTE documentary about “Ill Blood,” in which a bunch of people talk about it like it’s “Age Of Quarrel,” “Nervous Breakdown,” and “Break Down The Walls” all rolled into one. Really??!
Like I said, I don’t think they are bad at all, I just don’t get why they were ever a “hype band.” To me they just sound like an extremely generic, but perhaps slightly above average hardcore band that would be track 14 on one of the East Coast Assault comps, sandwiched between forgettable bands like Dare To Defy and Hard Response. I might even make it three quarters of the way through a No Warning track before skipping to the next one!
Wat u think, brahs?? Why do so many kids jizz over this band/album??? Am I missing something, or is they just OK?
the vocalist is in FUCKED UP now. He went from being a vocalist in a generic hardcore band to being a vocalist in another generic hardcore band that sounds like a generic indie band.
oh I think I listened to Fucked Up once for like 30 seconds. I remember being thoroughly unimpressed
actually i think he plays guitar in FU and makes acoustic songs also.
Not sure though.
I dont get the hype about Fucked Up though. Their new album is called, PUNK OPERA, srsly?
Jesus fuck… Embarrassing :/
aw dip you’re right mang. PUNK OPERA is the equivalent of THEATRE OF MAX LULZZZZZZ.
new album is called David comes to life. there’s a interview in hardtimes.ca were ben cook compares ill blood to other classic hardcore albums, is was a hot topic in diff mesageboards at the time lol
linkin park make hardcore music now?
Regardless if you’re into them or not, a lot of the bands of the last 7-8 years wouldn’t exist without No Warning. Some great, a lot bad. Most of the bands who took influence from them didn’t just use them as a reference point, they pretty much emulated them, which is why it’s tough to set NW apart in the big picture. No Warning did this sound really well before every asshole started a band just like them and set the bar for what became considered generic.
Look at Guns Up. One of the biggest deals in hardcore a few years back. NW should have been getting royalty checks from them. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pB-Os6QAQiM
Ill Blood is definitely one of the top ten records of the last ten years IMO.
fair enough– good comment!
Nail on the head. Ill Blood is a banger. Although, I have to say Cruel Hand channels No Warning pretty damn well.
Nail on the head. Ill Blood is a banger. Although, I have to say Cruel Hand channels No Warning pretty damn well.
Tried to get into them a few years ago, got skipped on my ipod everytime
the singer was on that nickelodeon show “are you afraid of the dark”.
ha! i seem to remember someone telling me he was related to Rachael Leigh Cook, but no idea if that is true or not
hahaha this is true! he’s also a multi millionaire trust fund kid which makes their cromaggy lyrics even lulzyer.
but i guess is that chick was my step sister id be pretty angry and frustrated, he’s probably really into dating sims.
i hear he has 100% on every Sakura Taisen game
yeah because people with money NEVER get angry
He was on an episode of Goosebumps too haha!
I like em! They were even better when they decided to sound like Linkin Park. Check out Millenial Reign – Bones Dust Nothing. Members of No Warning and Fucked Up playing Clevo style hardcore.
That are you afraid of the dark vampire movie episode scared the shit out if me as a kid
I don’t really dig it. Not that I’m opposed to newer hc bands (although I only really like two or three that have formed post-2000) but when it comes down to it I’m gonna stick with stuff from the 90s and 80s. That’s what I connected with in my teens and I still relate to it in my own way.
I dig the first song. cbf listening to the other songs by them, so i get how you feel about them.
No Warning became a big deal because 15 year old suburban kids could basically go to what amounted to a Madball show and act like tough guys without actual ramifications. Terror really ended up cornering this niche market. The egregious overlapping overdub vocals on ILL BLOOD honestly make me cringe, but the tunes are pretty solid.
At least Terror are legit fuckups/scumbags/losers… Werent these kids like 18?
Dude, O.G. lineups of Terror included a lot of dudes who were just reg HC kids. TxJ wasn’t really known as a scumbag- more just a dick. Nick Jett was still just a quiet little kid. Guys like Paul DC from Stay Gold and GBNF and Beej were playing shows with them. The Sworn Vengeance guys are two of the nicest dudes you’ll ever meet- Carl is and was a legitimate nice guy with a college degree (and eventually left the band because the rest of the lineup had become such fuck-ups, just after recording all the guitars and bass on OWTU). Vogel wasn’t drinking back then, and lived with his girlfriend of the time- who if I remember correctly was a nurse. Terror cultivated the whole fuckups/scumbags/losers vibe, and took much of what became “mainstream hardcore” with them- and good on them; those dudes work harder than almost any touring independent act had before. The same can not be said for No Warning, who just came and went.
Wait paul dc was in terror?? Whats that guy up to? I always liked him a lot
I wouldn’t say Paul was IN Terror- he played a long weekend of shows with them as a tryout. Terror did a lot of stuff like that in the early on, with guys coming in for a few shows and ultimately not sticking. Paul’s time in the band did spawn one of my favorite TxJ moments.
Backstage at the Ojai Womens Club, Paul is taking his guitar out and warming up before Terror plays, TxJ approaches.
TxJ: “How often do you change your strings?”
Paul: “I just put these on”
TxJ: “Yo- that’s not what I fucking asked”
lolololol i love it!
To answer your other question: Paul is still in Seattle, not sure what all he’s up to, but now plays guitar in Posi Chris’s new band Dead Weight (rad, hard old school HxC- cover Blitz…) who I just saw for the first time last week at Gilman. Chris is singing and Tory from Left With Nothing is playing bass- BriBri is drumming (not sure if you remember him- rad dude, books Seattle HC shows, sings in Sojourner). Yeah, Paul is a great dude and has always been a lot of fun to hang out with.
I run into Paul from time to time up in Seattle, saw him (and every other old NWHC dude) at Cro-Mags, and he was talking about baseball and old people shit. Dead Weight and everyone in it fucking rules.
LOL @ Dare To Defy – we were into them for about 5 minutes. Great reference & point taken. I agree – I found these guys mediocre at best, but maybe, just maybe it’s too easy to pick holes in ‘popular’ HXC when you are looking back from the over 28 demographic?
Ha, glad you noticed- I was trying to think of the epitome of perfectly competent, yet entirely unremarkable hardcore. See also Outspoken or Turning Point.
I know what you mean re: being able to poke holes in hype bands when you’re an oldfag, and to some extent I agree, but I would like to think that I don’t really fall into that pattern like most people our age do? If kids are into something I try to appreciate it for what it is, but sometimes what it is is not that special.
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What do I know, I think Emmure is way better than No Warning and Blacklisted.
It’s kinda funny – Dare to Defy were like the ‘next big thing’ on the East Coast – for like 6 months… then they just dropped out of sight. I think my point was that even a mediocre band, in the right place/right time can hit the right number of kids just the right way – and it’s real hard for us oldz to understand as it’s very ‘been there/done that’ to us.
Also – Boston has this way of building a lot of lasting hype for it’s bands – even when they are just ok… that BHC brand baby!
No Warning is good, the best thing they ever did was Suffer, Survive.
NW is good in the way that I’d listen to them if they came up on shuffle. Cruel Hand rips them off, but are way better and actually have memorable songs.
I think where NW were pretty much ripping off NYHC style, the Cruel Hand dudes are ripping off Kill Em All era Metallica, and just throwing breakdowns in there= way more fun imo.
Straight Madball ripoff. Very average band. Also, how many times can dude from Fucked up say ‘watershed’ in one interview?
Feelings towards this band:
I’d gladly mosh, but I don’t think I’ll be singing along anytime soon.
I never really gave No Warning a legitimate listen, but I knew they were pretty hyped once my buddy got a NW tattoo. Eh, they’re not bad. Definitely reminiscent of Sum 41 when they decided they would try writing metal songs. I’m sure this band was a lot more significant when they were fresh, but right now I can’t get too stoked on it. They aren’t bad by any means, just nothing mindblowing. Also lol punk opera.
i feel like this video isnt so much about how good they were but trying to capture the story of a band that had so much hype and influenced bands like guns up just kind of disappeared. no final show, no reunion, just kind of gone. story of kids who tried to make it. simple
I fucking love the entirety of “Ill Blood”. Not sure what they were trying to do after that. I think that the Linkin Park sound, as well as touring with bands such as Linkin Park and The Used, is terrible.