I saw American Nightmare/Give Up The Ghost/whatever the fuck else they were called a few times, but they were always the epitome of “bands who everybody goes apeshit for, but just make me shrug and go ‘they’re not bad I guess?’” to me. I never got into that whole Boston “tortured artist” scene and was too busy rocking out to 18 Visions and Throwdown in 2001 to give a shit about AN.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKvFqwBOEfA
Every AN song: generic mid-tempo hardcore riff / singer shrieking heartfelt lyrics about how he is sad about something / song title that doesn’t really make any sense but seems vaguely meaningful
That said, I seem to be the only one who feels that way, because from what I can tell kids have been fapping to this band for the past decade, and people are working themselves into an e-frenzy over the upcoming AN reunion shows. In case you haven’t heard the news, you can get more info on their super-pretentious website.
LOL @ how they spell out their full names and say “Boston, MA”/”Los Angeles, CA” as though anybody was confused about whether they meant Boston, Missouri and Los Angeles, Vermont. Even worse: “The location for the Los Angeles show will be released strictly to ticket buyers 48hrs before the show. The location is in LA proper and is being kept a secret until two days before the event.” OMG SO EXCLUSIVE AND MYSTERIOUS!!!!
Are you one of the privileged few who will find out the SEKRIT LOKASHUN??? What does “LA proper” mean, somewhere between the Pacific Ocean and Alhambra??? Are you as lukewarm as I am on this band? Why do people jizz over these guys???


I prefer Cold Cave.
They are much more mature and sophisticated, plus my boyfriend doesnt like music with too much screaming
I’m with you on this. Never got what the big deal was or is. They’re okay. That said, if Modern Life is War reunited at some sekrit gig in rural Iowa, I’d act like a fucking retard and spend a shit ton of money to go. I’m gay like that.
^this
if it weren’t for american nightmare, modern life is war would not exist, faggot.
Srs, one might argue that black flag wouldn’t have existed had american nightmare not created there 100 percent unique hardcore sound. Is it just me or do you think give up the ghost would not have existed either?
some kids like them because hayley williams rocks their merch
Wes Eishold is the dude Pete Wentz fangirls would namedrop when they wanted people to think they were waaay deeper even though they exclusively listened to FBR/Decaydance bands.
This band still kicks ass, though It’s not OMG SECRET SHOW JIZZ-levels of excitement for me.
Eisold is something of an introverted turd…with one hand. That being said, saw AN a couple of times and they put on a good show.
I’m kinda disappointed there was no “guys with one hand” tag on this post.
I’m pretty sure the “secret” location for the LA show is the Echoplex.
I am, sadly, one of the people who is excited for this :(
EVERETT IN THE MOTHERFUCKIN HOUSE
God, this is boring. Openingbandcore
not surprised that people sheep to D’s opinion. I gave it a listen and thoroughly enjoyed it.
Go ahead and trash me, just to give you some fuel, I love Trash Talk as well.
Dude, nothing wrong with liking any bands. The difference between this place and whatever music msg board you came from is that we dgaf about other peoples’ opinions on music, You Like What You Like.
Though ppl who take music too srsly are easy to make fun of, so there’s that.
Bingo- when have i or anyone else on here given someone a hard time for liking something?
Have nothing witty to say. but i dig most of their stuff as long as i dont listen to too much in one go
So the secret location is because they haven’t yet found a church basement or VFW hall that will let them play, right?
Liked their old stuff at the time, can’t listen to it any more, too beta
I was way into the Boston “tortured artist” scene back in early 2000s. Don’t really care about the reunion, nor do I do i have anything bad or funny to say about AN. 18 Visions has stood the test of time better for me.
Wes Eisold only has one hand, right?
I no lie, I had a big boner for this band back in the day (as well as 18V and Throwdown: Euro = not differentiating between scenes). I think they were supposed to have been coming to tour here (UK) but they split and cancelled before I really knew about it.
I still love their music but everything about this reunion seems a bit too artfag pretentious – but maybe they have always been that way and I just didn’t notice back in my tight AN hoody days?
I saw them a bunch of times back when they were around. Never got why everybody jocked them so hard. I mean, I understand why people liked them, after all, they were pretty good. But people in Boston were all into them like they were the Hardcore Beta Beatles when in reality they weren’t as good as some legitimately excellent bands around at the time like Close Call, Suicide File, Shark Attack and some others.
SHARK ATTACK! best Antidotecore band evar
I was also super into backstabbers inc too
I like this band, but maybe not as much as much as most people on the internet who seems to go crazy about these shows
And whats up with the show being on new years eve???
This band definitely falls under the category of “shuffle band” for me. Kinda like filler in your mom’s meatloaf, but on an ipod instead.
my mom’s meatloaf is fucking delicious, srs. especially the end pieces because they get all burned and crusty!
I always enjoyed this scene when I was younger. To me its kind of like entry level hardcore. You listen to this stuff when you first get into hardcore then move on to bigger and better bands. That said, I do still listen to AN every now and then. Not jizzing myself about the reunion though.
i’m no longer 17, so i don’t care about AN
I’m 17 and still care.
Regardless of what you think of the music, the whole secret location thing is a dick move. LA is a big place and it’s gonna screw with people’s plans not knowing where it is. I live in South Florida and if some band said “the ft lauderdale area”, my response would be “well fuck those guys”.
As a south Florida resident, I agree completely, huge dick move. Their fans are probably too busy circle jerking about it to care though.
i dont even know what the reason for a “secret location” would be??? like, what exactly is the harm in announcing details like, you know, WHERE THE SHOW IS?
It might just be me, but I think reunion shows in general are awesome. Mainly cause I miss most final shows from bands I like, who usually break up because they aren’t popular enough to keep going and want to do something else. Always gotta have a little hope they’ll come back and do some cool shit again, even the majority of people don’t really care and didn’t care before.
Also, hope that LA show is at someone’s house, would make total sense to not announce it ahead of time.
I guess Cold Cave isn’t making Wesley that much money.
I always liked these guys, but just liked. Yelling about the girl core has always been funny to me and their cd was the one cd I owned like this.
This whole thing is one of those like… Planet of the Apes things because these guys will always be just some dudes who I caught opening for like, Trustkill bands in the Agora Ballroom. Now they’re a Significant Band, it’s shit like this that makes me hate young people.
“these guys will always be just some dudes who I caught opening for like, Trustkill bands in the Agora Ballroom. Now they’re a Significant Band, it’s shit like this that makes me hate young people.”
EXACTLY. BTW this is how I feel about AFI, who i saw open for Snapcase at the Agora ballroom haha
This sounds like every other band on Deathwish.
The fuck you’d wanna spend new years eve with AN for?
^This. So many forever alones are stoked they have an excuse to not find a date for NYE.
i remember seeing a picture of them in kerrang (lol) when i was 12. i thought they looked like a bunch of boston street tuffs.
No ones mentiones how lame it is they didn’t reunite any time sooner but now all of a sudden with repressings coming they wanna play? Man I saw them with good clean fun in the vets hall santa Cruz basement… It was a bunch of retard edge kids two stepping the set away while Luke Skywalker bounced back and forth on the stage screaming…. Prolly gonna be this but worse cause there will be +30 age edgers reliving their hardcore-high glory days… Fuck this noise… Get 18v to do some fucking shows!! Also Sarge surprised you didn’t mention Dave Peters stint on guitar for them, when he thought he was a vampire haha
Are you an idiot? The repressings are because of the reunion shows. Also, fuck all you 18 visions loving fags
I like Background Music a lot. Never go into the later stuff. Saw them a few times, and they were good. I think it’s stupid they are doing the whole secret location thing. My concert is so underground, it doesnt even have a location. Could this be anymore hipster?
“the location is very… Conceptual. You wouldnt understand.”
File American Nightmare under “Really good bands that are so overrated by their fanbase that they start to fucking suck and seem annoying.” Also: Touche Amore, Modern Life is War, The Wonder Years…
Refused, Botch, and Coalesce also fall into this category for me. I like all 3 bands well enough, but the fanboy reactions on the internet by people WHO DIDN’T EVEN LISTEN TO THEM WHILE THEY WERE TOGETHER irks the hell out of me.
Agreed, but it’s unfair to say someone can only like something fully if they were into them when they were around.
naw! the wonder years and douche amore straight up suck
whatever, I loved this band. never really got into any other hardcore bands like this but I thought they were original and the couple times I saw them they ripped. was bummed I couldn’t get a ticket to the Boston show, also who are these south fla people posting on here? do/have I played in a band with you
Wes Eisold is the best singer in HC, hands-down.American Nightmare redefined music, siglehandedly. Keep talking shit about Wes, he could kick all your asses, with one hand tied behind his back. A.N. still manage to generate interest, you’ve gotta hand it to them. I heard Wes is a big fan of Wino’s (St. Vitus) old band, and that song from “Grease”. Who’s going to see their show, raise your hand?
I like them, they’re just nothing remarkable. Background Noise really lives up to its name though.
Wes gave up a lucrative career as a handyman.
Wes has trouble counting past 15, or so I’ve heard.
Wes is super helpful & always willing to lend a hand when needed.
Sarge: What do you think of the guitarists “Folk / Punk/ Roots Music” project?
http://www.myspace.com/timothycossar
Never gave a fuck about this band when they were first around, never gave a fuck when they split, never gave a fuck when everyone started jocking them like crazy a few years later, and I don’t give a fuck about this either. Not toeing the party line here, I just don’t get it and never have. They’re nothing special.
The weird thing about all this though is that after all these years, this is the first time I found out Eisold only had one hand! No idea how this information passed me by for all these years.
Btw not to be a moralfag, but i didnt make any jokes about his hand because that is a bit much even for an asshole like me. I only make fun of people for stupid shit they choose to do, not for the circumstances they are born into, if that makes sense.
^Backed.
You’re exactly right Sgt., but so far I haven’t heard any of the wise-asses make any kind of underhanded remark, so I’m kind of stumped…
But personally I treat everyone equally bad, no-one is excluded, nothing is sacred, or forbidden evar. I’m either totally amoral, or amazingly egalitarian or some shit. AND I drink craft beer & listen to “independent music”.
Jamey Jasta gives them two thumbs up. Give them a hand.
Okay, I’m done.
Dear Mr. Knee Deep,
Your comment was truly hurtful, your scene-points have been REVOKED. Don’t you get it, if we don’t all take care of each other & show some scene UNITY, then it’s like biting the hand that feeds you…
I think the reunion stems primarily from boredom. You know what they say, “the devil makes time for idle hands”.
The 48 hrs. notice is due to the fact that the band wants to select the best venue possible, they have a very ” hands-on” approach to booking shows…
I decided to wash my hands of this whole thread…but just to finish it off:
Lavos el manos
Manos el cornuto
Hand-sanitizer
The Hidden Hand
Hand-jive
Shop Class
Hand in the cookie-jar
Looking for a handout
Hands across America
Caught red-handed
Hand-job
Band of the hand
1/2 off on a 5 finger discount
Hand-crafted
The hand of fate
Handsome
Also see:
Cold-Rip-off-of-Interpol-ripping-off-NewOrder-Ripping-off-Joy Division-Cave
I got a ticket so i`m gonna go. I saw them a bunch back in the early oughts but it`s been a while since i went on a roadtrip so i`m off to boston
Wes “single-handedly” changed the face of hardcore. I read that somewhere and instant Lulz ensued. I love Background Music but its not enough for me to pay some ridiculous scalped ticket price for this band. Also. I hate Cold Cave. Now if someone could talk Colohan into a Cursed reunion…
There is nothing I’d rather do then spend my new years with AN.
So fuck you.
What Boston Hardcore bands do you like?