Anon asked: Question, does complimenting a girl unconditionally count as whiteknighting?
The short answer is that it depends on who you are. If you are an average schmuck (ie not in a band or otherwise scene-famous), then yes. On the other hand, if you are a band dude/otherwise scene-famous person, then unconditional compliments that would normally be pure fail can actually be a powerful tool! Let me explain:
Everyone knows that girls lap up male attention like a dog eagerly eats its own shit, so on paper it seems like flattering them would be a great way to get in their pants. But it’s not that simple! You see, the real key to understanding women is that they always want what they don’t have. This isn’t some misogynist, PUA bullshit, it’s just the truth. With that in mind, you can see the problem with WKing: as soon as they know they have your attention, they lose interest.
Documentation:
Fig 1, Typical example of some poor asshole who thinks that WKing will get him laid, when in reality all it will do is make a bunch of groce/fat girls befriend him, which will in turn make attractive girls see him as a fatty magnet and therefore a low-value male. “It’s society that’s ugly” = severe facepalm.
Fig 2. Here we have an especially advanced case of WKing in which the victim is one of my celeb crushes, Jamie Eason (<3 u Jamie, holler at your boy). Her ability to make desperate losers think she isn’t repulsed by them is impressive– usually only strippers are that willing to trade their dignity for a stranger’s pocket money!
THIS is problem with WKing: what any attractive girl thinks of dudes who have so little game that they resort to showering awkward, unwanted/unwarranted compliments on girls they barely know
On the other hand, WKing DOES work if you are in a position of power! This is because it makes you seem like you are not only a powerful alpha who they must mate with out of biological necessity, but also emotionally available so you can make up for the mental weakness that all women suffer from (eg crying at work– fucking lol). As long as you remain just a bit out of reach, a little WKing from a powerful man just makes you that much more desirable!
“All Time Low are so amazing they really care about their fans get in my pussy Alex!!!”
Sure, he sounds like a huge fggt, but this nigga is drowning in Tumblrslut pussy because “OMG HE’S SO INSPIRING.” I can’t hate!! But don’t make the rookie mistake of thinking that just because it works for Craig Owens that it will work for you– instead, check out the next two examples for some techniques that will be much more effective for regular dudes like us.
Classic example of negging, aka “lift then drop.” You first make the bish think you are flattering/WKing her, then follow it up with a semi-playful insult. The trick is that the insult has to be sincere enough that it stings just a bit, yet not so sincere that it pisses her off- you want to make her feel like she’s not good enough for you, and needs to work to earn your approval!
This is another great technique: letting the bish know that you aren’t falling for her entry-level tricks like all the other dudes do. Not only will this make her feel like she is inadequate, it has an added bonus. You will get tons of e-brofists from other dudes, which will make her even more into you.
Did you ever make the mistake of WKing??? Have you ever actually gotten laid via WKing?? What is the lulziest example of WKing you have seen? Was your Halloween costume Sir Fapalot of Whiteknightia??
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nice post! and thanks for the tips!
I’m thinking you can swap band/famous for having the reputation of being a dick/player. Definitely been laid on the “I’m the only one he shows his sensitive side to” tip.
true story- as long as she “feels special”, it will work.
Verified via my roommate’s game.
Day 1 Desiree Elyda is a SLUT!
Day 2 Guys, leave Desiree Elyda alone.
Day 3 Man Desiree Elyda ruled. Remember when she posted here?
Dana Dearmond graduated from BCO to Joe Rogan’s podcast
Maybe that’s what’s holding up the Community porn parody. Been waiting months.
Great post. This should be required reading for all high school freshmen.
pro tips as usual homeboy.
Worst case of WKing I have ev er seen was myself a few years ago. I was crushin bad on this babe from work. So we started talking, and I made the mistake of not following the tips above. I complimented too much, went out of my way to help her, etc.
This went on for months…MONTHS…then she left and went somewhere else. We were still friends for the longest time, but I eventually (finally) felt my nads drop down and went on about life…ironic part is that i ran into her a few weeks back and she is dating a bro who is bald, witha beard, and is into hxc…dude is my clone…
I about y u no’d .
I fit that description pretty well too bro.
No kidding. I hardly ever WK’ed my wife when we were dating for our 5 years before we tied the knot (thus ending any potential cock I would get) and it had positive results. She fell for everything, thus marrying me, thus finding out Im a d-bag when it comes to anything romantic, falling for the whole “massage for sex” negotiations”, and buying her things. WKing always fails, there is no example of it working other than what Sgt D pointed out above. Sarge, when you are dishonerably discharged, whoever takes over your post, they better bring some sort of blowjob pizza to really make an impact, otherwise, no one can ever replace you.
Next level WKing right here ^^
Oh and that first kid in the gif. I wanna make him go on that A&E show where they take the bad kids to the prisons and show them hard life or whatever. That or take him on Hoarders and push one of those old person’s lifelong collections of lizard skins over on him, crushing him into oblivion. That fucking show always has old people.
Show him a picture of a middle-aged brony. Tell him “you probably won’t get half the ass this guy’s gotten if you keep this shit up”.
That’s a guy?
you need to write a book filled with your infinite wisdom on women, drugs and such
pretty guilty of this in my younger years. WKing has resulted in getting ass a few times, but usually only works with small town girls with super low self esteem.
But what if you try not to get sexual pleasures from your WKing but do it becuase you actually want so to help someone?
E.G. defending a chubby girl that gets piscked on at school even though you don’t really feel the need to get in her pants either?
*because
*picked
Retardation struck me hard today.
in that case you aren’t really WKing, you are just being nice to someone who deserves it aka being a decent person!
this clears up sooo much. xD
if you refer to a woman as “spunky” you should be tarred and feathered. that seriously made me cringe when i read it.
btw if you want more of that dude, here is the Misc thread I got that pic from: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=139351433
noooooooooooooo lololol. my mouth was open in horror scrolling through alla’ that
lol I was reading this last night!
Dat bloated stomach pic = WTF!?
These threads are unarguably the best of the misc.
invalid link :(
e-brofist
sgt where do you draw the line of WKing or alphaing when trying to wife a girl and not just stab guts?
follow up post?
If you’re talking about actual marriage, it no longer becomes about tricking her/ making her feel good, it’s about demonstrating your worth. Marriage is NOT just about love, it’s about knowing you will significantly improve each others quality of life. If you want to wife a girl purely out of love and not be capable of contributing to her stability, you may as well be Stedman Graham aka Patron Saint of WK Betas.
Sergeant D + GIANT purple crushed velvet hat = Mystery.
What’s next homie, NLP? Culinary arts? How to get red wine stains out of white linen?
Andre referenced “negging” a few episodes back on “the League”, but in the context of forgy-man-crush pro-sports-stalkery…
don’t forget the goggles and eyeshadow
I believe WKing is even worse when you do it for your gf/wife cause you run the high chance of becoming the woman in the relationship or losing her via being a pussy.. just go with the carrot and stick method without being abusive or an ass
this
D, didn’t you say being nice to your GF is not whiteknighting?
well there is “being nice” and there is WKing… being nice = “your new haircut looks good.” WKing = I LAID A PATH OF ROSES FROM YOUR CAR TO THE DINNER TABLE WHERE I BAKED YOU A PINEAPPLE UPSIDEDOWN CAKE. WHY? BECAUSE ITS TUESDAY AND I LOVE YOU!!!!
ah so white knighting can also be known as being a clingy, overzealous fggt.
bingo
this is a dangerous trap to fall into because i’ve noticed that women will sometimes CLAIM that they want the roses/pineapple upsidedown cake treatment. especially after watching a chick flick. or when their girl friends brag about their omega male husbands doing this kind of crap for them. resist.
i wish it was as easy as just doing what they SAY they want, but it’s not– you have to manipulate them, they give you no choice.
Hahahaha, this is so bang on it’ ridiculous.
Although, tumblrslut pussy isn’t tangible pussy. It’s “I would! But I’d totally freeze up prior to smashing” pussy.
Oh I could write a book about all that encompasses white knighting and how utterly inefficiant it is at gathering pune. Luckly I’m writing an actual book about being a complete asshole the, more so than not, is outlined from my own escapades as being an asshole and stocking my harem filled with girls who have behavioral issues (you know, the fun ones).
You forgot one Facebook white knighting that is always a classic for betas: “I wish I could like this picture more than once.” that one always makes me lulgasm in my bellybutton.
chuckled at “pune”
WK’ing got me all up in there with a handful of 7-8′s. but this was a long time ago when i was like a baws amongst the Tr00 punx around here… now i’m just an alcoholic loser typing this from my job at the library and therefore realize it will get me nowhere so its been long kicked to the curb. it working in a sorta position of power is dead spot on, i never thought about it like that.
The most embarrassing example of white knighting I had ever seen happened this weekend, via my best friend. We were at a Halloween party smoking weed with the most smashable girl there. She was dressed like Beavis and was wearing small ass shorts, keep in mind its like 50 degrees out so its a little chilly. Out of nowhere this guy fucking takes his jacket right off his back and wraps it around her legs because “he thought she looked cold” hahaha. She gave him the most awkward look and didnt say anything, it was hilarious.
eww. EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW. so much fucking cringe in this!
ha! he should have said something like “so are you regretting your slutty costume yet?” and laughed
OMG i’m with jake. i cringed. that is incredibly awkward. gross.
I just had an epiphany. I used to be a white knight. Thank god I stopped that lame shit.
Don’t even bother white knighting. Look good, be a douche, get laid.
I forgot to ask when exactly the Smirnoff Ice & Rufinol comes into play?
when time for raep
Lolz at women crying at work!
This always ended with me balls deep back in the hOllywood days…” wow ur super hot! Too bad it’s ruined by how u dress like a scene slut”…. They would then debate why I was wrong while continuing to buy me drinks until finally she was having my throat babies in the parking lot
Lost it @ “Throat babies”
Aaah!! I was Wking so hard this weekend. Probably the wors Ive ever done. I kept saying that this chick I was talking to had really nice eyes. I was drunk and I couldnt stop doing it! #fuckingfail. Thats pretty much the only time I Wking is when drunk.
I’m so embarrassed by this white knighting, that I have to post it anon.
There was this chick I was into during college and we’d hung out a few times. One time, I was at her dorm and she asked me to highlight her hair. During my high school days as a spiky-haired drunk punk, I had bleached my hair numerous times, so I figured it couldn’t be that hard. When I was finished, she thanked me and said it looked really great. That was it.
ouch. feelsbadman.flv
I always call this girl and slut and whore and abuse her in front of her mates. Yet when I text her she tells me to stop… I mean what the hell is that about?
Also at parties if a girl is dressed slutty, just tell her again and again. And again. Still working on perfecting it atm.
Sounds like you are definitely moving in the right direction…
Whiteknighting is forgivable in real life. I mean, sometimes people say/ do stupid shit. But when you get on facebook and like every single one of some girls non-slutty profile pictures and then proceed to like the post that says “Hot Girl changed her relationship status to “single”, that shit is premeditated and you must be stopped.
good point– online, you have plenty of time and opportunity to choose your words carefully, so there’s no excuse for publicly shaming yourself like that
brb spending 20 minutes crafting the perfect facebook comment for my crush’s new profile pic
XFD
Always be an asshole on the internet.
I contend that whiteknighting is ok sometimes even helpful OCCASIONALLY but those occasions are few and so rare that only the true natural Alphas seem to know when it’s appropriate and to what extent. 99% of guys do it way too often and go wayyyy too far. Unless you’re the smoothest motherfucker in your state (and you’re probably not) then stop polishing that armor.
I’m going to say “no” unless it’s as D said and you’re in a position of power (in which case, it isn’t even viewed as WK’ing by others but as a sign of how in control of shit you are). At any rate, another hallmark of WK’ing is how non-sexual it is. Note how they’re just listing personality traits and just saying “you’re beautiful!!!” Big fucking deal. The 1% you are listing here is so sexually charged, it can hardly count as WK’ing. It’s just playing according to a girl’s mood while keeping your agenda (aka smashing the bish) intact.
We are the 99%
i remember my white knight days and i still have nightmares. im a pretty nice and chill guy i think, but i have to perfect my douche role
That was my problem for the longest was that I’m so chill normally that it was kind of hard for me to not WK. I’d do it subconsciously.
I’ve pulled that friend zone trick from earlier before though. A girl I’m friends with was bitching about something while she was sitting next to me at a party and asking where all the good guys are, my response was something to the effect of “In the friend zone where they are never heard from again”
The standard remedy to WK’ing is 6-pack abs and 75k+ a year. It’s pretty much impossible to give a fuck at that point, your brain won’t even let you contemplate WK’ing some 6.5 for the chance at a pity smash.
ask a guy who is in the “doesn’t need to WK club” anything
yeah, wish someone had told me to knock this shit off last year. Oh well, probly wouldn’t even have listened back then :(
i never WK’ed because im a scummy piece of shit ha but now that im crushing on this girl who told me she liked me i cant stop. ive become a knight of the white table….save me D…..save me
correction….i never USED to whiteknight because i was scummy and so were my girlfriends. this bitch isnt scum though ha so im trying to not be scum and i feel like it looks like im trying way to hard
Pro-tip: she’s into scummy dudes, you stop being one and she’ll find a replacement.
BOOM
I KNOW THAT FEEL BRO
If I wasn’t married I would probably put these tips to the test… Definite cringe factor with some of those facebook stauses…
It sucks that the how to talk to girls threads seem to get the most comments because they are my least favorite part of this blog. No matter what, they always sound like creepy PUA advice threads.
i know what you mean, but the simple fact is that this is just how it is– women FORCE us to act like this, because it’s the only thing they respond to
also, PUA culture is the funniest fucking thing ever
I don’t see the connection. PUA advice threads are usually like “DID I USE ENOUGH NLP ON HER????” or “Is -X creepy story meant to make girl horny- good enough to trick her into sleeping with me???” This is just straight up good advice (aka don’t be a desperate, clingy beta).
can we discuss how ridic hot Jamie Eason is??
I was just about to get on that. She is a walking kegel exercise..
She is quite beautiful, but didn’t you make a post last week saying how OTW women are your thing? Is she the exception?
To clarify, my lady made me realize that i love sisters just as much as other women. I use to have a strong aversion to black girls because i thought they were all confrontational. Turns out I was simply hanging around too many hood rats and not nice ones like her (i.e. wifing material).
That said, I also have a thing for muscle bishes. but not steroided cattle heffers. Girls like Eason; rock hard sculpture body but with a pretty lady face. I also dig meaty softball player chicks cuz you know they can take a dick.
I’ve been driving this girl I like home for the past few days and stalling my own return home for twenty minutes. Unnecessary white knighting or just doing a nice favor?
Tell her “Ass gas or grass” next time you drop her off. A friend of mine totally got that to work after driving this one chick home from work a couple times.
offer her a handkerchief and ask “Does this smell like ether to you??”
Brilliant! Thanks for the tip bro. *E-brofitst to make you seem like an alpha and get more pussy&
I’ve always been a huge douche to girls. Even when they got to the point where they wanted me, I was still a douchebag to them. I just didn’t give a fuck. My wife somehow decided she wanted to marry me and I was like “Whatever, as long as I can buy gear and still go to the bar with my friends.”
I wish to god i would have read this post Last year. The girl I really really wanted I wknighted the hell out of and she lost interest. The girl i was just dating to gut stab I was a total dick to and as a result she got super clingy super crazy and guts were stabbed but she faked a 3 month pregnancy complete with fake ultrasounds
backed hard as fuck ;)
The thing that really sucks about girls liking guys who are assholes to them is that sometimes when I really genuinely hate a girl because she irritates the fuck out of me, she ends up liking me due to me being a massive prick to her. Then I tell her that I really genuinely hate her and hope she dies and then she says something “Oh my god, you’re so funny!” Fucking hate that shit.
Maybe with girls like that I should start telling them that they’re so amazing and gorgeous so they’ll be repulsed by my beta behavior and start leaving me alone, it just might work.
lolololol i never thought of that, good thinking tho!
WK= friendzone, and even that’s best case scenario. Be funny, but for the most part just be nice. And don’t shy away from being kind of a dick if you know it will be funny.
“always want what they dont have”
Then when they get what they dont have, they “miss” what they had before.
“don’t talk to me!!”
“why aren’t you talking to me??!”
ever one chuckles at pune… It’s a highly underused word in our vernacular.
*everyone does
I can safely say I have never white knighted in my life. Not that it’s helped me at all but y’know, at least I never sunk that low.
I have a hard time believing that the kid in the opening .gif is a male. WTF are they feeding white kids these days? ‘It’ looks like a dyke from my world history class.
i think it’s Link
At first, I was like, “Pffft, acting like a douche would never work.” Then I thought about it…and yeah, it’d probably work on me and most of the girls I know.
WKing is just goddamn annoying. When guys get clingy, I’m going to run away as fast as I can; when there’s a lot of unnecessary complimenting, I’m going to start reaching for the rape whistle; and if a guy starts sticking up for me just because I’m female, I’m going to get pissed off because he thinks I can’t take care of myself. Girls are mostly super paranoid about a guy’s intentions: being nice is fine, but being ridiculously nice and WKing can easily cross the line into “he’s creepy, and possibly a murderous rapist who takes orders from his dead mother” territory. If you act like you don’t want us, then we think we’ll be relatively safe with you. If we have to chase you, then we feel like we’ve got more control over the situation, and we feel better about it. Getting chased is largely unnerving.
It’s fucked up, but it’s just the way it seems to work.
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Nothing worse than a bunch of people WKing on some bish’s typical half-naked picture complete with caption of “OMG I look so disgusting.” Favourite thing ever to post on those is “Well, at least you’ve got personality, I guess.”
face of an ugly girl, personality of a hot one. bad combo!
I have the worst drunken WKing problem ever, and I’m not very good at being as asshole when I’m having a one on one with a girl, any tips?
drunken WK is just drunken behavior, preferable to getting mean or sad. Try not drinking enough to even feel a buzz when you go out and see how you handle it. if you are drinking because you can’t get sociable without it,… You don’t try to be an asshole one-on-one, because that is when you show your sensitive side. What gets called asshole is usually someone who stands up for themselves, has their shit somewhat together in a way that is not worth throwing away to be a friend zoner. This is why they say women force us to be that way, you have to earn the label without aspiring to live it out.
Does telling a guy that he’s maybe going a little too far and should chill it when he says a chick deserves to be raped and/or murdered because of some seemingly innocent thing she did or said qualify as white knighting?
That depends. I’ve been playing video games so long that words like “rape” and “faggot” mean something completely different when I’m with my bros. I will however censor myself around one of my buddy’s girlfriends who was raped. It all depends on the context.
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