Let’s talk about EARLY00sCORE and MID00sCORE

I hate it when people are like “MUSIC NAO SUCKS IT WAS SO MUCH BETTER BACK IN THE DAY,” but lettuce be cereal: sometimes there really are periods where music in general sucks shit. The hardcore scene circa 1988-1992 is a prime example (see Amenity, Mean Season, and Outspoken if you don’t believe me), but IMO 2000-2005 or so is an equally barren wasteland in the -core timeline.

I like to think of this period as hardcore’s “awkward teen years,” where it wasn’t really sure who it wanted to be so it got a stupid haircut and walked around being bitchy to everybody for no apparent reason. It was kind of stuck in the middle of the transition from the “real” hardcore/emo/screamo of the late 90s to the polished, accessible scene/Disneypunk bands of today. The result was that it was neither heavy nor melodic, just kinda in the middle.

Remember back in 2002, when bands could be popular even if they were hideously fucking ugly? The guy on the right seriously looks like he’s had reconstructive surgery after some horrible industrial accident and is just happy to have a nose again- the rest of the guys aren’t much better

As an extremist, that’s a problem for me. In the same way as all the 88-92 hardcore leaves me cold, I essentially couldn’t get into any of the bands that came out in the early/mid-00s because it’s all whiny faggotry over boring riffs that go in one ear and out the other. There’s no brutal mosh like Hatebreed, no huge catchy choruses that you want to sing along with in the car when you are cruising with your bros like FTSK, just a bunch of annoying emo fggts talking about how sad they are over jangly, weak riffs. NO EXTREMES = WACK.

Here’s a couple of the 00sCORE bands that remind me of the bad old days of 2001-2006, check them out and tell me how you used to love this band in 10th grade and that I’m not giving them a fair shot because ‘they helped you get through a lot of shit’:

I didn’t like From First To Last back then, and I like them even less now. IMO this band is the epitome of 00sCORE: Super corny, angsty lyrics about being sad, bland riffs that go nowhere, and everyone in the band looks like a fggt of the highest order. The only remarkable thing about them is that their singer turned into Skrillex, which I guess makes him the only person to be an annoying scenefag in two different generations of music.

Can anyone prove to me that From Autumn To Ashes and From First To Last aren’t actually the same band?? As far as I can tell there is essentially zero difference between the two?

I really wanted to like The Used, because the singer seemed like a cool guy and was a huge fuckup/drug addict but I just couldn’t do it. Too much dramatic, homosexual shrieking, too much stringy long hair, and too many fat girls squeezing into their shirts from the discount rack at Hot Topic.

Now here’s a band I can get behind: Atreyu. Although I think “Lead Sails, Paper Anchor” is their best album, it came out a little too late to be considered mid00s core IMO. In any case, big ups to them for pioneering glamcore, being all around good dudes, and putting Krystal Steal in this video!

Anybody remember JamisonParker?? I actually kinda like these fggts :( Also, they were huge undercover creeps: I did a video interview with them in 2005 or so and the singer made a super, super creepy “joke” about how he was a statutory rapist, but their manager made me erase the tape. Also, this fanmade video is really cringeworthy/awesome.

As I recall, Story Of The Year are fairly legit hardcore dudes from the St Louis scene, and even though the lyrics are super WHITEKNIGHTCORE, I’m into it. Also, they have another album from 2005 called “In The Wake Of Determination” that was pretty sweet melodic hardcore- check it out if you liked this single.

I have never understood the appeal of Underoath, especially this incarnation of the band which was neither heavy like their early shit or somewhat catchy rock like their later shit. Also, this video is gay as fuck- I love how this was when people still made “real” videos, which meant that they spent too much money on some hack director who knew nothing about the band or scene and came up with some retarded piece of shit like this.

It’s really funny to me how Thursday is considered a legit, “seminal” band now, because everybody hated on them and called them posers at the time (although I never accused them of being posers, just fggts who made shitty, dull music). I haven’t watched this video in like 8 years, and I forgot how shockingly ugly the singer is. Maybe him and the guy from Hawthorne Heights can have an “I KNOW THE FEEL, BRO” hug.

Dudes in Thrice seem like really good guys, but I never got why people jocked this band so hard? From what I can tell, people think they are “really talented musicians” who “push themselves to do something different than all the other bands,” but it just sounds like directionless ‘hard rock’ to me.

I’ll close with Matchbook Romance, who are another one of the few 00sCORE bands that I got into at the time. I actually got introduced to them by my former BFF who loves this band. He’s currently locked up for murder (srs) and I know for a fact he jams this in his cell with no fucks given- backed hard!

Wat u think about 00sCORE?? What bands define this era to you? Can someone explain the appeal of this stuff to me????? Who is more annoying, Sonny Moore or Bert McKraken?

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172 Responses to Let’s talk about EARLY00sCORE and MID00sCORE

  1. KeepinitCurrant says:

    I was still listening to classic rock and transitioning straight into liking death metal during this time period, so I missed all these bands. IDK if you’d consider that better, but at least I had the benefit of not going through a “scene” phase in middle school/freshman year

  2. BrayseLaygz says:

    i prefer FFTL after skrillex left. they were still super mediocre but at least the songs started to get super catchy. never got into underoath as a angsty teen but im lovin the direction theyve gone in with the new album. the used had a couple pretty cool songs that were a little more sinister and less complainy (thats a word now). ‘choke me’ and ‘my pesticide’ i think were the two main ones. im no authority on this genre though i wasnt into it when it was big. i liked seether and drowning pool instead…which is way worse…i dont wanna talk about it.

    you’re dead on with the description of the genre though. no gimmicks or catchiness, and no musical proficiency either. thats a recipe for wasted time.

    • Sergeant D says:

      “let the bodies hit the floor” is a legit good song- super catchy and well written (srs). i also love saliva “click click boom”

      • BrayseLaygz says:

        as cheesy as it is you’re absolutely right for not denying that songs moshability. the albums after that are pretty embarassing though. probably because they replaced the dead chubby guy with dudes who pronounce every word like every vowel = the letter R. because scott stapp is an excelent role model.

      • Gauks says:

        I always think of that song when hearing the UFC and ultimate fighter theme songs. MMA-core?

  3. jmt says:

    Does anyone else love that guitar skreatch at the end of the soft part of “Untill the Day I Die” (at like 3:05)? To me, that’s always what made the song great, sad middle-school-crush lyrics be damned.

  4. Walker says:

    I never got into this stuff, I was too busy being obsessed with terrible Nuclear Blast metal when this was cool. Also, I went to a poor high school so I wouldve been mocked to shit for liking it anyway.

    I think you made a pretty big misplay by leaving MCR and Fallout Boy off of this list; IMO they are the first band that comes to mind when I think about 00score. How long do you think it will be until tumblrsluts start non-ironically jocking MCR and FOB? Will there be a ‘Defend true emo’ trend in merch in 2014?

  5. m00k says:

    I love all this garbage so much.

  6. Rebecca says:

    Personally, I prefer the term “fashioncore” for this era. I used to love Atreyu!

    • Sergeant D says:

      imo fashioncore was its own scene- atreyu, 18v, etc. I just remembered OC kids who had the “FASHIONCORE” shirts with a skull and crossbones, but the bones were replaced with scissors haha. the days when everybody went to hair school!!

      • RJG says:

        There was some psycho Evangelist Christian (is that an oxymoron?) dude who owned one of those billboard trucks with Bible quotes on it that would drive up and down Lincoln Ave. in front of Chain screaming at all the fashioncore kids about going to hell for listening to devil music. Also, everyone had OC KILLS shirts or a PIRATE RECORD COMPANY shirt (no sleeves.)

        Local examples of the OC mid-00′s malaise would be: Scars of Tomorrow, Forever I Rise and Welcome to Your Life.

  7. Derp Derpson says:

    I reckon this era rules, so many great hardcore/metalcore albums came out during these years… 00score seems like the wrong term to use imo! All the bands you mentioned were considered ‘emo’ in my hood

  8. OBEY1019 says:

    I never really loved any of these bands but I like a couple tunes from the used and atreyu has some cool songs….and you basically nailed it with Thrice lol.

  9. luke says:

    sry broski, this is literally my exact shit almost from top to bottom here. Big upping theused/FATM/UO/atreyu + like a couple jams each from every other band here. None taken.

  10. Anonymous says:

    What about Senses Fail?

    • Sergeant D says:

      Also Finch, who i kind of liked

      • xStizzy says:

        Finch was actually pretty catchy.

        • Ian says:

          Finch had 3 good songs on that one album until they started sounding like Nine Inch Nails. Senses Fail were pretty okay esp that song about diggin up bodies and solving mysteries.

          • VyceVictus says:

            The first 20 Minutes of What it is to burn is some of the best alt/poppunk/protoeasycore in exeistence.
            Try this during your next Interval sprint HIIT workout: Use track one in your warm up phase, and then use the amp-up of tracks 2-5 to accompany your burn. The soaring chorus of Awake will push you through that last couple of minutes. Almost exactly 20 minutes will have past. At this point cool down with the down tempo track 7 and rousing chorus which congrtulates you on a job well done.

      • jorbams says:

        My buddy played sax in a lvl 5 ska band called Face First. Somehow, they ended up hanging out with one of the guitarists from Finch one day. They were at his house and apparently the dude just kept listening to his own albums and talking about how awesome it was. This was around the time they were putting out their first full length on Drive-Thru so I guess dude had a major boner because Drive Thru would be around forever and make him millions.

        Idea for a post: Labels (like Drive Thru) that were huge for a bit and then shit the bed and/or labels that totally changed up their format (Victory, Vagrant, Fearless) to try and get some of that sweet, sweet cash.

  11. nahrhead says:

    I still jock atreyu to this day fuck yes. Also, I took a picture with their rosie o donnell look a like drummer the last time I saw them

  12. penis says:

    “I essentially couldn’t get into any of the bands that came out in the early/mid-00s because it’s all whiny faggotry over boring riffs that go in one ear and out the other. There’s no brutal mosh like Hatebreed”

    Perseverance came out in 2002.

  13. Jonda says:

    hahaha I agree 100% about most of this except for Thursday, FFTL, and UO I loved those bands back in 04-05 and still jam them on occasion No Fucks Given. Hawthorne Heights is embarrassing, hahaha that dude you keep ragging on died a few years ago. You should have also thrown in Silverstein, Aiden, and pretty much anything else on victory at the time.

  14. GenericStupidInterbuttName says:

    i can’t get into any of these bands except for from first to last, i have honestly never seen a thing wrong with the vocals (they’re whiny but i’ve never really cared too much) and the drummer fucking kills.

  15. surewhynot says:

    The only thing that I can give these bands is that none of them pretended like they were good at making music, hence the terrible music they all made. From First To Last also pisses me off the most because neither of the guys singing are in key…in any of their songs, and the frontman is actually worse than the other guy…where’s the autotune at?!

  16. Save Parker says:

    Glad I was into weird indie shit at this time, can’t fuck with any of this music. All seems vaguely suicidal, cries for help and jams can’t really ever cross over. All these bros need a haircut, a shower, a hug, and to get out of their rooms.

    But I do like some Thrice and the latest Underoath record.

  17. Pixy says:

    Arent the dudes from ADTR ugly as hell too?

  18. Fazz says:

    Atreyu and 18v were the bands that got me into core music via seeing a poster for them touring with Avenged Sevenfold or looking like them. I don’t remember.

    Still <3 The Curse and Vanity so much.

  19. inb4everthesickestkids says:

    fact: from first to last was fucking heavy live. fact: from first to last without skrillex had s band called “the color of violence” that sounded like the number twelve looks like you demos
    fact: guitarist from from first to last became vocalist for the human abstract for a brief period
    fact: tl;dr

  20. stedman.rh says:

    some of these bands are definitely still the shit even today, but every scene has its comedy points and it’s good to laugh at even the stuff you enjoy sometimes. I guess that’s what I like the most about SYWH, keeps me from being a loser who takes “authenticity” too srs and can’t poke fun at himself, therefore becoming inauthentic.

  21. concernedphilosopher says:

    I miss this era. I remember pretending to hate bands like that so hard back in middle school when I was a troo thrasher. Now I think this shit is good in a weird way. It reminds of the time in my life when the worst problems were getting turned down by the girl you had a crush and having your gamecube being taken away for failing a math test.

  22. Coffeemug says:

    half of this stuff was on my playlist with heavy duration that time. also with some MCR and Finch like previously mentioned. and although it might not fit into this post that well, TBS’s Tell All Your Friends. still not tired of that record. no. fucks. given.

    and on the topic of WHITEKNIGHTCORE, I just recently revisited some Ataris records. although nothing to do with core, holy shit, the whiteknighting is unparalleled there.

  23. Andrew says:

    DUDE WHAT THE FUCK. Somehow you dis everything I like (Bane earlier today), this shit now… AND I STILL READ YOU THREE TIMES EVERYDAY

    • J.A.Shearman says:

      Up near the top of the page on the side, first line in the ‘about SYWH’
      “Stuff You Will Hate is a blog where we make fun of stuff we like”

  24. Wintermute says:

    I listened to the first two* UO albums so many times.

    I’ll still jam to this on rare occasions
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2V-6qGAqdc

    *The non white metal ones

  25. inb4everthesickestkids says:

    images.gurl.com/images/showoff/spotlighton/boyonboy/gerard_way_frank_iero.jpg

  26. Kakedo says:

    I’ll have to admit that Too Bad You’re Beautiful by From Autumn To Ashes is still a god damn good album. Even the drummers out of tune faggot singing cannot ruin it.
    After that the band turned shit. That song Pioneers doesn’t even have the good old singer in the band or those awesome black metalish riffs.

  27. Wutz_Wutz says:

    I had not listened to Atreyu for ages and was totally taken by surprise that they had a guitar solo.

  28. nyk3 says:

    Ctrl + F “GLASSJAW” NOT FOUND.

    WHAT. THE. FUCK.

  29. BZZZZ says:

    Oh, man, i was so into this shit it’s no even funny. This needs some Taking Back Sunday, tho. They were pretty big back then and even now everyone was jizzing over the fact that they released a new album with their original line up. It’s lulzy to note that the original TBS line up broke up because the vocalist cheated on the guitarist’s sister.

  30. O.G says:

    doesn’t chiodos also fall into this category too?

  31. Anonymous says:

    Whoever ‘wrote’ this article should seriously consider going back to school-it’s atrocious how terrible their style is.

  32. TWO STACKS says:

    underoath reinventing your exit is one of the best songs of all time “got me thru a lot of shit”

  33. xALLGLOOMx says:

    I read the title and was expecting possible inclusion of bleeding through, himsa, dead to fall, martyr ad, remembering never, and old throwdown…and got nothing (except for atreyu and fata, loved those old records). Granted, I too considered most of the bands listed as fashioncore or screamo, but there were some indeed great metalcore mosh jamz from the time.

    1:49 into Dead To Fall’s “bastard set of dreams”, you can’t tell me this lil breakdown didn’t get gets stepped on?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdH8NYsDwWk

    2:50 into “american hollow” by martyr ad still makes me want to break shit after all these years.

  34. JS says:

    YEs, lots of bands here that i liked. i still like some of them but that might be because it reminds me of an easier time??? not sure, listening to music for nostalgic reasons is lame anyway

    Time in Malta should be on this, as far as i remembered they were considered the most legit band in this “genre”

  35. JS says:

    also Silverstein – Smashed in to pieces… havent heard that one in years, but no doubt it hasnt aged well

  36. That one guy says:

    Great article. But you left out a few things. Trivium, Lamb of God, As I Lay Dying and Killswitch Engage were hugely popular at the time, especially with guitar geeks and metal fans who weren’t IMNs. Metalcore for people who like metal/don’t like metalcore/hardcore?
    Also, I believe Earth Crisis released their nu-metal album at this time? Not too sure tho.
    For the more scene side of it: Chiodos, Scary Kids Scaring Kids, the first Emarosa EP, Senses Fail, Saves the Day’s big change from melodic hardcore to straight pop-punk to straight up pop, At the Drive-in, The Blood Brothers(imo the worst band ever), and last but not least the white belt cult surrounding The Locust. You were really scratching the surface of the early 00s.
    But this was great. It made me nostalgia hard and hate my younger me. I’m sorry if I’m a little inaccurate with the bands up there. I didn’t do much research, I just sort of used my memory and I’m stoned as fuck so I probably got some of that up there wrong.

    • Sergeant D says:

      The Blood Brothers(imo the worst band ever)

      YES– fucking hated this annoying, overrated band

      • That one guy says:

        My friends took me to one of their shows saying “it’s really neat hardcore, you’ll love it” and when they played, I was just like, what the fuck is this? It’s one guy talking like he has an apple stuck in his throat and another guy who’s pants were so tight that his voice was stuck in falsetto.
        I especially hated people calling them hardcore. But I guess that’s what you get from art school students from Seattle who heard The Swing Kids and decided to copy it while pretending to be Mike Patton. The early 00s were a dark time for me because of bad music.

  37. freezeatlantis says:

    This is my era, but for me it was Bleeding Through/Eighteen Visions/Atreyu/Himsa/Walls of Jericho/Poison the Well/Bury Your Dead… I liked a Thursday record and a Thrice one but even back then with my scene hair and skinny hoodies I thought FFTL and The Used were super gay.

  38. Dr. Unk says:

    the ‘ugly dude’ from HH that you were clowning on died a couple years back on their tour bus. i’m a bad person so i lol’d that he still gets picked on for being an eyesore.

  39. bricktop23 says:

    no motiv´s “daylight breaking” is a criminally underrated album from that period. they should have been huge.

  40. thetotalbro says:

    Totally jock that Underoath album. Talk about an album that “got me through a lot of bullshit drama in the 10th grade”. Had that and BTBAMs Alaska on repeat on my 2nd gen Ipod nano ery damn day. Didn’t find that video until last year though, and yeah, it’s totally ghey as fuck.

  41. robbie says:

    lol that guy from hawthorne heights you ripped on is dead yo

  42. afuckingdragon says:

    I like 90% of that list, HH were endearing by not actually being that great. I still listen to these now, no fucks given

  43. J.A.Shearman says:

    Man, I’m 19 so this is the shit that was all over the place when I was first getting into heavy music (and music in total) when I was around 13.
    Atreyu were my introduction into this stuff so I loved them and thursday’s heavier stuff I loved because I’d never heard anything with that chaotic edge, hated most of the other stuff mentioned in this.

    For me though, was definitely all about As I lay Dying, Walls Of Jericho, Bleeding Through and Norma Jean.

  44. Salvador says:

    These were the jam when I was 14 and even though I haven’t listened to this stuff in forever I sill know most the words haha. I was also way into Every Time I Die, Blood has been shed, and I loved Thursday’s Full Collapse album NO FUCKS GIVEN.

  45. Anonymous says:

    Alexisonfire anyone? Boysetsfire?

  46. inb4everthesickestkids says:

    +1 for alexisonfire

  47. CallPastorJerkface says:

    From 2002 ’til whenever I started reading Metal Inquisition I was pretty much mathcore only (The End, Crowpath, Into The Moat, Ion Dissonance, etc.) I remember my sister-in-law getting me a subscription to AMP for Christmas and being weirded out by all the glossy looking hardcore bands. The free cds that came with each issue seemed pumped full of weak, bland over produced nu hardcore. I gave all the issues to my buddy who’s a teacher for his class to cut up for class projects.

    I kinda wished I’d kept at least some of those discs now. There may have been some undiscovered gold waiting for me to open up my ears to…

    • Manualdad says:

      Crowpath is my fucking jamz!! Still rock 2x tshirts with perma-sweat-stains in the armpits and a trucker hat with their fucking awesome logo. Shit I backed these dudes hard.

  48. Ada says:

    The only bands in this post I ever got into were Ateryu and Thursday. Atreyu still holds up but I can’t get back into Thursday at all. One of the biggest Christian scene kids/karate mosh pits I ever saw was during a Thursday set, so fucking dumb.

  49. chris says:

    Thursday forever. Also big fucking ups for posting that LOMA PRIETA tanktop.

  50. jake says:

    was way too busy being too cool for school and listening to “skramz” and death metal in this era to even give any of these bands a shot. except for thursday: i will defend that first record to the death, as it was/is the shit.

    • Laszlow Panaflex says:

      Not sure if youre talking about Waiting, or Full Collapse? But either way yes, early Thursday had a serious effect on my musical life…

  51. crucialbro says:

    I was all about trustkill and ferret records during this time frame! My roommates used to call me a fag for liking this and then jack off to the locust and converge…

  52. Glorious Johnson says:

    I always considered most of these bands screamo when I was in high school. My buddies had shown me From Autumn To Ashes a couple times and I thought they were alright when i was like 15. The same year I went to my first hellfest and saw them and was thrown off by how completely gay watching them play live with a 30+ dude pile on during one of their emo songs while everyone hugged and cried. Seriously wicked fucking ghey.

    How can you talk about lolzy OO’s hardcore and leave out NORA bro!?! Nobody takes pictures of the drummer brings the fuckin lolz! SO HEAVY!

  53. SirCaresAlot says:

    Atreyu! Mcr! Taking Back Sunday!? Yup. No fucks to give on this genre. Ha reminds me of middle school. <3

  54. inmyheadache says:

    Holy shit all of this stuff was the worst. “Fashioncore” was huge in Long Island w/ FATA. There used to be a bunch of scrawny herbs wearing shirts that said “MOSHING.FIGHTING.GOOD HAIR”. So retarded.

    There were a lot of bands that I liked during this time, but it was more just straight up hardcore

  55. LeandroS says:

    Let me see…..
    Well, when I was in grade 10, I was just getting out of the whole “nu metal” genre, because I found out about some of those bands. That time it was actually Alexisonfire, Silverstein, Thrice, Hawthorne Heights and the punk-o-rama vol9. I still really like these bands a lot, even their newer stuffs.
    Also, would Skrillex be the Justin Timberlake of “hardcore”? JT used to be in a stupid boy band then he went solo and is a much bigger success. Now Skrillex was in FFTL which was pretty gay too (even though I really like their first album) then went solo to become a dubstep DJ and is a much bigger success. Just saying.

  56. nochance says:

    mean season was dope. suck dicks.

  57. Nils says:

    Wonder what happend to krystal steal? She was a 10
    I miss it dies today, loved the forever scorned ep

  58. CoolNamedGuy says:

    For my money The Bled is as 00sCore as it gets

  59. grymboner says:

    But D, what about Brand New?

    I always put them in that super-overrated group with Thursday, etc. Although their later albums are an attempt at srscore, you have no idea how many xcuttersx were quoting that transit gloria song or w/e.

    Also, I made fun of Atreyu way too much in high school. Now that I’m non-ironically into shitty glam metal, I rock their albums on the reg. No fucks given.

    P.S. Dat Mila Kunis background. MMMM Ukranian Jewess

    • Christian Otte says:

      Brand New rule, I never understood Thursday – can’t get over Geoff Rickley’s voice even with a “brah, it’s supposed to sound rough and unpolished” mindset.

  60. np says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jAFzkntcIE&ob=av3e
    the whiny screamer from FFTL grew up and joined the human abstract and actually learned to scream.

  61. anevilfrog says:

    Ha ha, this is like a checklist of the CD’s I didn’t bother burning when I bought a new computer.

    For some reason FenixTx made the cut though.

  62. Anonymous John says:

    This was a weird fucking time for me. I was all over Taking Back Sunday, Atreyu, Comeback Kid, Haste The Day, Still Remains, Senses Fail, etc. etc. I was all over the place. Basically anything I saw on Fuse or came bundled on a sampler CD from Victory Records was fair game for me.

  63. SirCaresAlot says:

    Also what about early A7X me and my friends kind of lumped those guys in with this.

    • logdeezy says:

      I agree hard. I suggested sarge write a post on this topic on another post a while ago and I included them in there. back when AIM was cool my screen name was FATAxAtreyuxA7Xx because you couldn’t have a screen name without at least 3 X’s in 2002

  64. LeandroS says:

    By the way, you forgot to mention ALESANA

  65. O says:

    THIS ERA.

    THURSDAY
    UNDEROATH
    EVERY TIME I DIE
    POISON THE WELL
    NORMA JEAN
    CONVERGE
    GLASSJAW
    SILVERSTEIN
    FROM FIRST TO LAST
    THE USED (FIRST ALBUM)
    FINCH
    SENSES FAIL
    SCARLET
    18 VISIONS
    BLEEDING THROUGH
    IT DIES TODAY
    HOPESFALL
    THE BEAUTIFUL MISTAKE
    BELOVED
    THE BLED
    + 9K OTHER RAD BANDS

  66. logdeezy says:

    God damn this is a terrible genre I can’t help but love. FATA and Atreyu were my shit. ahhh, I loved the 7th grade.

  67. ramon says:

    YOU FORGOT BAYSIDE!

    • HERMAN says:

      was bayside ever popular? i remember victory came out with a pompous ad that was like, “THE LABEL WHO BROUGHT YOU THURSDAY AND TAKING BACK SUNDAY WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE YOU TO YOUR NEW FAVORITE BAND: BAYSIDE.”

      i thought they would be big, but i don’t know anyone would listened to ‘em. man, victory records is like a cockroach!

  68. luke says:

    Best part about all of these bands were how incapable the singers were of even remotely recreating their ‘singing their <3z out' vibe in the live setting (via letting the crowd sing the high parts). Felt bad, man. Still back all of it though.

  69. Anonymous says:

    COLUMBUS KIDS. remember when the singer of Cap Trag (rip) tried to look exactly like the singer of atreyu. great times.

    saw atreyu once at newport and it was the sweetest fucking thing ever.

  70. VyceVictus says:

    Awesome. 00′s core is actually how I got into extreme music.I didnt have to worry about what “Real” metal or hardcore was, since people were perplexed that a big black guy would be into white people music in the first place (why the fuck would I know about Slayer or Minor Threat in the hood?)

    But even then, I saw the scene through an even more obscure lens via living in asia during the metal explosion of ’03. I actually wrote a bit about the scene and bands there in this post:
    http://www.nocleansinging.com/2011/11/13/korean-metal/

    There was some bands there bringing the slams for real. Not in the lulzy misunderstood Euro way, but a genuine no fux given all for havin fun attitude.

  71. Salmon Slap says:

    Atreyu, From Autumn To Ashes and 18visions = best show I went to in 2004.

  72. jorbams says:

    Anyone remember Haste? Kinda underrated IMO.

  73. Dannibal says:

    A post about some of the shittiest bands ever gets 100+ comments – go figure…”Not to sound like a queer or anything, but I think PTW’s a sweet band.”

  74. Brah says:

    Lamb of God, Hatebreed, Throwdown, Bury Your Dead.

  75. Bronson says:

    Two Points:

    1) As a teenager living in Orange County during the early-mid 00s, much of the stuff on this list (especially Thrice and Atreyu) were absolutely unavoidable. I always considered it all within the “emo” spectrum, but (and this gives you an idea of how much of a beta/tr00fag I was) I considered most of it to be “pop emo”, because at the time I was too busy jocking stuff like Sunny Day Real Estate, The Promise Ring, and Mineral. I came around to some of it a little later (ie: you posted the only Used song I actually like), but for the most part, this stuff was too…sigh…”mainstream” to be acceptable for me back then. Hearing it now makes me half cringe, and half feel nostalgic. Also: No Death Cab?

    2) The singer of The Used looks like a skinnier, rattier, long-haired version of Jack Black.

  76. pillu mies says:

    holy shit this post!

    also: .hopesfall. anyone??

    and this pic of Blessed By A Broken Heart from like 2003: http://s11.lucyphotos.com/images/orig/u/9/u9gkwszqq4drqqdw.jpg

  77. Sean Wright says:

    I was tr00 old-school Hardcore back then. I remember how other highschool kids in the AOL chatrooms (I was already in my early 20′s at this point in time) were raving about this and I would be all elite and tr00 and aggro and say shit like “MAN, YOU LISTENING TO THAT WANNABE EMO FAGGOT SHIT? LISTEN TO DISCHARGE, BLACK FLAG, OR INTEGRITY FGGTS.”….

    That was 2001-2003…..now it being 2011 I’m all like “Cool story bro.”…I hate getting old and mellow.

  78. idonotexist says:

    1. disagree on thrice; dustin kensrue’s an awesome songwriter, and i’ve always enjoyed most of their output (especially vheissu onward). but yeah, you nailed it on most of these other bands (even if i like thursday and underoath).

    2. you never included anything anthony green was in? especially not saosin or circa?

  79. michelle says:

    “He’s currently locked up for murder (srs) and I know for a fact he jams this in his cell with no fucks given- backed hard!” hahaha I lol’ed real loud in my cubicle on that one, A+

    I’ve always liked Sonny Moore even if not his music, he is a super gypsy in life just jumping around the globe since he was like 15 DGAFing what anyone ever thought. His grammy nominations make no sense which make them awesome and say FUCK ALL to the music industry Man. Though I am annoyed that my lesbian sister has decided to cut her hair like him, that trend is so embarrassing and gross.

    I still like some of these bands.. the new Underoath is heavy and they are better live now that they dont talk so much about jesus… Thrice broke up but leave behind the last 2 pretty great albums… and I still listen to Matchbook Romance & old Story of the Year. I don’t know, I guess I’m retarded. I’m going back to listen to my Kesha records now.

  80. alanso says:

    Way tl;dr in terms of comments. Commenting anyway, no fux etc etc. But yes, American Hollow – bayst of a tune.
    FFTL is probably the only band out of those in the videos that I properly tried to get into but even so I couldn’t go full emo as I thought they were. Always felt sorry for the drummer having to hang around with a bunch of fggts so he could be in a band.

  81. alanso says:

    Also, I’m pretty sure as well as having a mixtape/cd era, Myspace era nostalgia when looking back at when I found/used to be into bands, I’ve just realised I’m going to have a SYWH era..

  82. Isaac says:

    During this time I pretty much <3'd Linkin Park, Disturbed, Godsmack and Simple Plan and wasn't in middle school yet so I enjoyed them unironically and without being an emo shit. Three out of those four bands are still the shit (I realized that blink-182 was pretty much a far superior version of SP).

    Oh, and I also loved Three Doors Down and Nickelback. I'll still throw on TDD because why the hell not, but I cannot stand Niggerback anymore. The douchiness grates at my soul.

  83. Kumichou says:

    I unashamedly back Thursday’s Full Collapse 100%. That is all.

  84. herinderpin says:

    I remember some 18 year old bullying me for liking Korn (i was 13, let me be) when he bummed off Atreyu and co. What a dick.

    Also I saw Thursday live and thought they were some new shitty american band so I just booed them and my mate threw sweets at them. Didn’t realise they helped buyild up the whole emo scene.

    Hawthorne only have one decent song, the rest are ultra homo.

  85. Laszlow Panaflex says:

    Man this is hard for me, I turned 18 in 2000 so this was the period of time when I actually started to discover what good music was, instead of being a stupid teenager who thought he knew everything… But I was totally on the “Sceamo” bandwagon… Thursday inparticular I will back to this day. I agree FFTL and some of the other bands you mentioned are total FGGS..But there were some great ones.. Glassjaw???? Poison The Well?? The Agony Scene??

  86. uppercut613 says:

    damn bro… we agree yet again. this era was happening while i was in high school, and at the time i was a really big fan of 90′s skatepunk (no core).

    2006-present era is the best. deathcore, easycore, disney-powerpop, risecore/trancecore

    you should do a post on the history of risecore. thats kinda what this stuff evolved into (for the better, might i add). even though i dont like them that much, i consider drop dead, gorgeous the forefathers of risecore.

  87. uppercut613 says:

    might i add, underoath and hawthorne heights (in this era, which was also their peak in terms of popularity) are two of the most boring bands ive heard in my life. another band like that who got really big for god knows why is scary kids scaring kids. songs were boring as fuck, singer was horrible, and some of the cheesiest keyboard lines ive heard in my life.

  88. ge5undhe17 says:

    Omg. Omg omgomgomg
    Hawthorne Heights, Thursday, From First To Last, The Used

    I’m a college freshman again

  89. Luke Guystalker says:

    NORMA JEAN and EVERY TIME I DIE are two of the best and most interesting bands to ever come from that shitstain of an era we call the early – mid 00′s. I still get a raging boner over my high school favourites like TBS and almost every Underoath album. How mnstrm do I sound right now?

    Sonny Moore is a fggt and I can’t wait till dubstep dies like every other shitty scene fad.

  90. Anonymous says:

    hawthorne heights…. i remember being really “Depressed” driving in the car with my dad whilst listening to hawthorne heights on my i-pod.. so i started singing ” SO CUT MY WRISTS AND BLACK MY EYES SO I CAN FALL ASLEEP TONIGHT OR DIEEEE” ..

    what a terrible time to have been a teenager.

  91. Igor says:

    Come on, what would you say about Emery?? I love their first album so much.

  92. Ian says:

    Excellent job finding the most Sc3n3 Story of the Year video.
    EvErYtHiNg TyPeD lIkE tHiS.

    Love it. Honestly, I didn’t get into any heavy music till I was in high school, 2005-2010. So I missed a lot of this that all my friends were listening to. Doesn’t help I live in the middle of nowhere, in Oregon. I dig a few of these bands though.

  93. eggs// says:

    I agree with D. This era blew chunks. I wish I wasn’t highschool/college age at this time and was born a few years later so I could be young/hot/relevant in the scene again and some old fag

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