Everybody knows that Southern California has the most advanced culture on the planet, which in turn means that it has the most advanced bands on the planet. Sure, there are good bands from lulzy places full of fail like Europe, Philly and Boston, but they are the exception not the rule. At best, they’re one-trick ponies that are decent, but solidly locked within the confines of a given genre with all the familiar tropes that go along with it. This is why it’s so easy to mock Eurocore bands who check off all the items on the “we are an easycore/beatdown/srscore/etc band” list, predictable Boston-pride moshcore bands, etc. Sad 4 their entry-level, one-note concepts :/
On the other hand, So Cal bands always have more advanced, nuanced concepts that reflect the area’s diverse, sophisticated culture that’s always looking for what’s next. For example, BLEEDING THROUGH were part moshcore, part symphonic metal, and part fashioncore, with roots in fun, DIY posicore– a very advanced-level concept that Euros and East Coasters are still trying to catch up with a decade+ later!
For a more recent example, peep the new track from the 818 band GOLIATH and lettuce discuss why it is so advanced:
- Song title is very punk; could easily be an album by some shitty, entry-level band like Casualties or Total Chaos. Makes u want to fuck shit up and/or question authority!
- Opens with Slayer-esque ‘creepy clean guitar,’ then there’s a massive breakdown, then a semi-GOTHENBURGCORE part followed by a blast beat and a bass drop at 2:16. Oh, and dat BLEH! at 3:17, which is a nice nod to ignorant mosh. It’s like a potpurri of moshable musical elements!! But note than unlike entry-level, crappy bands who haphazardly cram genres together and call it originality, GOLIATH combines all of this in a way that feels completely natural.
- Breakdown at 2:16 where they are all ‘NO MAN IS SAFE FROM LIFE ITSELF!!! I H8 U DAD DONT MAKE ME GO AN HERO!!’ IMO this is the most advanced part about GOLIATH– I can only hope that this kind of self-hatred/depression/existential angst is The Next Big Thing in hardcore, especially when paired with DYSTOPIA-like vocals.
1) That clean “creepy/dystopian” guitar intro- I’m huge sucker for this. Southern California is incredibly good at this: see Soul of a New Machine era Fear Factory and Dystopia!
2) If The Acacia Stain is the Despise You of this generation’s downtuned mosh bands, these guys are definitely the Dystopia- technically more depressing lyrical content, but delivered by melodramatic kids who are just making shit up. Although given that photo with all of the face tattoos drawn on, Im guessing these guys are at least a little bit tongue in cheek about it.
3) I think it is hard to put your finger on it, but there is definitely a SoCal “sound” that all of these bands have. Something about them makes me think of freeways covered in grafitti, the courthouse in downtown LA, ridiculous amounts of sun coming through a veneer of smog, insane Mexican food and poor people skateboarding. I think Dino Cazares has something to do with this via his guitar sound in Excruciating Terror.
Sweet!! The MS fanboy/ IMN part of me is pleased wid dis post
I concur with you brah…
IMN glasses on:
the ending of the song brings about the early Fear Factory Industrial/Dystopia influence but i like to point out heavy crossover favs Suicidal Tendencies has the first intro part all locked up w/ the heavy metal clean guitar intro all boxed up in their shit too…
Since So Cal has been the epicenter of coolness and been the forefront of most of all heavy music (see thrash,80s hxc punk, G-Funk-rap, chicano rap, crossover, skater punkrock, Mexican Grindcore, Nu-Metal, nu-hxc etc.) I would like to point out that yes there is a variety of flavors to choose from over here in the west coast but sometimes it always is not good (see a little band called Winds of Plague). The mixture is kickass but learn to mix n match your hot sauces correctly plz. Beware the red sauce if you do not know of thy taco stand yet sometimes even the green sauce or guacamole is hotter than the tame red hot sauce or salsa/pico de gallo….
Now to listen to sum union13 cuz i can’t stand it anymore followed by some blink182, Evil Dead, and then prolly sum dark angel n asesino or sum chit… for dessert I think I’ll have some Xibalba, Goliath, and umm maybe vandals or Downset to top it off…
see wut i did there? tee hee >;-P
>Complains about metal nerds on tumblr
>Mentions Slayer in SYWH post
Guessing you wrote this post earlier, but I can’t pass up a chance to point out minor inconsistencies in your logic. Liking the music, but the vocals remind me of the Suiside Silense demo, very weak and amateur.
http://i44.tinypic.com/34fyuyw.jpg
I sense that calling metal gay earlier is still resonating in between your buttcheeks, so i thought you could use some of this.
Always here 4 u bro
xoxo
Seriously dude please drop it
I am genuinely sorry and honestly have no intention of irritating you. One love?
Xoxo
This is fucking tight! That Bleh into that Breakdown = I am moshing.
Also, rad that the pre-order is available on their big cartel rather than a label’s website, that’s DIY as fuck in 2012, without being some stuck up 80s/90s revival tape only EP.
Not trying to WK here, but people trying to call out the Sarge on random shit is fucking garbo and is slowly sucking the fun out of SYWH.
Sorry, I’ll stop :(
people trying to call out the Sarge on random shit is fucking garbo and is slowly sucking the fun out of SYWH
Make that QUICKLY sucking the fun out
pedantry is a hallmark of musicfags. Congratulations on pointing out an inconsistency in my fucking comedy blog
SYWH is not a comedy blog. SHUSH.
unghhhh
From there FB:
Description
We’re Goliath, we play aggressive music.
Should read: WE’RE GOLIATH, WE PLAY A POTPOURRI OF MOSHABLE MUSICAL ELEMENTS.
brb, starting a mosh band copy writing agency and stealing all of D’s descriptions.
*their (good luck with my copy writing career in 2012)
back tard.
Oh man…that link was the first time Ive ever listened to Dystopia. That rant at the beginning was some grade A “college freshman that just discovered Marx” inanity.
leisureclassproblems.bmp.
Yeah fuck marxists but this will make you shit a brick http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsLCtVI0h8E
Wow… ancient. Haven’t heard that shit in YEARS. I’ll have to dig out my Human=Garbage cd and give it a spin. Props for the link; I almost forgot about Dystopia.
LOL you just mentioned DYSTOPIA! Bring on the record collecting nerds! Floodgate = open
Ugh, youre right. I should have known better. Theyre like rats or ants: leave one crumb out for them by mistake, and spend the next 3 months getting rid of them.
Brb only posting about Kottonmouth Kings for the next 6 months- think of it as a musicfag fumigation
Its sad that that band has a superlatively unfun fanbase, because they have tons of fucking sweet songs and ridic breakdowns. and when you take their goofy lyrics as a joke, they turn into an awesome drunken sing along band as well
My vegan girlfriend loves that fucking bullshit ‘taste your own medicine’ song and takes it full seriously. I once tripped with some of my hip hop liking bros and decided it would be a good idea to put dystopia on: we all got so scared we ran out of the house and they had to peer pressure me hard to get me to go back in and turn it off
“I used to have a vegan girlfriend, but she’s not vegan anymore, now she’s my ex-vegan ex”
^ THIIIISSSSS
nah i think a more effective approach would be posts on ICP n RATM n chit..
those rats must all die!!
I consider myself pretty well versed in ignorant moshcore, but even I am impressed that you managed to tell the breakdowns from the rest of the song. Although, in a way that just speaks to how excellent this song is. In that respect, it reminds me of xAFBx in a good way.
Also, THIS IS MY VENDETTA WITH THE WORLD!!! = FUCK CHORES, 2 BUSY MOSHING, TELL MY SISTER 2 DISHES
FUCK CHORES #818
Do you think this band could be the next big thing in deathcore and or hardcore?
speaking of telling breakdowns from the rest of the song, there’s a band called In The Eyes of A Mistress. their songs are non-stop breakdowns (i think as a joke?).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIyJ4i-28fs
this band is fucking terrible, i sympathetically bought a tank top from one of the band members at my first warped tour 2 or 3 years ago and he gave me their album with it. this stuff needs it’s own post. i’m sure that it’s supposed to be a joke but it falls short and is 100% unfunny
i think that’s the point? who thinks a song that is just a bunch of breakdowns is “good music”? but who needs good music when you have breakdowns 4eva???
Are you combaring this band to Goliath cause that would be disrespectful to Goliath haha
it always weirds me out when i see someone talk about xAFBx as a real band because i can only see them as those guys in the national geographic doc on straight-edge who gave the lulzy explanation of their name. it was something along the lines of:
“EVERYDAY IS A BATTLE. THAT’S WHY WE’RE CALLED xARMEDxFORxBATTLEx.”
Not sure if marker or real face tattoos…
seemslegit.psd
THIS IS MY VENDETTA WITH SOME STUFF.
THIS IS MY VENDETTA WITH SOME STUFF.
I really wanted to like Dystopia, but Human = Garbage was just so whiny and terrible to me. It was like crusty Nu-Metal. It’s weird because I know guys who hate Dystopia and hate 16 for the same reason, but to me 16 didn’t give off the same vibe at all.
No idea what this band sounds like. Logo is a straight up Entombed/Nihilist ripoff.
The Entombed logo is a straight rip off of 16th century illuminated manuscripts
Lol. Never thought I’d see an illuminated manuscripts joke on this site. Love it.
making jokes that involve moshing and references to incredibly obscure topics that only 1.5 people who read the site will understand = never not funny (see also 3DS MAX teapot primitive)
So glad I’m in 11th grade world histroy so I can be mirin’ dat next level humor. <3 u sarge (no homo). Don't get down about the stray IMN in comments here. 95% of commenters on SYWH fucking rule.
Does anybody have the tabs to this song? pls respond
Hey Sarge, since you’re constantly WKing SoCal and contemporary HC bands, howcome you never mentioned Rotting Out? Plus, they definitely apply the “don’t fix it if it’s not broken” rule.
BTW they also jock a silly chollo handstyle font…
i am begging you to take me up on my offer to use the search box!! all your questions regarding my opinions about Rotting Out will be answered.
On an unrelated note, chollo influence has been working in europe for while too, and well, it’s pretty fucking embarassing.
I got a flyer for these guys back in 2010: http://youtu.be/kEf4HN0SxRQ
Plz change ur name to “an eurofag”
No “an”?
Not euro!
Type “rotting out” into dat search box up there ^
i stand corrected
dystopia is my girl’s favorite band and when we ride in cars together she only plays that or dubstep.
is this trolling
vocals are meh ):
I like them man they have a thrashcore feel and the other vocalist sounds like a monster first time Ive heard a band really use two different vocalist well other than DI
will be moshing to this in the gym in the morning. thanks!!! love the nuanced use of feedback in a couple places through the track… has anyone listened to the rest of their recordings?
This new song is really great it blows the old stuff out of the water! I can hear so many different styles put into this one song. I hear that behemoth/winds of plague like lead over the chorus. If you have seen the studio update videos the bassist from WOP recorded this song so it makes since that synphonic sound got into it. I love those Gojira like feedback/rake sounds all over the place, best used in the last breakdown. These lyric are a great balance between ignorence and brillant. They know when to be poetic and use big word and have some depth to what they are saying and they also know when its time to bring out the mosh chants. Then they have that hatebreed/soulfly/throwdown stomp which is really catchy. That verse riff is almost black dahila sounding to me. The lower vocalist sounds like a monster and the high one sounds like EP Suicide SIlence which is when I liked them most. I’m excited to hear the rest of the cd I hope its all this good.
Dude I totally noticed the gojira thing to haha and the behemoth thing as well.
That breakdown after the first verse is really hard to follow. At first I thought it was just a slow ignorant breakdown like every other band but when I tryed reapeating the pattern to myself it changed haha. I was like WTF so I listened again and still can’t follow it. So there is something tech in this song which I am glad to hear. The breakdown has a meshuggah like feel to it so ill at least give them that.
PLEASE do a post on the 818. Please.
i rep the 626 doe :(
All the 16 year olds will eat this up because they will think this is the outcast anthem. This reminds me of slipknot’s pulse of the maggots. Sarge how do you find these sweet band? I bet they will blow up in the next few years. You should do a pod cast with some of them.
this is what oceano would sound like if they were a beatdown band. moshing!!!
This shit goes hard in da motha fuckin paint.
Haha that guys in the picture is actually me and that was for Halloween, I’m not stupid enough to get a bands name on my forehead, or even get face tattoos in general.
This band and XIBALBA are the best so cal hardcore bands for sure
How the fuck can you compare this shit to Xibalba? What are you fucking deaf?
They don’t sound the same Xibalba sounds like emtombed I was just saying both these bands have a cool different style of hxc
Entombed* Hate to be a dick but seeing that you have misspelled their name shows me you know nothing of that band,and secondly Xibalba has a lot more influences than just that band,I know them well enough to tell you that.
Also this is not hardcore man,its generic breakdown orientated Deathcore. And the fact that people are even comparing this to Dystopia let alone dropping that amazing bands name within the subject of Goliath is really bothersome.This band has nothing original,the message is the same as every other band within this genre,and the singer Corey is nothing but a drama filled low life who revolves his life around picking fights with kids at shows to try a prove a point that hes “hard”.
I see nothing appealing about this band other than they are just another hype band from the Los Angeles area that will eventually die out once this whole phase burns out.It already happened to Die Like Kidd and Consider Her Dead (which are bands that this band is made out of) so I am pretty sure the same will happen to this band,once their fans mature and start to learn that life isn’t about being a miserable martyr who thinks the whole world is against them,gotta grow up some time kids.
U should try and be more srs and intellectual
We need ur knowledge and wisdom
thx for setting us straight
sounds like u ‘really know what ur talking about’ re: dystopia
i always thought Matt/Mauz was a chillbro but Dino and Todd were kinda crybabies
u knew them in the 90s too, right?
Well personally I don’t think names should be dropped especially when a majority of the people here probably can’t name any songs by Dystopia let alone name one song other than “Wolverine Blues” by ENTOMBED not “emtombed”.
All I have to say is this,people should really learn their roots,trace it back and maybe they will learn something,back then it was real music with a real message,but this new age shit is well in lack of a better word “SHIT” that is my final statement.
Holy shit this guy is literally the actual stereotype we always laugh at
Back when it was real music with a real message = dying!!!
dead kennedys ‘walkin, talking stereotype’ quote
Sorry I spelled it worng my bad but i really do like that band Inferno is one of my favorite CD’s. But no one in this band was in die like kid that drummer got kicked out. Anyways I want to tell you why this band is different. They sound nothing like other deathcore bands Coreys vocals are different and unique. The music is much more than ignorant mosh. They are saying something that they mean. You can not like them all you want but at least they are going hard and they kill it live. Some of the best bands write about feeling down thats what I like about them they speak to me on that level. Musically this takes talent listen to the breakdowns they are pretty complex long patterns. I talked to the guitarist at a show and he said his influnences are from bands like Behemoth Meshuggah Hatebreed Soulfly Pantera Entombed Gojira Slipknot Suffocation and all kinds of crazy metal. I think thats rad and different. I can hear all those influnces which makes me like them even more.
Dude this band rules this new shit blew me away. I was scared it would suck since both the guitarists look so metal haha. I thought they would just become a shitty death metal rip band but they have a very nice blend of genres. Good call posting this band MR. D
Let’s get this straight, Only the DRUMMER from Die Like Kidd was or is in this band. He joined after DLK kicked him out, then GOLIATH proceeded to steal all of DLKs stuff, MySpace etc.
DIE LIKE KIDD
Only has one side project,
That’s 10000x better than this fucking garbage.
Keep your eye out for
JUGGERNAUT
Dude I’m sorry but Goliath blows DLK outta the water.
Yea they really do not trying to be a dick in case tom was in dlk but Goliath is a lot better.
Tom was the reason DLK broke up.He focused on “firefighting”.No one got kicked out,the band just went their seperate ways.Get over it.