In American high school sports there are two tiers. The good players are on what’s called the varsity team, and the kids who aren’t very good but have to be included for the sake of ‘fairness’ and ‘everybody having a chance to play’ are on the junior varsity (or JV) team. Music works the same way, so I’ve always used the term “JV” to describe those awkward bands who try really hard, but just don’t have what it takes. You feel bad for them, because it’s obvious how bad they want it, but at the same time it makes you really uncomfortable to watch them do everything a little wrong.
This band called WHEN GIANTS FALL is a perfect example of a JV band, like if you made an off-brand, bootleg version of PARAMORE and smuggled it across the border in a crate of JEDWARD merch. I was really really hoping they would be the next COURAGE MY LOVE, but I just can’t convince myself that they have the ability :( Notes:
- Bish seems nice but she should not be allowed anywhere near a microphone :(
- The G-rated setting is cute, but didn’t know they have amusement parks like this in the UK. They must get really crowded on the 2.5 days of sunny weather. And don’t all the rides get covered in moss and ivy??
- Least enthusiastic performance video ever? They pretty much just stand in place, awkwardly swaying a little bit in an attempt to seem ‘into it.’ Feel like I’m watching some Bulgarian snuff porn and an Azerbaijani mobster in a track suit is standing just out of frame with a gun and saying ‘Dence. DENCE I SAID!!!’
- Guitarist’s checkered strap suggests that he only recently graduated from his ska phase
- :44 her outfit is screaming “an Euro”: baggyish t-shirt with Fred Perry-style logo tucked into high-waisted jeans with a braided leather belt
- 1:25 Behind-the-drums shot of their 6 friends moshing to the ‘breakdown’ makes me sad inside. Reminds me of when you see some kid with terminal brain cancer on TV talking about how he wants to be an astronaut and you’re like ‘awwww the poor little guy has no idea how badly his dreams are going to get crushed.”
Liek WHEN GIANTS FALL on Bookface– tell them they seem like nice kids, and you hope they someday acquire the ability!
Your newfound love of G-rated antics comes as a surprise. Also worth noting in the video-those zany faces they make for the camera at 0:41 that is supposed to come off as fun and cute, but is actually just strange and awkward to watch. Wood see them live because it’s fun music and they’re all probably cool people, but wood not go out of my way to listen to the music on my own time.
I would eff both the bishes in this vid, also the attack attack “stick guitar above your head for a second” thing before the gaydown.
I think they’re just too young to “get it”. Ascending to top tier requires honing of talent, so sometimes you have to play the JV team while you’re a freshman until you bulk up and learn how to dunk and then get bumped up to varsity.
They should redshirt imo
Basically this. It sounds like they just got into the genre and they’re stoked on it for sure, they just don’t know much about it yet.
I’m just happy that when I first got into hardcore there wasn’t a single thing in my life that I was taking seriously, so all the shitty songs I wrote and recorded were about dumb shit like how shrimp goes bad really fast and how I really wanted to play Gauntlet Legends but one of my bros borrowed it.
I would listen to songs like that.
“Ska Phase”, still a thing in the UK… SYWH needs more ska, my NFC years in HS nearly erased the earlier memories of pogoing to Voo Doo Glow Skulls (#909mexiska) and The Aquabats (#mormonsloveska)
brb, starting new genre, SkankSlam (registering mightymightymoshtones.biz)
Goldfinger was the shit during that era. Then John Feldman went on to produce legit sick albums by The Used and Story of the Year. And every band from then on all used the ‘Feldman sound’. He deserves a lot more credit for shaping the way pretty much all modern bands record their music.
This comment = back tard. I wish producers in general got more credit for their work, but feldmann in particular is very underrated.
He basically reinvented how drums are recorded. All the crazy separation you hear these days was his inovation. The first Used record blew my mind when it came out, I’d never heard anything that sounded quite like it before.
I was thinking that the other day when I was listening to the drums on the new Dream Theater album and okay I’ll just stop right there.
Not as bad as I expected, but still kind of bad. I think they’ll acquire the ability once the girl stops singing like an ’80′s new wave singer and they learn to make sweet riffz.
Also, G-rated antics are backed hard!
Singer is good and lovely but does not have the ability =( inb4 she ends up working at local record store because the band doesn’t take off and she grows a giant bush.
Singer also looks like a JV version of the My Lief as LIZ bish.
Lacks the half-azn genes of Liz :(
She’s mad cute but looks really awkward seeing into the camera.
would be a lot cooler if they shaved their beards
it sounds like stoner doom pop punk
or like sonic youth via the vocalist sounding bored
another thing: that breakdowwn would be amazing if this was doom metal
The singer isn’t even bad, she just needs to come out of her shell and show some confidence. Then her vocals and presence could both be very good. Or as plan B, she can stay shy and awkward, write ten times as many lyrics, ditch the band, download some free hip-hop beats where somebody accidentally muted the snare track, and be the next Kitty Pryde.
The dudes just sound like a rock band, but like AetherJake says, maybe they just need to develop their skills and even lift, bro. Hell, a dance remix of this song with like 80% of the guitar notes taken out could be pretty awesome.
They have sweet tunes but she really can’t sing.
I hope she takes singing lessons because I still want her to be in he band, she’s so beautiful.
No WK
Just a little WK
Rides covered in moss and ivy sounds like a pretty tight song title for an ironic toughchildhoodcore band. Or at least it could be the first line of the first song on an EP.
Rides covered in moss and ivy,
Sunshine was a fairy tale;
Growing up in Blighty was, blimey,
Cold and damp, like, every day.
*bass drop
HU-
MID
AIR
*breakdown
LMAO. Those lyrics need to be really used in a song.
- Her singing reminded me of those boring 90s bands like Dhalia Seed.
- I kinda like the intro riff.
- Not sure if wood smash.
- I think this is a positive sign of an upcoming Paramorewithbreakdownscore trend.
- “Seasick Man Overboard” shows how they are just getting into the genre by naming their songs mixing titles from other songs. All in all, I wanna hear more bands like this.
“Seasick Man Overboard”
YES, meant to say something about this haha.
Check out their new EP, “Transit Title Fight”
Mirin her complete lack of charisma coupled with an extreme ability to sing flat. Full respect for her principled stance about not using Autotune in the studio (guitarist’s bedroom) in order to be painfully authentic.
I for one respect her commitment to REAL music. And also, not throwing away that free braided leather belt that came with her jorts.
Paracore
File under bands who got a cute girl singer cause she was a cute girl, not cause she could sing. Hopefully they keep it going into college, get better but are still only an intramural band.
You don’t know any band dudes, do you? No band wants a cute girl singer unless it was started by a cute girl singer and she wants another cute girl to sing with her.
Every band wants a dude to sing. After six months of not being able to find one, they either break up or settle for the cute girl singer. They’re never really happy and always looking for a dude who could sing so they can fire her. However, having one of the guitarists sing never occurs to them.
The above paragraph describes at least 90% high school and college bands across the entire world.
Nah dude, high school bands where they just want to start one to start one, all the time they’ll just find a cute girl who’s kind of into the music they’re trying to do without caring if she can sing real good or anything.
Not many bands are smart enough to want a cute girl singer. And for real, I’ve known more than a few bands that didn’t want a chick singer, couldn’t find a dude and ended up settling for a chick that they didn’t really want. That kind of thing never goes well.
This is clearly more of a one guy probably has a crush on her and asked her to be in the band and none of them take it seriously enough to stop her even tho she can’t really sing type situations.
I wish my band had a cute girl singer, we would be famous instantly
Oh lawd. Pause at 1:13. Those gumz, woof. Hit play and look at dat smile on the drummer, lol! He’s having so much fun.
bish = would pretend to be into her so she would let me copy her homework/10
a friend and i got ourselves moved to jv for football and it was awesome. we were both like 6’2 230 and pushing little kids around.
First sentences made me wonder what percentage of dudes in sports style hc jerseys (bands and fans) were/are actual athletes or excelled at any physical pursuit. Lots of sports themes in hardcore, and the internet has informed me that hc bros are total meathead football jocks. Not my experience IRL.
Does hardcore even lift, bro?
I saw Xibalba (the Cali one, not a bad band!) and no one tried to hatemosh me despite being an IMN. Also need to know how to better live up to being an IMN so you guys don’t just have to settle for strawmen.
I’m pretty sure the bad singing comes from her trying to use an American accent and it failing. You can hear the weird British pronounciation coming through in some words. Once you notice it you can’t unhear it.
the drummer looks like a baby playing with pots and pans lmao mrin this shit hard af
Easycore checklist:
-wacky face antics
-semi srs mosh w wacky costumes
-location with teen fun coonations (y no montage with candy floss, shooting coconuts and two giggly teens kissing).
-American pop punk uniform
Singer is cute and would pretend to like her band to have awkward bedroom hookups/10. Looks like a real handful in the bedroom (not srs).
SHE’LL BE A GOOD TWEE/INDIE BAND VOCALIST WHEN SHE GROWS OUT OF THIS BULLSHIT.
not gonna lie, that chorus had me nodding my head