Why I stopped being straightedge (and you prob should too)

Joke t-shirt slogan is accurate description of reality

When I look back at my teenage years, I feel like I’m watching a movie about someone who attempted to do every embarrassing thing possible in a quest to alienate himself from any of his normal peers. From denim shorts to fur protests to being vegan, I hopped on every 90s hardcore bandwagon there was to be hopped on, and the results were always regrettable and embarrassing. As you would expect, that includes being straightedge for many years (although thankfully I did sell out at 21). With 90s faggotry becoming more popular every day, I figured I should discuss how dumb sxe is– if I can save even one kid from wasting their youth on being an edgefag, I’ve made a difference!

SXE = just another flavor of Special Snowflake Syndrome
First of all, let me be clear: I’m not saying ‘IF U DONT CHUG 40s, POP PILLS AND BLOW RAILS UR LAME AND U HATE FUN DRINK BEER U FUCKIN PUSSY!!!!’ There are lots of good reasons not to drink or do drugs, especially when you are a kid. I happen to think its a better idea if you DO want to drink and do drugs (in moderation of course), but either choice is cool. What’s not cool is making a huge deal out of it, because making a big deal out of stuff is weird, and being weird is bad. It’s even more weird when your whole identity is wrapped around NOT doing something– “hey man, I don’t fuckin eat macaroni and cheese OK?? Fuck you!!”

Nobody who bought this t-shirt ever stepped to a drug dealer, or even intended to. They just bought it because they wanted everybody to look at them and be like ‘omg u have such excessively strong opinions u must be a rly unique and interesting person’

I’m into plain bishes with no tits and no hips (srs), but the edge is a dealbreaker for me so wood not/10. Also what is up with her disgusting knee.

You see, the truth is that people are not sxe because they want to be drug-free. If that was the case they would simply say “Nah, I’m good” if someone offered them a drink. Like I said in my post about being vegan, the real reason people are sxe is because they are insecure and need some sort of specialness to create an identity around– in other words, they suffer from Special Snowflake Syndrome.

Old ppl who are still sxe = the worst
Like I said, there’s a reasonable argument to be made for not drinking or doing drugs when you are a kid. But when you’re an adult? Staying sxe is a one-way ticket to being a socially retarded weirdo. As someone in a recent comment thread brilliantly observed, “people who are sxe over the age of 25 are always making status updates about $10 an hour jobs, buying records/comics, and other embarrassing crap.” This is because sxe is something that appeals primarily to teenagers, and if you are a grown-ass man who is still sxe that means you are a manchild whose social development stopped at 16.

Wood wear this/10, backed super hard (via the fact that hippies do fucking suck)

This is because if you are sxe, you miss out on many of the experiences that are an integral prt of growing up and social development in this country: going to bars, clubs, parties, and so forth. Usually edgefags will have kind of canned response for this like ‘I don’t like being out of control, man’ but that is all bullshit. The bottom line is that getting wasted, acting like an idiot and having sex with random people is fucking awesome, and you will be missing out on that if you’re sxe. Hardcore shows are fun and all, but not nearly as fun as doing blow off the cover of a Necro CD, fucking some girl you met 10 minutes ago in the bathroom at a party then finding yourself in the middle of the street with no shoes on for some reason.

Don’t let this be you (srs). Put down the HAVE HEART lyric sheet and go hang out at the bar with everybody else. It’s not going to fucking kill you– in fact, you will have a great time. There’s a reason why 90% of the world thinks that being at the bar with their friends is a good way to spend the weekend!

SXE really does mean you have no friends
It only gets worse as you get older. The bottom line is that you will be the weirdo who isn’t doing what everyone else is doing, which is compounded over time. You’ll be the only 30 year old at the office that doesn’t have a story to tell about how ‘I drank so much [x] that I did [y] lol it was like American Pie but IRL’, which means you’ll basically be Steve Carrell’s character in “The 40 Year Old Virgin.” Feelsbadman.

The whole deal with sxe comes down to this: being different from everybody else is not fun, it sucks. Being the odd man out is sad and lonely, not cool. Why make life harder on yourself by deliberately excluding yourself from all the shit that your peers are doing? Why choose to be a weirdo? Why not just go with the flow? Especially since getting wasted is really fucking fun.

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371 Responses to Why I stopped being straightedge (and you prob should too)

  1. cmoney says:

    honestly just think about the minor threat song out of step where they declare their morals (how overrated is this band btw though they got some solid jams). It’s pretty insane that someone was like “don’t drink don’t smoke don’t FUCK” and people by the 100s then 1000s were like “yeah that sounds sweet let’s rep that.”

  2. you are entirely right. feel proud about the brilliance of this piece b4 the hate commences.

  3. Jek Porkins says:

    I was a hopelessly embarassing teenager, but I just thank god I never got into straightedge. Though I’m certain thats only because of environmental factors.

  4. Wes Borland says:

    Yeah I back this. I was edge through high school, mainly because I was involved with athletics and didn’t want to fuck up any opportunities I would have had through that. I worked to maintain good marks and all that goodness, and then I lightened up and got less serious when I got to college. Been feeling fine ever since. Officially broke since 2 years ago tomorrow!

  5. Void Eater says:

    “being weird is bad”

    This is the most true thing that has ever been said in the history of mankind. I so desperately wish that somebody had told me this at 14. Trying hard to make yourself seem like a unique individual just makes you seem like the fag who people laugh at (not with) in school and want nothing to do with.

    • RJG says:

      My issue is that it’s basically an insta-identity: just add X’s and you’re set.

    • Sergeant D says:

      Trying hard to make yourself seem like a unique individual just makes you seem like the fag who people laugh at

      boom

      • Void Eater says:

        Note that this is all from personal experience :(. Semi related note to zany fags-when you act all zany in class and people laugh, its not because they like you and think that you’re cool, its because you’re an awkward freak.

        • Void Eater says:

          This may serve as inspiration to finally write another SYWH post-why being a zany faggot doesn’t mean people like you and you really need to stop. Unless that’s already been done before.

          • Sergeant D says:

            You should do it! I think we’ve mentioned that idea many times but never really done an in-depth post on it. Go for it!

          • Jonnyfilth says:

            Do it (srs) solid avice

            • Void Eater says:

              I’m on it! Disregard sleep, acquire advice post on moderately popular music blog.

              • junjunweet says:

                was literally just talking to my bro about two different bros we know, one who is self proclaimed ‘krAzy’ who does gay ‘random’ stuff but for the most part is really boring, and the other, who is a genuine weirdo once you get to know him but doesn’t act embarrassing in public and is super fun to be around. basically pretending to be zany = something that only a throughly un-zany person would do.

    • Dogboy says:

      fwiw though, only kids who are weird to begin with try to find justifications for being weird. most of us were probably like that, hence, being punk or sxe or whatever is our solution to being an outcast but feeling like a part of a bigger community. this is a vicious cycle that will perpetuate cycle in the young forever. youth really is wasted on the stupidly young.

    • Emmy says:

      You guys are worthless sell-out shits.
      So die like everyone else…the same.

      • Michael says:

        So not wanting to puke all over myself and end up killing whatever remaining brain cells I have makes me stupid?…Yeah okay you keep telling yourself that bro.

  6. Circles & Sticks says:

    srs question; if someone isn’t into drinking or drugs, but doesn’t make a big deal about it and still hangs at crazy American Pie style parties, do you think they are missing out on life? I ask because I am not this person anymore (I figured out drinking is fun), but i used to be. it seems like your post was more about being a weirdo than not drinking.

    • Jonnyfilth says:

      If they’re there to socialize/have fun and not to stand around being an elitist fag who judges all the drinkers, then no, they’re not missing out. Parties are fun, even if you’re not drunk. Zany party shit just happens to be MORE fun while intoxicated.

      • RJG says:

        Agree to disagree. You missed out. I missed out. You should be doing dumb stuff when you’re young.

        • Sergeant D says:

          ^ this

          Yes, obviously you can still enjoy yourself if you are sober, but FACT: shit is way more fun when you’re drunk.

          • dingdong says:

            Posting to say that I adopted the edge title after a few years of drinking. Drugs never interested me.

            I don’t know what it’s like in America, but in Australia, most people are chill enough to not GAF about what another person is doing in a social situation. I became edge after becoming such a binge drinker that I was legless drunk on Christmas day an was an embarrassment to my whole family.

            I still go out to bars, party like a mother fucker and act like a tool along with everyone else but don’t need alcohol to act as a social lubricant.

            The only reason I mention edge in public is when I run into the minority of people here who can’t understand that a person doesn’t need alcohol. It’s simply easier to say “Nah mate, I’m edge”.

            tl;dr – IDGAF what you guize think, I know I’m special and you’re just another number in a crowd of sheeple.

  7. Jonnyfilth says:

    Straightedge = for people who are too weak to control themselves.
    If you don’t wanna be a drunk fuckup or a drug addict, fine. That makes perfect sense. That doesn’t mean you have to abstain from fun entirely.
    It’s possible to drink a beer without ruining your life. It’s possible to party without totally jeapordizing your whole future. Moderation means you can drink and still keep your mind. Being so mentally weak that you can’t even have one drink for fear of becoming an alcoholic isn’t something to be proud of. Advertising that with stupid shirts and tattoos and being a loudmouth asshole is even dumber.

  8. Tears Of Buttstration says:

    the worst were the edge kids that WOULD go to party’s, but were DETERMINED to show everyone that “THEY CAN HAVE MORE FUN THAN ANYONE… WHILE SOBER!!!!” and act super “wacky” and annoying, trying to be the life of the party, even further repelling any vaginas.

    Also most of the edge kids i knew in the 90s followed the letter of the law and not the spirit, and were SUPER into food, candy, caffeine, gambling, strip clubs, hookers (everyone conveniently ignore the “don’t fuck” lyric since its kinda vague) or anything else they could find loopholes for, like the chicks you see rocking booty shorts with a head scarf.

    at least hardline doesn’t really exist anymore, i feel like it was a total product of the clinton era when people had the luxury of thinking animal rights and drinking at hardcore shows were the most important issues in society, but it was sad/hilarious to see people trying to one up each other over “who is more hardline” to the point where pc vegan edge kids became pro life muslims, i think thats an important sub-cultural history lesson not many people know about, and is very relevant to the current “social justice” phenomenon.

    at the end of the day, if you are a young edge kid reading this, just be aware that YOU WILL brake edge eventually (i cant think of anyone i know out of 100′s that are still edge) no matter how dedicated you think you are now, and YOU WILL be even more annoying than you are now if you START drinking at 30, cause you will essentially act just like those annoying 14 year olds drinking for the first time who’s shitty behavior inspired you to be edge in the first place, so get the awkward shit out of your system when you are young like you’re supposed to!!!

    • Sergeant D says:

      were DETERMINED to show everyone that “THEY CAN HAVE MORE FUN THAN ANYONE… WHILE SOBER!!!!”

      THIS. nobody’s fucking buying it.

      • Anonymous says:

        That was me in high school and I still facepalm whenever I look back. I claimed edge when I was 15 or so (via being a Special Snowflake in a school of rich alcoholics and druggies) and by spring of my junior year I sold out, started drinking and finally started getting with girls at parties. Now I’m in college living a normal life full of partying and hot bishes. All my best friends from HS and I just laugh everytime we remember my edge days. Feelsgoodman.

    • Chillin' says:

      >everyone conveniently ignore the “don’t fuck” lyric since its kinda vague

      That sentence in particular is so cringe-worthy. I still can’t get over the fact that some dumbass song shaped people’s views.

    • Kacey says:

      I hate the fucking world.
      People like you go and trash everything because you know you’re wrong. Have you ever thought about how FUCKING SELFISH you are. Do you know where cocaine comes from? Do you know where most all the drugs come from? The latin America drug circle. Hundreds of people die everyday from this. You selfish uneducated little prick. It also abuses the shit out of you’re body. Over about ten years even minimal use of drugs leads to cell death on the top of your brain. No wonder you’re so fucking stupid. And another thing. You claim straightedge thinking their better then everybody else. Well so are you asshole.
      —So you haven’t seen someone who hasn’t broken edge and is about thirty?
      Look at Davey Havok asshole. Trust me, he has a much better life then you.

      • joey says:

        All my chronic is grown in California, my gin is from England, and beer from Germany. No exploitation going on for most of us.

  9. DarthZedd says:

    I’m just really glad that I never got an edge tattoo… srsly

  10. cmoney says:

    I have a similar background as you. I was never adamantly sXe, I didn’t X up at shows or anything, but I didn’t drink for the majority of college (after drinking heavily in HS), and I was veg/vegan for most of it too. Sad times. What I find fascinating about the whole thing in retrospect is the degree in which we are capable of deluding ourselves. When I went veg, and edge, and all that shit, I convinced myself it was well thought out, that I truly believed this, and that I wasn’t just following a crowd or trying to be a special snowflake. I was smart and had convictions, man. 10 years later and I’m like “man what a retarded dumbass.”

    • Notderek says:

      This. I hate when I think I feel like I’ve completely thought something through, and truly believe in it, and youre not following the crowd, then a few years later you realize you were wrong, and was just trying to fit in with everyone who didnt fit it,

    • H says:

      Yeah you are a retarded dumbass.
      Sell-out.
      You are truly disgusting.

    • lulz says:

      all people with some intelligence do that i guess…sxe or not, we were all dumbasses 10 years ago! retrospective enabled = grown up

  11. Haystack says:

    This. Is. 100%. The. Truth. Thanks to be breaking gayxxxedge, I’ve had so much more fun with life n bishes. Being edge = total outcast/lameoid.

  12. RJG says:

    OMG Sarge quoted me in an article LIEF = COMPLETE!

    Serious/real-talk ahead. TLDR version = caring about stuff is dumb.

    At 30 I can safely say that I was only sxe/vegan because the majority of my friends were as well. I bought into the ideology because it gave me a sense of identity that I didn’t have via being an average, white, middle-class American. I wasn’t into sports or applying myself in high-school, I felt like I was smarter than my peers and had an issue with authority which is why an ideological framework that went against the grain and allowed me to look down on 99.99% of my peers was SO appealing.

    It was so deeply ingrained in who I thought I was that NOT being straightedge seemed wrong but I no longer felt that it was something that I needed. It stuck around for a few additional years because it was all I knew. I had always looked up to dudes that were edge for X amount of years. That number was a source of pride for them but eventually I realized how silly it was and how close this type of mentality was to a cult/religion. It seemed like an endless quest for purity with no defined end-game.

    When I realized that I had set myself back in real-world life due to touring and thinking I was a special snowflake I tried to distance myself from everything associated with who I was in the past. I did not want to be tied to a “lifelong commitment” that I had made at 16. If I had gotten married at that age I would have been ridiculed for having no idea what the fuck I was getting into.

    I realized that thinking of a beer as some morally apprehensible sin worthy of the dreaded “fucking sellout” label was incredibly immature. One drink was all that separated me from right and wrong. Was I going to go through the rest of my life vilifying alcohol based on an arbitrary moral code I assigned to myself 8 years before that?

    My issue is with the fact that it’s a intrinsically linked to a youth-culture and a framework based on giving a moral weight to the action of drinking. I came to the realization that constantly going against the grain as a basis for who I was would never amount to anything. I wanted to change, adapt and live without any set of arbitrary rules and couldn’t do that with these self-imposed restrictions.

    And to really hurt some butts I’ll end this with a bible quote; “When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.”

    • Walker says:

      My friend, what a well articulated post. I never got into straightedge but i think there is an analogue with any type of hobby or past time based around something childish- its shows a lack of commitment to what is important. Any sort of lifestyle where people prioritize the fun over the useful eventually alienates you from the vast majority of people who prioritize having a job/family over their goofy hobbies. I think this applies to anyone who identifies with some kind of subculture. if you are spending your time caring about a scene then you need to get your shit together

    • Sergeant D says:

      I felt like I was smarter than my peers and had an issue with authority which is why an ideological framework that went against the grain and allowed me to look down on 99.99% of my peers was SO appealing.

      Beautifully said, I tried to find a way to express this but couldn’t and you nailed it. Basically I was annoying little smugfag so naturally I loved the idea of joining a gay little club that was all about being better than everyone (although of course we all had some line about how it was ‘about respecting yourself’ the truth is we thought we were better than everybody which is ironic since we were actually huge faggots)

    • easyyolk5 says:

      Brb crying @ this beautiful post

  13. Chris says:

    Idk man, I feel like this post is kind of putting all people in a box. I’m straight edge and all of my friends, including the people I live with, are very not straight edge. It’s awesome being friends with them and I love them to death. I go to parties with them, order them alcohal when they want, and even let them smoke weed in our apartment. I’d never not date a girl because she wasn’t edge, that line of reasoning does lead someone to being real lonely. Maybe it’s because I claimed edge after I took it too far with drinking and drugs (which puts me squarley in the “sxe people are too weak to control themselves” catagory) but judging people for doing what they want to do when they are going to do it regardless of what you say is whack. This might just be some super evolved form of SSS, I don’t know, but you just got to live and let live.

    • Tears Of Buttstration says:

      cool so just don’t drink or do drugs, no need to claim edge.

    • VyceVictus says:

      Just jokes bro dont worry.

    • Sergeant D says:

      I think I was very clear that there is nothing wrong with not drinking or doing drugs, the dumb part is making that insignificant choice the whole basis for your identity.

      • ultraspatial says:

        Same thing with being vegan imo. It’s just a dietary choice (regardless of the reason behind it), not the very essence of your being. I’m vegan and I’m not really planning on dropping it, but I’m not gonna get VEGAN tattooed on my forehead and yell at my friends every time they order a hamburger.
        Some people need to face the fact that noone really gives a shit about what they shove inside their bodies.

    • BJ says:

      I’m in the same boat, bro. Did plenty of drinking and drugs from the ages of 12-19, took it too far a few times, saw some bad stuff happen to people close to me, recognized a family history of alcohol abuse (including my mom and aunt which stems to this day) and realized I needed to call it quits. But I’m chill about it, buy people drinks, go to parties/bars/clubs/shows where people are smoking out, etc.

      I think the problem is labeling yourself edge and making a big deal about it. My grandma is a devout Baptist and doesn’t swear, drink or do drugs, but she doesn’t get all up in people’s faces when they’re smoking a cigarette a Frisch’s and yell “STRAIGHT EDGE IN YOUR FACE.”

    • stayposibreh says:

      ur so nice for ordering alcohal

  14. VyceVictus says:

    Lol, disgusting knee

  15. Andrew says:

    I’m 26 years old and having the time of my life. Young, living in the big city, going out on weekends drinking and dancing, experimenting. Break edge right now.

  16. Nightshift says:

    If you’re straightedge, you’re a teenager. Whether you’re 15 or 38, still a teenager. If you claim it “saved your life”, Jesus H. Christ are you a child. All the shit out there in this big ugly disgusting world that can and will kill you and you have to swear off alcohol and drugs because you’re too fucking weak and immature to maintain any semblance of self-control? And instead of just owning up to your fucking weakness like a goddamn grown-up you identify with a douchey quasi-fascist cult and front like a hardass? Get the fuck off my jobsite, go be a camp counselor you dipshit.

    • Sergeant D says:

      If you’re straightedge, you’re a teenager. Whether you’re 15 or 38, still a teenager.

      boom, nailed it. that is exactly what i was trying to say, thank you.

      • Glitch says:

        This is such a backwards and bullshit mentality. That’s like saying if you smoke weed you’re a drug addict. These comments are essentially doing the same thing you people claim straight edge people do.

        “YOUR EDGE? YOU MUST BE A FUCKING 12 YEAR OLD!”
        “NO REASON TO CLAIM EDGE, BUT I”M GLAD I’M AMERICAN/SCHOOL ALUMNI/MEMBER OF A CLUB/etc.”
        “BEING UNIQUE IS FUCKING STUPID, DRINK TO HAVE FUN BECAUSE THATS WHAT EVERYONE ELSE DOES.”

        Such a convoluted post full of complete bullshit.

    • thetotalbro says:

      “Get the fuck off my jobsite, go be a camp counselor you dipshit”
      Slowclap.gif

    • Summoned Into Euphoric Swagness says:

      one of my best bros was a junkie from 12=15 years old. did everything from weed to crack, pills, meth, everytime of pill under the sun. his life was getting pretty lame by that point. then, he found hardcore and straightedge. it cleaned him up and made him into a stable individual. and started get life goals setup. He started playing guitar and all the extra time and he became a ridiculous guitarist. he was like that for 5 years and then broke edge because the rest of that scene were really judgmental. now all he does is drink occasionally and smoke a little weed rarely.

      So it probably DID save his life. he might still be doing meth if he wouldn’t have found hardcore/sxe.

      Yeah some people take it too militant and high and mighty. But there is a positive side to it as well. Went people actually use it do clean up their act.

      So

      • Sergeant D says:

        sxe didn’t save his life, he saved his own life.

        • Beck says:

          *gasp* amazing line

        • Summoned Into Euphoric Swagness says:

          whatever the semantics are, It was a source of inspiration to not drink or do drugs. hes alive and kicking because of breaking away from drugs. An odd friend is better that a dead one. And he also awares me to tons of sweet hardcore. all in all it sounds like a generally positive action to take. And as a metalfag im not one to care if sxe is cool/poser within the hardcore community.

          • dingdong says:

            Backed. In claiming edge, regardless of the longevity of the lifestyle, the claimant is committing themselves to be free from drugs/alcohol, etc.

            If that claim is a binding contract in their eyes, they’re going to stick to it.

            Sure he saved himself, but that mindset was a string in the bow.

          • roger_camden says:

            It may be a matter of semantics, but that doesn’t matter; semantics are important.

        • Keka says:

          A++++

          It’s like when someone says Jesus got them through being shot while the doctors who operated on them are standing right next to them.

        • Nightshift says:

          This exactly. You overcome by recognizing your worst shortcomings and dealing with them. There’s no sacred set of rules and rituals or a clique to follow. There is no ONE TRUE WAY, life isn’t that easy. And I don’t know this dude so I’m not saying it applies to him, but I get the feeling a whole lot of people exaggerate the shit out of their “demons” for dramatic effect.

  17. tim bresolin says:

    i started drinking after being sober for 7 years. drifted away from the straight edge thing a few years ago, but yea i have about 2 close friends… just realizing it was a unnecessary thing to do, because i don’t have to get smashed when i drink and its actually not that big of a deal.
    my partner is having a strange time with it, but only because its a change not because of the drinking, she has always drank.
    least now i am more sociable and gathering more friends already

    • tim bresolin says:

      i should mention i ditched most of my old friends because they broke edge… and yeah now im lonely as when it comes to mates.

  18. tim bresolin says:

    just been realising too those 7 years i was just limiting myself. drinking is not that big of a deal.. its like owning a dog. if you are a douchelord, your dog is going to be shit. if you are a fuckhead, when you drink, you’re gonna have a bad time.

  19. M'Kay says:

    I am the: “Nah, I’m good” person in this story. When people ask why I don’t drink, I run through my usual list of answers…but I always touch upon the point that I am not straightedge in image, I just happen follow their principles.

    • Kenny Riot says:

      Ditto. I was always the “nah, I’m good” guy. I just don’t drink or do drugs because I just don’t. I still went out to parties and clubs and shit anyways and had a good time. If anything, it was the odd friend here or there that took me being sober all the time WAAAAAAAY the fuck more seriously than I ever would. Like, they’d ask me if it was alright if they had a beer around me. Seriously? Drink your damn beer, I don’t care. Why would I care? If Alcohol offended me that badly, I wouldn’t be at the fucking party!

      I remember when I first heard the term “Straightedge”. Some friend of a friend of mine had asked me what kind of beer I like, and I told her I didn’t drink. She then got all disgusted with me and was like, “Oh…you’re straightedge?” I tell her, confused as hell at the term, “Um…no?” Then she’s insisting that I am simply because I don’t drink or smoke or anything like that. Why the fuck does it need a label, and why do you care so much about me NOT drinking?

      I remember this other time on the SomethingAwful.com forums where I had mentioned that I was something of a “lifetime designated driver for my friends” ’cause I don’t drink or anything, and all of a sudden all these people got butthurt as FUCK about that. Comin’ at me with shit like, “WHY DON’T YOU DRINK!?! DO YOU THINK YOU’RE BETTER THAN US!?!” Like, what the fuck? Why are people so bothered by me not drinking? Thankfully, it doesn’t happen that often, but when it does, it’s always hilarious.

      ‘sides, my many friends appreciate that I’m willing to DD for them so that they can have a good time and not worry about shit else because I’ve got their back.

      Fuck Straightedge.

      • surewhynot says:

        I’ve never understood why people get so up-in-arms about someone not drinking. I’m edge, have been for a while, and I don’t usually go to parties, (due to being a poor college student who needs to work every hour of every weekend to even afford shitty food to eat) but when I do everyone is almost offended that I don’t drink. I’m not getting on their cases about them drinking, so why are they getting on mine for not drinking? It doesn’t make any sense.

        This attitude is on both sides of the spectrum. It just shows that everyone, no matter what their lifestyle, is insecure and afraid when presented with an idea that doesn’t coincide with their own choices and beliefs.

      • roger_camden says:

        I never did drugs as a teenager. I used to say it was because “I preferred to stay in control”. Another good one: “I have so much going on in my head; imagine what a basket case I’d be if I were high”.
        What a crock of shit.
        I didn’t do drugs as a teenager because no one offered me any. For most of those years, none of my friends did anything.
        And I never had to deal with peer pressure. That McGruff/D.A.R.E. stuff was bullshit. The first time I was offered some smoke, I politely declined and ended up ruining everyone else’s fun. That I didn’t want to smoke down somehow made everyone ashamed, like I was going to judge them. They apologized and profusely claimed to be “quitting real soon, like tomorrow”. It sucked.

  20. refusetodie says:

    I think it’s really funny that it’s my 21st birthday today, I’m straight edge, and that you just posted this article. That being said, I don’t have any plans for breaking. I didn’t claim edge until after a year of college during which I experimented with a bunch of stuff and realized that I didn’t like any of it. Straight edge is basically just what I already want to do (be sober) with a bunch of X’s thrown in, and being a big fan of the letter X, and making a bunch of dumb jokes about firestorming people, it works for me. Also, all my friends don’t mind me being the sober guy and I still go to bars/parties with them cuz 1) I like fun and 2) someone’s gotta drive all these fools home.

    Hard cringing at that Kill Your Local Drug Dealer shirt though. I’m really stoked I’ve never seen one of those on a real person off the internet.

  21. BC says:

    I wasn’t edge as a teen because I wanted to live and keep my mind open to new experiences. Unfortunately various mind altering substances have a mostly negative effect on me because they cause me to have legitimate panic attacks due to some pretty major anxiety issues. So now I’m legal and very capable of doing anything but I choose not to because regular normal me likes to party, where as drunk or high me has panic attacks and needs to be babysat. I don’t call myself edge really but being part of the hardcore scene, the tag follows me around. Up to this point not drinking or getting high has not been an issue since most people who meet me wouldn’t know unless I told them. Just figured I would present the alternative for those who don’t partake in this stuff for reasons other than being XStraight EdgeX

  22. CynicalEmperor says:

    Srs though, where can I get that “Straight Edge means I have no friends” shirt!? lol

  23. Chillin' says:

    The one thing I do have to thank my awkward teen years for is that never getting drunk or high via not having any friends to do it with made me realize how sweet alcohol and drugs are. It sucked to be sitting in class, hearing about the crazy party that happened on Friday and thinking about my time spent donwloading stupid albums nobody else thinks sounded good.

    Hence, the one thing I was sure I wanted to do in college was to drink and fuck randoms.

    • Sven_McSven says:

      Fuuuuuccccckkkkkk I feel this man, in HS I was a massive IMN who didn’t have any friends to drink/do drugs with so I just went around claiming edge (An IMN claiming edge wut?) and talking shit on how people are ruining their lives and “I don’t need that shit to have fun”.
      Then I met a bunch of people who drink/are open to drugs and broke edge pretty much straight away l0l0l. Never looked back since.

      • Chillin' says:

        Haha, at least we got over it soon. The painful memories of HS are slowly but surely just becoming stuff I laugh at. “Yeah, what can I say, I was a dumb teenager.”

        Now all I need to do is figure out what to do with my embarrassingly large iTunes collection full of obscure avant-garde jazz albums (embarrassed to say I’m being srs).

        • Sven_McSven says:

          With that sorta shit you can just keep it as long as you don’t go around acting like a SS about it. Besides, who’s gonna look through your iTunes and give a crap anyway? Same goes for me and my embarrassingly large amount of Black mehtul and grindcore

  24. That other guy says:

    Being SxE is the most beta thing you could ever be (srs). I’m an outta shape dude, but gimme a couple beers and I’m talkin to complete strangers. Inb4 being outta shape is beta as fuq.

  25. Walker says:

    1) I don’t think that not drinking or drugging automatically makes you an asshole (Im not edge btw), but it is more your attitude towards it. if you identify that strongly with something and make it part of your personal brand then you will likely put everyone off, but if you are just like ‘no thx i dont drink’ then get back to whatever you are doing then no one even notices.

    2) further, i think a lot of people who dont drink basically dont put any conscious effort into not drinking. Ive never smoked a cigarette in my life, but i dont wake up every day thinking ‘one day at a time’ it just never even really occurs to me that cigarettes are a thing. i think that is probably the way most non-asshole non-drinkers act, they just dont even think about it until someone offers them a drink and they go ‘oh no thanks’.

    3) Imagine if people put as much effort into being proud of not doing actually important things as they do into stupid shit like not drinking and doing drugs or not believing in god. i like to think about a bunch of people running around boasting about how much they are not-rapists and how much better they are than rapists, how popular the not-rapist subreddit ought to be, how popular not-rapist thinkers ought to be minor celebrities, people making not-rapist memes which all of my stupid facebook friends think are funny. these people are pretty much in the same group as pot-culturists; they care way too much about unimportant shit.

  26. Dan says:

    I’m nearly 20 now, and I’ve been edge for about 4-5 years now officially. I was never into alcohol or drugs because I saw what it did to people, and my parents are smokers so that always drove me away from cigarettes. However, being edge is not my identity, it’s just a small part of me. Half the people that know me don’t even know I’m edge, because I barely ever even bring it up; I feel like a special snowflake faggot if I ever bring it up. I just say “nah I’ll pass.” And that’s it.

    I haven’t missed out on anything really, almost all of the girls at parties are really fucking stupid and usually fat (I’m in NYC, groce hipster/art student central). I’d rather a nice wifeable girl than some one-night smashable bish. None of my friends are edge, yet I get along with them fine. If I ever don’t get along with somebody, it’s because I’m a heavily opinionated asshole, not because I’m edge.

    • I’d rather a nice wifeable girl than some one-night smashable bish.

      HAVEN’T WE SAID THIS LIKE A HUNDRED TIMES BEFORE YOU SHOULD BE SMASHING EVERY SINGLE RANDO CHANCE THAT FALLS WITHIN LIKE 4 STANDARD DEVIATIONS OF YOUR IDEAL SCALE. I WAS THE SAME AT 20 BUT YOU GOTTA TURN THAT SHIT AROUND FAST BECAUSE 25 OR 26 YEAR OLD YOU IS GONNA WANT TO TURN AROUND AND THROTTLE YOUR PUNK LITTLE 20 YEAR OLD NECK. TRUST ME BRO STAY STRONG AND LOVELY AND ABILITYWORTHY

    • roger_camden says:

      If I ever don’t get along with somebody, it’s because I’m a heavily opinionated asshole, not because I’m edge.
      What an unsurprising coincidence.
      Are you sure that correlation ≠ causation in this example?

  27. Maverick says:

    In high school I chose not to drink or do drugs. Eventually, I heard the term “straight edge” when getting into Minor Threat via being into Slayer, and I thought, “cool, this is an idea that other people have had before, I’ll kind of absorb this into my identity,” so I started using that term to refer to myself. Eventually, I started college and stopped wearing my really gay red Minor Threat shirt and started drinking, and it was fun. I’m really thankful that I never understood that straight edge was “supposed” to be some big commitment, something you swear by and get tattoos for—otherwise, I probably would have been incurable via being ultra loyal to everyone and everything.

    Side note, my AMERICAN PIE EXCEPT IRL story of the week: had an excellent housewarming party at my condo last night. Around 2, my neighbor came out in a baggy t shirt and told those of us chilling on my roof to go inside and shut up, etc. As I was getting off my roof (which has a handrail so you can climb up whilst holding a beer in your hand), she asked me with a face full of stank-bitch, “Why are you on the roof?” to which I replied, “Because we’re on the roof.” THIS MOMENT BROUGHT TO YOU BY BREAKING EDGE.

  28. Maverick says:

    Also, Sarge, you’ve mentioned a few times that your mom is a total hippie. Did she always encourage you to do SSS type things? If your mom was more normal, would you have been more mnstrm yourself? Do you think your dad being a corrections officer helped you drop sxe, veganism, and JNCOs?

    • Sergeant D says:

      Yes, my mom definitely encouraged me to be a fucking weirdo/faggot. Thanks, mom :/

      My dad is the only person in my family who isn’t retarded, and any part of my character that doesn’t suck (ie that i am responsible, timely, will to admit my mistakes, etc) is absolutely from his influence.

  29. Anonymous says:

    Not sheriff weird that I’ve never met a single sxe person in my life.

    Could be largely to do with coming from Australia where alcoholism is a birth rite/badge of pride (via all being convicts).

    • thetotalbro says:

      you guys are my heros (half-srs)

    • Jonnyfilth says:

      Patriotic_salute.gif

    • Beck says:

      I met a few In SE Qld (back in the day) >8yrs ago… 90% broke edge on a monthly-yearly basis

      • Jonnyfilth says:

        I live there now, the straight edge disease hit my friends about 7 years ago and literally none of them are still edge. They are so much more fun now

        • Sergeant D says:

          I really want to emphasize that my point is not about whether sxe makes you fun or cool or anything like that, it’s about whether being sxe makes you a happier, better person in the long run- my point is that I really don’t think it does (via arrested social development and being into something weird that nobody else gives a shit about)

          • Jonnyfilth says:

            To clarify- I know what you mean and i agree, all my friends who were edge were the obnoxious annoying butthole kind of edge kids who were genuinely unpleasant to be around. Now that they’re not edge, they’re more laid back and happy to let everyone else do whatever without fountains of butthurt. They seem a lot happier and are further progressed in their own social lives, and not a burden on their friends.

      • dingdong says:

        Lived as SxE bro in Central Qld for 28 months, many good times had with my non-edge brothers.

        I never realised that people (read: Queenslanders) drank so much alcohol (My dad is an alcoholic).

        My workplace was diagonally across a roundabout from a Dan Murphy’s (Aus liquor store chain) and every Friday without fail, the roundabout would be choked up with cars trying to get into the under-estimated car-park. Customers would usually be wheeling out 3-4 cases of booze (minimum). It blew my mind.

  30. ultraspatial says:

    Used to be sxe as a teenager. Never made a big deal out of it though… It was mostly the people around that were like “omg how can u not drink?!?! are u sick or smth?!?”. Don’t really regret it tbh, as I couldn’t give a fuck about the people I knew back then, but it’s not like I was some lonely loser either (even hung out with people who used to deal lol).
    Anyway, realised when I got at 20 that I’m super srs all the time, more pretentious, harder to deal with than before etc, and tbh I’d be fine with that, but it’s just that I was having almost no fun and I want to enjoy shit while I still can, before having to “get my shit together” or whatever. Now I’m not saying that sxe sucks, if you’re happy with that then it’s fine. It’s just not for me. I enjoy being fucked outta my mind and chatting up random 9s too much.

  31. SolarFlareSuperior says:

    I used to be edge from 16-19. Broke edge in feb or march this year. I feel at least in high school it was a good thing that I was and I just stayed edge after graduating cuz I was with an edge chick( who’s now a huge self-proclaimed stoner YOLO trill/swag chick lol. Funny how people can change after a break up). What got me to break edge was this 23 year old chick in my philosophy class who I tried to get with. While I didn’t stab the guts unfortunately bc she was super PC and wasn’t into my messed up crude sense of hunour and the fact that I was 19 lol. However I did party at her place with a bunch or her OTW friends and got wasted. Haven’t looked back since. Thanks sarge and SYWH for making become a better person. I finally understand how lolzy and beta straightedge is, that it’s bad to whiteknight, and that it’s gay to care about stuff ESP dumb shit like
    People’s musical tastes. I still love hardcore and stuff but I now jam out to LMFAO Unironically and love em

  32. benj says:

    Most of the points in here are pretty valid. I was never edge but have always had some degree of respect for it. I drink a shit ton and will do p much any drug, and that’s fun and awesome but you know, kind of gay also. I know plenty of people in their 30s who are still straightedge and have serious jobs, good friends and generally sweet lives. Some are still involved in hardcore, some aren’t. None of them are out there waving the flag or anything. Sensing a lot of buttpain in the comments. I don’t know why straightedge seems to bug people so much. I def get the argument
    that it’s more fulfilling to be normal, but not
    everyone is. Also the new breed of youth crew fetishizing nerd virgin record collectors do bug me a little. Whatever, you know?

    • Sergeant D says:

      I don’t think we are hating on sxe so much as pointing out that (contrary to what many of us used to think), it doesn’t really make you a happier person in the long run.

  33. dankmathus says:

    Was this inspired by the 40 year old virgin being on comedy central the past few days? Lol

  34. andyexpandy says:

    I’m 20 and I’m edge. I’ve done the whole alcohol thing and going out partying (drinking age is 18 in australia) and I got over it real quick. I have no urges to drink and I have no sense of superiority at all. I also have fuckloads of friends and am an all round awesome dude who still goes out/parties/drives people places. Life would be so much better if edge people didn’t care that people drank and people who drank didn’t care that people wanna be edge haha.

  35. TLDR says:

    Finally, the post we’ve all been waiting for. Well written, Sarge.

    My thoughts (26, edge for almost 11 years now):

    Nobody who bought this t-shirt ever stepped to a drug dealer, or even intended to. They just bought it because they wanted everybody to look at them and be like ‘omg u have such excessively strong opinions u must be a rly unique and interesting person’

    100% true. I always thought these types were the filth of gay and have never not been embarrassed to share a subculture with them. Plus, fuck everything about that sentiment, some of my best friends and family were/are drug dealers and I <3 them and don't want them to die.

    disgusting knee DED

    Staying sxe is a one-way ticket to being a socially retarded weirdo

    </3 but srs doe, this was inevitable for some of us, me especially.

    “people who are sxe over the age of 25 are always making status updates about $10 an hour jobs, buying records/comics, and other embarrassing crap.”

    Selective observation fallacy. Yes, of course there are edge people who do this and those are the ones you NOTICE (because they are doing noticeably negative shit). There are also tons of drug users like this. My most successful friends are older edge dudes with careers and wives/srs gfs who have their shit together and are homeowners. The thing is that for these people, straight edge is not a significant part of their life/identity anymore. They have outgrown the label, but still live the same lifestyle (this is how I feel about it).

    There seems to be a very silly view in this post/comments that edge = little kids, partying = adulthood. This is also flat out bullshit. In no way am I saying that the equation is the other way around, but I also know many people who were heavily into drugs in their teens/early twenties, then got their shit together and got real jobs and who describe partying as high school bullshit the same way some people describe straight edge. Of course there is moderation and whatnot, but my point is that drug use does not make you a "mature adult," and is in no way part of being one (doesn't prevent you from being one, either).

    The bottom line is that getting wasted, acting like an idiot and having sex with random people is fucking awesome, and you will be missing out on that if you’re sxe

    I’m not against this in any way, but in no way does this sound appealing. It’s the same with homosexuality: I 100% support gay rights, but have no desire to fuck other dudes. In fact, this is my response when people keep asking me why I don’t drink, after I politely tell them several times “I just don’t, its not my thing.”

    Finally, this blog heavily emphasizes the “positives” of drug use (fun), but ignores the very serious negatives. I come from a family with a roughly 50% alcoholism rate, so the earliest impressions of drugs I got were my uncle dying of lung cancer (he was a lifetime smoker) on my birthday and my Mom’s subsequent near decade of depression and substance abuse, and the family dysfunction it caused. It’s not all fun and games. Of course the worst case scenario is not usually the case, but some of us are genetically predisposed to addiction. I also do not think that my story is unique or even exceptional among edgebros, I’ve met many others just like me.

    For years, people have tried to tell me that me breaking edge would result in me having fun, being sociable and enjoying life more. In reality, I think its much more likely that I would end up even more alone, isolated and depressed, sitting in my room drinking alone and being miserable (a la Bukowski). I am naturally depressed for no reason almost all the time, and I only know of one blood relative who has NOT been prescribed antidepressants/antianxiety medications. I am enough of a fuck up as it is, I can only imagine what kinds of decisions I might have made if drugs had been involved, especially at certain points in my life.

    In case this wasn’t obvious, I have absolutely no problem with anyone who is not edge/does drugs. I have never, ever been militant about straight edge, I’m not about to hate my own family members.
    This is America, do what you want.

    • tr00 herper says:

      I support your plight to not die in a ditch with a needle in your arm. Stay strong bbs

    • Sergeant D says:

      My mom is an alcoholic. My stepsister ODd at 20 (dead). Of my 8 uncles, 1 got murdered by my aunt and 4 or 5 of the others have done time for drugs. My family has been totally fucked by drugs and alcohol, yet it doesn’t stop me from enjoying them.

      • Sergeant D says:

        Anyway, you seem to have missed that whether you do or dont use drugs/alcohol is not at all the point of this post. The point is about having an identity that revolves around something so trivial is weird.

        • Chillin' says:

          This, but what I just can’t understand is why you wouldn’t just have a beer or two if you get invited to hang out at the local bar or you know, have a glass of wine while doing that business deal over dinner.

          It just seems to me that being edge serves no purpose in life at all. Surely one or two beers or stopping when you get tipsy makes more sense in the longrun since you aren’t the one dude at the party not drinking or whatnot.

          It just seems like such an arbitrary line to draw around yourself and your life choices. y limit ur potential?

          • Moose says:

            Look. Nobody has to drink if they don’t want to; if they are quietly abstaining and not making it a big deal, but that still makes other people feel uncomfortable, that is not the non-drinker’s problem. That is the problem of their oversensitive drinking friends.

            Many alcoholics/recovering alcoholics cannot have “just one or two drinks” and remain secure in their sobriety. For some, alcoholism is a physical addiction that can be triggered by having just one drink. They should not have to face pressure to do something that is extremely harmful to their lives just to make others around them more “comfortable.”

            I personally love the taste of beer, but hate the way it makes me feel. I’m a lightweight, and after one glass I get tired and unfocused, and after two glasses I have a headache and can’t articulate what I want to say. Then I start getting angry. It is not fun or entertaining. It should make no difference to you if I order something nonalcoholic from the bar, seriously.

            I don’t claim edge, and I honesty could not care less whether others choose to drink (safely, please). But I get really fucking pissed when they judge me for my choices, the same way you do when sxe kids judge you for yours.

            • TLDR says:

              Look. Nobody has to drink if they don’t want to; if they are quietly abstaining and not making it a big deal, but that still makes other people feel uncomfortable, that is not the non-drinker’s problem. That is the problem of their oversensitive drinking friends.

              This times a million.

        • B. Edge says:

          “having an identity that revolves around something so trivial is weird.”

          dot dot dot . . . . . .

          “My mom is an alcoholic. My stepsister ODd at 20 (dead). Of my 8 uncles, 1 got murdered by my aunt and 4 or 5 of the others have done time for drugs.”

          Yeah, sounds pretty trivial to me.

          • roger_camden says:

            Nice card-stacking, brah.
            Left out the crucial sentence.
            My family has been totally fucked by drugs and alcohol, yet it doesn’t stop me from enjoying them.

  36. The great blue C says:

    THNK U SRAGE. U help me through the tough times. My dad was and straight edge.

    I rember wen he wud came home sober, and mak my mother listen to minor thret.
    Those wer dark days I hid under the bed until he eithr fell asleep or went to a vegn grocery store.

    I used to think edge was norml. I thought everyone dad was edge. Until I found out most dads go out an have fun.

    thnk u srge put millions on the right path.

  37. tr00 herper says:

    I’ve always wondered whether a straight edge phase in someone’s life can help smooth the cracks of their personality and life style. i.e. some of my mates have become very self indulgent with drugs and alcohol and shit and I wonder if when it gets bad they go a year cold turkey & sxe. That way they’ll come out of it just non indulgent and just recreational. But it’s just a theory.

  38. Summoned Into Euphoric Swagness says:

    Metalfag here.

    Ive had quite a few SXE friends. Like 95% of them were awesome bros and were invited to the parties and had fun as well. Ive never dealt with the militant ones so can’t say anything about em’. One thing Ive noticed is that the younger(especially) hardcore/straightedge dudebrahs have all been respectful and tolerant to everyone regardless of what drug they tried sharing. Usually with a “no-thanks homie”. thats cool as fuck in my book.

    • Sergeant D says:

      I think militant sxe is basically a myth. I mean I’m sure there are some crazy people somewhere in the world who will punch you for smoking near them but in my 20+ years of being involved with hardcore pretty much every sxe person I’ve known has been like you described.

      • Summoned Into Euphoric Swagness says:

        Also, they all had tons of friends are were all generally well liked dudes.

        I must have missed the point of your initial post? sorry?

      • uppercut613 says:

        lol i had this friend growing up who got into the hardcore scene who told me a story about how the vocalist of liferuiner was “hardline militant edge” and would knock someone out for drinking a beer

        this kid lied about everything though

        the only time i heard about violent straight edge people was some “gang” in reno nevada or something. idk it still might be on youtube if you look it up.

        • thesaddestcat says:

          srs, reno has a militant sxe scene (i know because i live here and sxe is classified and considered to be a gang by reno pd). it wasn’t unusual to hear of sxe kids offering kids cigarettes and if a kid took one they would jump him. shit’s wack yo and because of it most touring bands avoid reno like the plague.

          • TLDR says:

            Played Reno in January, shit was awesome and absolutely no problems with militancy. This has been my universal experience with Reno

            • thesaddestcat says:

              Where’d you play? Ryland? If so that’s because Adam (of Accept Yourself Productions and CodeXRed) has been working super fucking hard to improve the perception of the sxe scene. Props to Adam, he’s an awesome dude. The sxe scene has gotten better but still the stigma remains.

  39. xmoix says:

    Hey there Captain! This is a cool article :) i’m sxe but I really found that I only need to be it for myself and get along with the resto of the world. I’m very happy nowadays hahahahahahahaha Keep the good work!

  40. Beck says:

    Heya, I pretty much just read this site to see what is prevalent in kids’ lives these days (I’ve just gone 30, Aussie, living in Scotland, too old to be cool).

    Just wanted to say 1- this is a fantastic article.

    2- I admire you using your old dude wisdom to broaden the minds of the youths, cause if I remember correctly, my early 20s especially, was a very close-minded time for me.

    3- Too many incredible points/lines to give props to.

    Brown-nosing complete.

  41. uppercut613 says:

    i dont drink or smoke weed but ive never claimed edge. im not too fond of drinking and i have this intense adverse reaction to smoking weed that makes it one of the scariest/ most unsettling experiences i could ever put myself through.

    i think it is weird that people would base their identity on something so trivial as well though. for me, the concept of a “straight edge” band seems so weird…where all their lyrics are about being straight edge and thats all they sing about. its funny too that they view drinking/doing drugs as such a negative thing yet theyre so proud to not do it. i mean if they see it as so negative why dont they flaunt the fact that they dont rape bitches and steal from poor people and start a genre about that.

    • xpedox says:

      “i mean if they see it as so negative why dont they flaunt the fact that they dont rape bitches and steal from poor people and start a genre about that.”

      ^ ded. This wins so much

  42. Ink Deep says:

    In my first year of college I went to a club to try and make friends and asked for a bottle of water at the bar. The bartender laughed in my face and I walked home and went straight into my dorm and played Half-Life for the rest of the night.

    Straight Edge. Not even once.

  43. xpedox says:

    Meh i went sxe at 19, its pretty much same as i’d go 22 sxe in the states. I’m antisocial anyways, and mostly i hate everyone, but i still party the same way as i did when i was younger. Does that make me weird? I actually think im better company when im sober (i remember that i was more quiet when i was drunk) and usually im saying all the wrong and stupid shit anyway so people either hate me or love me on the spot. And i really dont make a big deal out of it, i tend to have a fucking fun time with my friends, they usually make a big deal out of it though to everyone else that i dont drink.

    I just fucking hate it when people start to ask me WHY YOU NO DRINK ALCOHOL YOU WEIRD. But yeah, back here in Finland people are shut,miserable, and fucking bleak anyways so its kinda weird to be sober, mostly people who come around here actually wonder why the fuck we drink so much (alcoholism is liek the leading “sickness” in finland = homicides, suicides, heart diseases etc).Even though some countries have more consumption per capita, Finland tends to have more related problems to it. One good example is that in our screenwriting class we watched this film about an alcoholic woman and afterwards when we analyzed why the film was so easy to relate, was that 45/50 people have severe case / cases of alcoholism in their close family. Even my uncle is a alcoholic who passed out twice in a year with a cigarette in bed and a sofa and currently 75% of his body is severely burned, and my great uncle drinked himself to death.

    But yeah beind straight edge is fucking dumb, but meh works for me at least right now. Thats why i never say till i die

    • xpedox says:

      fml should learn to proofread before hand, passed out on the bed and on the sofa…

      and like someone before hand said, being straight edge for yourself, not for others is more fun!

      even though i started being sxe as a joke.

  44. scapegoatzzz says:

    The same day I broke edge I got a blowjob.
    Alcohol 1
    Straight Edge 0

  45. nils says:

    what do straight edge people in their 30s say when they are at a wedding and their uncle offers them a glass of wine? Do they start talking about minor threat/earth crisis and how they don’t drink poison? seems a little awkward

    • Jonnyfilth says:

      Do they get the wedding band to play a cover of Minor Threat while he yells at everyone?

    • Sergeant D says:

      ^ this is EXACTLY what i am talking about.

    • Anonymous says:

      acualy say “No Thanks” and thats the end of it, EZ

      not hard or weird at all, plenty of adults don’t drink. Any adults hassling you about NOT drinking just look like overgrown frat boys.

      • Latinoheat!!! says:

        pshh… frat boys rule!! wish i had a frat homie…

        imagine the possibilities!!! parents pick up tab since frat boi homie is spoiled as fuck… keg stands…. access to american pie/college (da movie!!) style frat parties… sorority bish access!!! networking to get nice cushy corporate job…hot mnstream sluts at every corner at university quad when i visit said frat boi homie…. plus did i forget to mention the unlimited amount of retarded stupid students w/ useless degrees like : Latin-American/chicano studies, communications, anything social science, english, history, and my fav; Wemyns Studies!!!

        wish my parents were educated successful rich liberals n shit and could afford to send me to UCLA/USC/Insert Ivy-league or Pac 10 uni here!!

  46. Notderek says:

    The collective knowledge, and overall positivity/anti butthurt of the SYWH community really is inspiring to me. U guys r the best.

  47. Anonymous says:

    Bro I went to a party once with my a X on my right hand, left was covered in bandages due to getting gnarly on a skateboard in case you give a fuck. Then told everybody I was straight edge and got in their face about how they were scum. Of course nobody as I was drinking the entire time but whatever.

  48. fist meet face says:

    [youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0iKiWJSYw0&w=420&h=315

    420 drink grapefuit juice at parties erryday

  49. Chris says:

    But alcohol tastes like shit?
    Cigarettes on the other hand…

  50. angelofdef says:

    Was sxe in highschool, but mainly because me and my friends didn’t have us older brothers to buy us alcohol, it was just more convenient to think we weren’t fucked up on principle rather than lack of resources.

  51. XDOLPHINX says:

    My whole life up to this point has been a lie…

    • XDOLPHINX says:

      It seems there are a lot of buttsad edge, and non-edge ppl on this post. I personally agree with this post 100% due to fact I’ve lived my life for me, and enjoyed being a “regularassdude”. I also agree with the whole “no need for labels thing” too. What I would like to see are a few more ppl thinking for themselves. You wannabe the first Straightedge President of the United States? Great, run when you get old enough. I might even vote for you. Don’t come in here and apologize for being you. Some dude was all “I know i’m edge, but don’t hate me Sarge:(“. I’ve never asked my friends to stop being themselves, and I don’t think Sarge intended for you to ask for sywh’s permission to be straightedge.

      I have edge friends that are well adjusted adults with family’s, ones that work, hit the gym, and be lonely, and ones in-between the two. idk, I’ve never really thought about the subject of this post, because they’ve never made a big deal out of it, and never tried to make me feel stupid for drinking. Do I think joining a straight edge club, and playing dodge ball is “lame”? Yes, somewhat, but I think having a roommate that blows all his $$$ on blow is equally lame if not lamer.

      Don’t ever let anyone tell you who are. Like I said, Sarge is just giving his opinion. You’re not Sarge.

  52. Mister Booze says:

    This is why I love this blog. I had no idea that straightedge was still a thing. Weird.

    • Sergeant D says:

      Seems like it should have stopped being a thing a long time ago, but being an uptight faggot is making a comeback so it’s actually more popular than ever

      • Anonymous says:

        Ehhhh I seriously doubt this. IMO edge really is dying. I remember playing a show in LA with Minority Unit, and discussing with all the other over the hill (25+) hardcore bros about how their singalong “Los Angeles Straight Edge on another fucking level” consisted almost entirely of non edge people.

        There are plenty of ways to be an uptight faggot that don’t involve edge (ie veganism, social causes)

        • Latinoheat!!! says:

          Being edge in L.A is fucken retarded!!!

          liquor stores/clubs/bars in every corner will shurely be your demise you boston-beatdown phag!!!

          i surely hope rotting out isn’t edge doe cuz dat wood break my heart!!

  53. Open Window Maniac says:

    Like many of these bros, I was also a straight edge teenager once. Part of me looks back at it and says “omg i was such an fggt,” but for the most part I’m happy with it. Like most young men, I have this tendency to do mindbottlingly stupid things for no reason and I probably would have ended up arrested or in the hospital if alcohol. But I was definitely gay as fuck for walking around school wearing an EarthxCrisis shirt that had an entire novel about liberal animation and drug free on the back of it, pure pussy repellant.

  54. AntiHero says:

    So, I haven’t read through all the comments (tl;dr), but I think the main thing to take away here is to not be judgmental of others. No one cares if you don’t drink, smoke, fuck, whatever… just shut up about it. I’ve had more than a few friends who didn’t get wasted and they were still really chill. Pretty much just a “nah thanks” and had fun messing around with us while we got wasted. You don’t have to become part of the party scene to have friends, you just have to be accepting that 98% of the world get’s down with drugs, alcohol, and sex.

    Summary: Keep your beliefs to yourself, accept people for who they are = More friends

  55. qweasd says:

    Was edge for close to a year when I was 15. None of my friends did it, no one even knew what straight edge was when I told them. As soon as I realised no one gave a shit, I realised that what I was doing was pointless, super ghey and was based entirely on gaining attention for being “different.” I then had a beer, stopped being a faggot, stabbed some guts and hung out with my bros. It was awesome.

  56. cmoney says:

    Possible next installments in this series:

    1. Why I started dressing like an adult (and you def should too)
    2. Why I stopped riding a fixed gear bike (and you prob should too, or at least put some fucking breaks on the damn thing)
    3. Why I started playing sports besides kickball/dodgeball/4square (i.e. real sports)

    • nimplysaked says:

      ‘Why I started dressing like an adult (and you def should too)’

      This article would def improve my life. I’m 25 and only recently have tried dressing more like an adult and less like a man-child. I dunno if D would be best qualified to write dis doe since he once said he dresses like a Korean wigger XD

      • cmoney says:

        I’m sitting in my cube with my Kid Dynamite t-shirt and jeans so I probably shouldn’t either. Lax engineering jobs ftw.

        But seriously, I’m planning on a totally new wardrobe by Thanksgiving. When I dress a bit nicer for work, I just feel better, carry myself better, and get a few looks and compliments from the few chicks who work at places like this. But I still have days, like today, where I wake up tired and I’m like fuck it t-shirt and jeans time. Coincidentally I haven’t gotten shit accomplished today.

      • DarthZedd says:

        I actually just got into to dressing like an adult. I’m almost 22 and I’ll have a big-boy office job soon.

        All about dem khakis, cardigans, and collared shirts. I fucking love it, but shopping at The Gap and Old Navy isn’t for everyone.

      • Lars Weiss says:

        ‘Why I started dressing like an adult (and you def should too)’

        Spoke to Sarge a little while back about doing a “lifestyle” post on something along these lines. Thinking I may get on it sooner than later…

      • Beck says:

        It’s a life changer!

    • Sandy Duncan's Glass Eye says:

      Honestly, dressing like an adult can make all the difference. Not hard either. Jeans that actually fit right and well-fitted button down shirts and a pair of understated but still nice black/brown leather shoes. Good to go.

      And for fucks sake, purchase a real, tailored suit by the time you are 20. Getting a suit tailored costs about $20-$30 and is the difference between looking like a boss and a defendant. None of this costs much money, it just looks that way.

      • nimplysaked says:

        I have a tailored suit, I dress well for work etc just referring to what I wear outside of work. I almost exclusively wore band t-shirts up until about a year ago :s but now I have some smart/casual shirts that I am happy to wear on nights out. I draw the line at wearing shoes on a night out though, but I think a clean, smart pair of trainers looks way better than the beat up school shoes I see the local chavs and old men rocking on a Friday night in town.

      • RJG says:

        This brah basically just nailed exactly what I was wearing. H & M button up, John Varvatos jeans and suede oxfords.

        Here’s the thing it’s NOT about “what my job allows me to wear” it’s about dressing like, well, an adult. Wearing the uniform of a teenager will SHOCKINGLY get you treated like a teenager.

        esquire.com (good tips and fashion guides even though you can’t afford a $10k sheerling wool overcoat.
        gilt.com – good prices/sales on some legit brands
        needsupply.com – little pricey/hipster fggty but good for shoes.

        If you have a Nordstrom Rack or Off 5th around you, hit those up often for pretty inexpensive stuff.

        And for fucks sake, purchase a real, tailored suit by the time you are 20. Getting a suit tailored costs about $20-$30 and is the difference between looking like a boss and a defendant. 1000% accurate!

  57. The shirt in the first pic is so god damn accurate.

    between years 8 and 10 of school I had zero friends and everyone just assumed that I was straightedge and reacted in shock when they found out that I was not.

  58. jake says:

    as someone who ironically wears a preachy earth crisis t-shirt to the gym from time to time, i am glad that straightedge exists solely for the HILARIOUS merch concepts like the ones shown in this article.

  59. Kris says:

    Posting to say that if I didn’t drink I wouldn’t currently have a girlfriend and my number of friends would probably be divided by 3.

  60. nimplysaked says:

    U.K. brah here, I’ve always found straight edge hilarious as I only found out it exists and is a ‘thing’ after listening to U.S. hardcore. Not saying everyone here drinks, of course there is a minority who don’t, I was just mind = blown that anyone would create an identity around something they DIDN’T do! Met a few edgefags over here but they only seem to be into it cos they reaaallly like hardcore and somehow thinking that imitating American scene kids makes them cool, they couldn’t really give a shit about the philosophy behind it or whatever.

    As someone else rightfully pointed out, from what I can gather from lulzy shit I have seen online and talking to douchebag edge kids I have met at shows they just have other vices instead; they claim they are all about healthy living but will then stuff their faces with pizza and doritos and especially candy (or sweets as we like to say), and are often heavily into coffee etc. I wonder if they realise by consuming sugar they are technically breaking edge!

  61. xheartburnX says:

    I used to see this kid at HxC shows in DC that had XXX Straight Edge across his throat. I want to know what happened to that guy.

    I agree with everything said. I know quite a few people that just don’t drink. They also don’t listen to HxC, so they have no idea what SxE is. They just don’t drink or do drugs. They go to bars with us, and hang out an be normal. They are mostly completely normal people, and come out to parties and are fine.

    I am also 30+, and when I was 21 everyone I hung out with drank and stuff, so maybe this is just what happens when you become a regular functioning adult with a good job and friends.

  62. Mars Bar says:

    I’m a “Nah I’m Good” dude right now, but just cuz alcohol is bad for dem aesthetics.

  63. (curvedEdgeCrusty) says:

    Good site 4 lulz & experiencing the worst of sXers :D
    http://iamstraightedge.com/2010/08/28/straight-edge-sellout-void/

  64. Anonymous says:

    not str8 edge, but this post reeks of butthurted “you do that thing i dont liek!!”

  65. moot58 says:

    Moar liek GAY edge!!!

  66. Kittycatman says:

    I’m 21.
    I’m edge.
    I’m a faggot.

    But I’m ok with that. I don’t care what other people do. I agree that militant straight edge is a myth. I have an edge tattoo(teenage stuff brah) but its not about attaining scene points or anything anymore(the more and more hardcore I listen to, the fewer of them I find are edge so being edge would be counter-productive at this point). I don’t think people are poisoning themselves, and even if they are, it really doesn’t matter to me. It’s habit now, but I can still go to parties, hang and have plenty of fun.

    In conclusion: straight edge=not a big deal
    being a whiny faggot, whether it be militant straight edge or you “straight edge is for gays” bros=worst of the worst.

  67. drunk says:

    I call bullshit on every “yeah I’m sorta straight edge but I don’t really talk about it” comment.

  68. meatcore says:

    Being straight edge is a personal choice and i think everyone should consider it just on the basis of what and where they’re living in day by day basis but hey,since when was supposed to be a movement? and why people get super upset when someone is edge but is still eating meat? like
    Slapshot = oldest straight edge scumbags and no one gives shit about them? maybe because they still say fuck off to all the positive veggie bands? They’re still better than Y.O.T/Earth Crisis and the pimple ass supposed militant metal edge faggots out here…. I dont get people srs
    And this brings me back to my first band.Total thrashcore jamz and beerbongs playing Strife (who are now recording with Igor Cavalera,Sarge u know somethin?) and Slapshot songs to the edge kids lolololo aaaah the memoriez…..if i
    I had a dollar for every girl straight edge that I banged then now I would probably have retired without ever had to work anymore in my life!

    girls cant be straigh edge is a fact

    • fist meet face says:

      choke is now some like amyl popping club dj so this post isnt valid

    • Sergeant D says:

      slapshot is an unbelieveably shitty band, i dont think its any mystery why they have no currency in 2012

      • meatcore says:

        still moar tr00 than youth of togay even if choke would do a dubstep project.Yo say no currency? they say no fucks giveh! btw look forward to Strife feat.Igor Cavalera jamz – pretty sure shit will be hard!

        Is the gingerbearded dude their singer still?

  69. fist meet face says:

    i will say this ive met one straight edge girl and that jawn was beat

    still slammed tho but honestly edge sex = not that good

  70. Wow this shit really blew up overnite.

    Im a “sXe”. Im almost 20 now. I followed the whole hxc/scene/everything else music got plagued with movement. I was also a social retard during most of late middle school/early hs. And ironically, a metalfag. Then I hit some rough shit and went thru the emo phase for about 2 years. The girl who broke up with me wound up being a teen drinker/pothead. I kept edge bc I thought it made me feel “superior” to her in some way. Like I could help her see the light in things instead of getting wasted or cutting. Then half way into highschool i pretty much demanded the school to put me in regular ed, which non-ironically they did. Then i met the kid who is my best friend today. After lots of social networking and having dumbfuck fun and cutting school a lot, I got to see the fun people were having. Still stayed edge.reconnected with my ex, found out she got so drunk and faded that she got forced to a bed and raped. (Mind you she was 14/15). Had a super hard edge phase, until eventually i said fuxk it and got drunk one night. It took a four loko, about seven shots of some other shit, and me chugging straight from a vodka bottle (which ironically my very unedge friends cant even do. I had a fucking blast that night and didnt puke or get a hangover or nothin. Feelsgoodman. And ya know what, I went back to being “sxe” two days later. Truth is its bound to get bent, rules are sometimes made to be broken. Sure, you can have fun not drinking. You can have just as much and sometimes more drinking. To make a long story short Shit happens its clearly how we learn life lessons for when were older. Anyways me and her are usually the “babysitters” of the parties and hangouts now. Lol. Not too edge but not too dumb either. Feelsgood.

    Btw every ones comments were TLDR and ironically I practically wrote a biography. XD

    • fuzz says:

      sorry brah, but I’m pretty sure a big part of the sXe lifestyle is never drinking or doing drugs, ever. that includes you drinking a Four Loko, seven shots of whatever, and that bottle of vodka. you can’t really call yourself a tr00 edgebro

  71. Meatface says:

    Something no has touched on yet was that there is this whole ‘drug war’ culture of brainwashing going on that pretty much ruined my life (srs). I explain. When you’re a kid from a family of crazy alcoholics who ‘get there shit together’ they end up indoctrinating you with all this ‘alcoholism is a disease’ and ‘children of alcoholics are likely to become alcoholics’ and all this other fucking BS. I was convinced that if I even touched booze that I would instantly end up drinking myself to death. BECAUSE ITS A DISEASE. YOU’LL CATCH IT TOO!!!!111one

    Fuck you. No it’s not.

    I love my dad to death but he didn’t drink because he had a fucking disease, he drank because he had severe PTSD. Instead of getting him some much needed therapy they sent him to alcoholics anonymous and pronounced him ‘cured’. The fact that he still loses his shit every time he hears fireworks? noooo, that’s perfectly fucking normal.

    ANYWAY, if you are out there getting hammered at lunch, it’s not the booze that made you do it. Drugs aren’t evil. Abuse is a fucking symptom. No one does heroin cuz its a super fun party drug and they just happened to get addicted whoops my bad. You do heroin because you fucking hate yourself.

    TL;DR drinking and drugs are super fucking fun for normal, well adjusted people. It’s when you start using them to escape is when you are in a bad place. get help.

    in conclusion, and so forth, dont be weird. have fun and party. its ok! dont end up being some lonely social retard (*this guy*) who has to refuse champagne at work parties because ‘no i cant drink we have a family history that stuff can really mess you up so im edge cuz for me i like to live a healthy….’ OMFGSTFU you’re a downer.

    PS I do have to comment on these ‘you just need some self control’ fggts. ya know, some people have *legitimate* fucking problems. a friend of mine was a rape victim who started drinking heavy after. if only she wasn’t so weak willed, right? have some fucking compassion. bad shit happens and people deal the best they can. find out why they started abusing in the first place and HELP before you start feeling so self righteous.

    in b4 bleeding heart fggt liberal pussy

    • Jonnyfilth says:

      All of the “self control” comments made by various commenters here obviously weren’t directed at people who’ve been raped dude, use some common sense. We’re talking about annoying edge kids who use edge as a crutch to “overcome” their family’s alcoholism, which is something you obviously agree with. We’re not saying that people who have suffered immensely in their life can’t control themselves, not sure how you managed to twist the words around like that…

      • meatcore says:

        yep,the basic message is dope aint fun bro if you come out from a shitty fam situation/coke is fun for everyone BUT being a dick cos you got a super duper triple tattoo x on your neck is even worst than these two things combined….gotcha

  72. SirCaresALot says:

    I was lstening to a7x and the slipknotz and drinking beerz to rebel as a teen am i normal?

  73. PV 4-ever says:

    If you’re gonna be straightedge, do it to look aesthetic as fuck so you can bang more hos than the average fratboy. All those beers are just empty calories accumulating on your waistline.

  74. petit-bourgeois prick says:

    I’m straight edge and I’m well aware of my reasons for doing so; it’s very easy way of feeling superior or special without doing shit. I do masturbate alot though. It’s great because its free and you can do it alone. Fuck being happy and well adjusted.

  75. tommy t says:

    “also what is up with her disgusting knee” i’m dyin haahaha

  76. Anonymous says:

    I was straight-edge when I was 16. I was even in a crew called the “Prohibition Coalition”, we were gonna kick the booze and purify the scene. I started drinking again a week later.

  77. Jim says:

    Sure is a lot of butthurt going on here. From the comments it seems like the non straight-edge folk give way more fucks about something that really, in the grand scheme of things, doesn’t matter at all.

    • B. Edge says:

      ^ This

      + bunch of d00ds who are convincing each other they made the right choice when they decided to stop being edge. “This life choice is dumb for everyone else because it no longer pertains to MY OWN life, brah!”

      • RJG says:

        Nah it’s more of a “old dudes talk about the silliness of making a lifelong commitment in your teen years/early twenties before you’ve actually figured out who you are as a real person” kinda post.

        • B. Edge says:

          Not in my teens/early 20s anymore. Figured out who I am as a real person. Still don’t drink/smoke/do drugs. Bunch of people in teens/early 20s calling my choice “faggot” on web site. What do?

          • Jim says:

            Yeah, someone earlier on was saying regardless of age that being straight edge makes you a teenager. Perhaps so, but then this ‘teenager’ right here more than likely is much older than you, earns more than you, can bench more than you & has 2 sweet kids via my hot OTW wife.

  78. xpedox says:

    i think going edge is trendy ’cause hopping on that 90′s bandwagon dick.

    also lol at sXe people who still abide by the “Don’t Fuck” thingy. Those are really the sXe guys who are no fun, and usually dont have a girlfriend even cause they are socially retarded.

  79. Shitwagon says:

    I experimented with getting fucked up, boozing, and messing with random chicks as a teenager. I think everyone should try it. It was fun, but wasn’t for me.

  80. Latinoheat!!! says:

    being edge is fucken gay…

    everytime someone breaks edge there should be a celebration at the bar exclaiming “HE’S BREAKING EDGE TONITE!!!” followed by the inclusion of someone bumping fucken Slayer/Hatebreed/Minor Threat (ironically) outta the digital boombox and followed by binge drinking!!! =D

  81. fuzzyxpickles says:

    I really really like drugs and i havent done much, cant wait to do more! but im scared because i like loser drugs like weed and opiates :(

  82. jordan says:

    yea all this is funny but on a related note, i wish i never started drinking/ doing drugs so rather than being straight edge and being really lame, people should learn to do things moderately or not at all…just not rly use the term straight edge to begin with

  83. Lee says:

    This whole post screams, love me love me love me.

    You where an trend hoping moron in your teens, then straight edge wasn’t cool any more so you sold out, you’re probably just as bad now.

  84. chip chipperson says:

    s’many negative comments on this article, it was like a link to it was posted on a hardcore forum or sumptin.

  85. John says:

    I don’t think being weird is bad if it’s coming from a genuine place, though trying to appear weird because you’re massively insecure does make you a laughable person. If you genuinely think a different way than others it is beneficial to society because by you acting and thinking differently, you are actively forcing others to question their own values and identities. Some might say Sergeant D is weird because he’s a hardcore fan that criticizes hardcore… but he just does it a service by making hardcore fans introspect and realize they are doing dumb shit.

    Disingenuous weirdness is pretty pathetic, I’m reminded of that every time I see some dumb girl with badly dyed hair with one side shaved off, but don’t generalize about weirdness being bad: too much uniformity is degenerative for society, and yes, straightedge and oldfaggotry and all that other crap is just another form of uniformity.

    • John says:

      I should add that, when I say “disingenuous weirdness” I don’t mean there is such thing as a person actively trying to be weird and it being genuine. What i mean is that some people just don’t give a shit and actually do have a different mentality on how to live etc. and as such appear weird to others, and that that is a good thing. These people generally would be happy if you were to join them in their way of life/thinking (whatever it is), unlike insecure teens who are elitist about their own ridiculous choices so as to reinforce their own noxious idea of being unique and spcl.

  86. Heard it says:

    This was the stupidest clique of people in the scene. I think it is outstanding that someone pointed out the biggest idiot son of an asshole part of sxe, there are a billion people who don’t drink and don’t shove it down your throat or tell you quite frankly. That’s how the fuck it should be, not some militant go to houses and beat people up that drink shit.

  87. Anonymous says:

    Holy shit. Worst thing I ever read. Can’t beilve you spent that much time writing this and thinking you actually made a point. I like that you continue jumping on bang wagons too. Your the biggest dork.

  88. Wooozy69 says:

    I smoked weed and drank at a young age. It was fun. Then I became straight edge, and I’ve still been having a lot of fun for 15 years now. I was the man in highschool, went to all the parties, crushed it in sports, hooked up with hot chicks, hung out with the jocks and hung out with and stuck up for the nerds too. So if you’re blaming the Edge for being a dork or a loser, it wasn’t the straight edge, its just your personality. You’re just a boring loser. And you’re insecure. Very insecure obviously. That’s why you gotta vent on an online blog thing. This is pretty much a live journal. So, just be yourself, don’t be salty.

  89. Jess says:

    Okay listen, you uneducated judgemental sell-out bitch. I am straightedge. I fucking party every weekend with my friends. But I drink coke instead of beer. NOBODY FUCKING CARES. I see people snorting crack, they start spouting stuff about unicorns, and I’m like “cool man tell them I said hi!” I’ve got tons of friends. Im never alone in the halls. I just party sober and still end up waking up on a trash cans in the back of somebody’s yard. Which then I’m able to recall everything I did because I didnt get wasted. I’m not considered a wierdo. Not even close. My best friends little bro actually looks up to me more than his fucked up drunk abusive father. Not only that but I’m considered the person to go to for a good party. Do you know why you are or were alone? Do you know why you were discluded? BECAUSE OF YOUR FUCKING ATTITUDE!
    And now your just a sell-out.
    Peace.

  90. Pretty Much says:

    Go to Hell.
    Rest in Peace.
    Bitch.

  91. Jonnyfilth says:

    Lol @ the faggot patrol showing up to tell everyone to go 2 hell and stop judging
    OMG SOME RANDOM ON THE INTERNET DISAGREES WITH ME
    THIS INJUSTICE MUST BE STOPPED

  92. Merp Says Says Says says:

    Herp derp.
    That’s what I feel.
    STOP YELLING AT ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  93. sXe says:

    you people are so weak you do what media and “celebrities” like paris hilton and kim kardashian tell you to do, you are the fags your entire life is a meaningless row that you follow just because you did not want to be “weird”

  94. Nakul says:

    I agree to this. But I’m straight edge and of course I’m somewhat introverted. I have good friends too. Its your self control that makes you a sXe or opposite.
    I’m proud being a sXe for life.

  95. Serpico says:

    This entire post, and comments section sounds like a bunch of winy bitches who can’t keep their fucking angst ridden anti-straight edge asshole attitude to themselves they just have to declare how much they hate straight-edge.

    Seriously out of the population on the earth straight edge people account for how much, and all you can do is post about how you were a bandwagon jumping little faggot who has no convictions?

    I mean how sad is that that you literally admit that you lived your life just to impress others. And your the one telling people that choose to remain edge the losers.

    Look in the mirror you little bitch.

  96. Josh says:

    I honestly can’t agree with you on this as i have friends who drink or do drugs but i still hang out with them and party i just don’t drink. I never had to because in the right environment (outside of work or school) I was always able to do things most people have never dreamed of doing and most of my friends never did drunk. Choosing not to drink doesn’t mean i cant go to the bar and have a good time or go to a party and do nothing, it means that I follow what I truly believe because I have never met anyone who was any better off drunk but I have seen peoples lives be ruined because of it. I don’t want to start an argument or anything but your claim just seemed one-sided towards being different is bad, which honestly only someone with low self-esteem really thinks being weird is necessarily bad but everyone is weird because no one acts exactly alike and saying that someone should do what you do when their lifestyle doesn’t harm them or anyone else is just ignorant (no offense).

  97. Anonymous says:

    Fucking idiot that’s not even remotely what it’s about. Lifestyle not fashion faggot

  98. Codarik says:

    “Straight Edge means I’m better than you.” -CM Punk

    Seriously, the things that alchohol and drugs do to you, why would you want to do that to yourself? You people actually like waking up in mornings with a hangover? You like to vomit? I don’t get it.

  99. Stu says:

    Hello, I am a dad (old guy) I drink, and give reason for my 17 year old daughter to want to join your group. We actuallly live in Mormon country, so you could go Mormon and have no need to do with all the things you all fight aginst just live it. I see Straight Edge wanting to be hardcore chemical free but sortof angry?? It seam to be a in you face thing. I’m just not sure why the yelling music, and some acting out. to want to live clean?

  100. Stu says:

    I wish someone sane to explain to me why if you don’t wish to intake these things, why do you just not do them, why is there click, a sorta gang theme to it.

  101. Jen says:

    Live and let live. Straight edge,not straight edge,in the middle,who cares?
    This seems like a manifesto for losers.

    • BrendanDCLXVI says:

      Agreed. As someone who has spent an equal amount of time on each side of the proverbial fence, I believe people should make their own lifestyle choices and decide what’s right for themselves (and themselves alone).

  102. Anonymous says:

    “Being weird is bad”
    “Being WEIRD is bad”
    “Being weird IS BAD”

  103. Anonymous says:

    Whoever writes these articles should probably spend more time in college and less on the internet, because they articulate like a high school student with a 2.0. But look, I totally get that you’re catering to a demographic of teenage internet boys, so this must be easy reading. You have to sell your shit to someone, right?

  104. Anonymous says:

    This is the worst hate-filled circle jerk I’ve ever read. Get over yourselves and get the idea that not everyone is gonna be just like you.

  105. Godeye says:

    Oh holy fuck, this is still getting comments.

  106. Anonymous says:

    You say straight edge do goto party’s . They do and there party’s are full of drugs and alcohol they just have the strength to say no to drugs and beer. The human body does not need any poisons in them. Or to wake up in some hoes apartment with there wallet missing and shoes taken off there feet.

  107. August says:

    Can I just give a big “FUCK YOU” out…
    Im sorry but the one person i do know that has a “Kill your local drug dealer” hoodie has actually curb stomped and put more than a few drug dealers in the hospital.
    Straight Edge is a lifetime commitment and Im sorry that youre too big of a pussy to have stuck to it.
    Its about being clear minded and not having pollutants put into your body.
    I am so absolutely beyond happy that I chose this lifestyle. Its saved me from making plenty of stupid decisions.
    I will proudly wear the X’s and let people know that I dont need the crutches that they do.
    I will let them know that I will not succumb to their pitiful ways. So thanks a lot douchebag for selling out as soon as you were old enough to drink.
    You dont have to love Hardcore music to be straight edge either. There are straight edge rappers too.
    You act like you were so dumb for not going with the crowd and being what society wants you to be.
    Thats not dumb thats smart. Do you not see all the stigmas that society has for the youth today?
    That we all party, that people with tattoos are losers, that if you stretch your lobes you’re a hippie.
    I like to prove the stigmas wrong. Thanks for proving them right.

    • Dr. Trash says:

      I’m sure those Xs and stretched ears helped you get a good job and a girlfriend.

      Honestly, the people who are shit at life and really shouldn’t be edge are the people who are. No wonder I’ve never met an edge kid who wasn’t always angry.

  108. sXe Til I Die.. Naturally says:

    if you “stopped being straight edge”, you never were straight edge you drunk fucking loser.

  109. Dr. Trash says:

    I never realised straight edge was meant to be a lifetime commitment. I always thought it was just a fad.

  110. Truthism says:

    You try way too hard. Stop copying Americanised, Internet humo(u)r from 2007 and you might write something amusing or worth reading.

  111. Larry says:

    I’m Straight Edge, and I’m 18 and in College. Your description of what being sXe is like is far from true. I still go out, I go party, I go to clubs. Granted there are plenty of sXe people who are dicks about it, but those are few. All of my friends drink, I don’t care, most of them don’t even know I’m Straight Edge. I don’t support the whole “kill your drug dealer” thing either. I became Straight Edge for myself, not for anyone else, if people are going to judge me then fuck them.

  112. Ali says:

    I never knew any sxe kids. I didn’t even know what that term meant until I googled it last year. However, I never drank or smoked in high school or college. Everyone who did was either fucking retarded to begin with or ended up fucking retarded. And the few who could handle their shit? They were more interesting sober. When I finally did give drinking a try in my mid 20s, guess what? It was pretty mediocre. I can understand why people have fun with it, but it’s only ‘good’ in context. Realistically, it’s fucking retarded. Needing to be buzzed to have fun is just as bad as needing to insist on being straight-edge.

    Drunk people range from inconsistently amusing to fucking unbearable if you’re sober. High people, even more so. I go out and party with my friends when things are dull, but I have a lot more fun in the company of a handful of cool sober people who aren’t desperately clinging to the remnants of their youth via vodka.

    I guess what it really comes down to is this: most people are boring and do boring shit. Thus, they need alcohol or drugs to ‘flavor’ it. I’d rather just do something interesting.

  113. Edgefag says:

    I’d first like to point out that you, quite frankly, are an asshole. You can be sXe and go to bars without getting drunk. It’s possible to have fun with people without ruining your judgement, in fact, I would even say that I have more fun when I’m sober. Watch a show called ‘Wicked Single’ on VH1 and tell me what you think. I hate people like that, and I hate people like you. So give up already, because nobody’s listening. The world is changing, and people are realizing that making the conscious decision to remain in a natural state of being is actually a pretty damn good idea, and everyone is finally starting to see that doing stupid shit like going to a bar every other day of the workweek throws your life in the shitter. Getting drunk is a cheap escape, it takes maturity to realize what’s good for you, and having fun is not that hard when you do it responsibly.

    • Pat says:

      I think that what everyone’s taking issue with is the attitude that a lot of sxe kids have that basically says if you drink or smoke or w.e. you’re automatically a alcoholic drug addict or some shit. you mention Wicked Single. I’m actually from Boston, have been in bars and shit, and can tell you almost noone acts like that. All you guys are doing is creating a straw man.

  114. Tanner says:

    I have never understood where people got the idea that you have to be drunk and take drugs to have a good time.

    • Phillip says:

      One of these sad life forms up there ACTUALLY TRIED to state a “FACT”! He said that activities were in “FACT” more fun while drunk. This is fact! LMAO
      I do not understand it either.

  115. Phillip says:

    I would just like to point out that the gentleman that wrote this is literally, by all means of the word, dumb. Just plain fucking dumb.

    You are saying a wide variety of things that are easily going to appeal to the masses. 8/10 people are going to agree with you. And 1 out of the other 2 are going to keep going after they read and not waste their time. Unfortunately that is all I have in this moment so I am going to take the bait.

    You are following the simple straight edge stereotype formula and forgetting that we are people too. Human beings. Not characters in a film or a television show. Real people with real brains that function just as well as anyone else.

    Are you spot on with a lot of your statements? You are close. I will give you that. A lot of people do buy in to the movement to fit in with a small group of people in hopes to stand out. But for the rest of us? We like the music. We like the idea. It is a great concept. Why am I dumb for keeping myself healthy and free from all these things that are proven to not be good for you. In moderation will they kill you? No. But why gamble when unnecessary? Why chance getting addicted to something that smells bad, tastes bad, is bad for you, and is expensive, all in hopes of a good time? There is no justification for these actions based on the principle of “fun” and “fun” alone. Ever been to an amusement park? Or white-water rafting? Or base-jumping? Or sight-seeing? Or on a damn walk to look at this beautiful Earth? Or is that to much of an obscure concept?

    I am very sorry that you, people with your mindset, and the majority of society is raised on this principle that, “party = substance use and party = fun and fun = life” First off. There is much more to life than fun and if that is your thought then I will fire back with your “$10 an hour job” argument.

    I party. It is fun. I like dancing. And music. And socializing. And remembering what I did the night before. And not having to fight everyone or embarrass myself to the masses simply in the name of a good time. I will go streaking with you and yell with you and be obnoxious and spontaneous and then drive your stupid ass home and put you to bed. That is me. A babysitter. A fun – loving babysitter.

    You use the constant theme in your piece that straight edge is weird and nerdy and that only losers are different. One of the most ignorant and downright stupid things I have ever heard. True innovative people and the real masterminds behind this society have all been standouts in their own right. I will not name a single one of them because the list is endless. It is you who is boring and lame for fitting the mold. Following in the footsteps of millions before you. Try thinking for yourself for a change and then possibly you can understand these concepts.

    I can go to bars and drink bottled water and whip your ass in a game of pool and out sing you every time on karaoke night and have more fun than you with your head in the toilet. I will get the girl twice as often as you because I will not be slurring my words and falling over with glazed over eyes. And if those are the girls you are after, your typical one night standee then I am very sorry and I hope the line at vaccination center is as long as the list of reasons why the mentality is ignorant.

    You lack knowledge. Why is it a good thing to have sex with someone you met ten minutes ago? It is not. No reason. Cannot convince me and my intelligent quotient is 137. I grasp concepts fairly easy with an intellect of that level. And I will say, that is a bad idea. Let alone the physical possibilities of harm. What about the emotional? Sure you may “not give no fucks”. But somewhere, deep in you psyche, you have to live with that. That you are a user and an abuser and you yourself have been used. You have no self respect and have even less respect for the female body. So congratulations, you are everything that your precious, normal society loathes at its core.

    Causing bodily harm to yourself whether external or internal is downright self mutilation and you are sick if you condone this type of behavior.

    Lastly, I will say that being Straight Edge is not about spin-kicks and the letter x and being a badass just to be cool. It is about living a clean lifestyle and surrounding yourself with a code of honor and pride and decency that a maggot like you could never understand. The fact of the matter is, I, me, myself, and all other true straight edgers, literally CAN DO SOMETHING THAT YOU ARE UNCAPABLE OF.

    And 9/10 people WILL say/think, “I CAN live without it all, I just don’t WANT to.” And if that is what you have to tell yourself just feel a little less inferior then you do that. Hell make of us some more but the fact of the matter is, we have already won the battle. There is no discussion. It is a smarter way of life. A more intelligent approach at living.

    In closing, I will leave you with this little gem: We live in a country that is as close to free as you will ever find. Which means. You can do whatever the hell you want. Half of the time you will be breaking the law and all of the time you will be making bad moral decisions, but, you may do this due to the set of values and rights we hold in our country. And also, most straight edge people above this threshold of 25 you ever so graciously created, are not the ones to speak out against the other side they are just like me, quiet and calm/collected until provoked. Bottom line, this post was unnecessary and unneeded as was mine. I let my pride get the best of me and you let your insecurities and incessant want to be liked get the best of you. You leave us alone and we leave you alone. Tis the concept of world peace. Let me be So what? I do not want to drink and do drugs? Cool. Why does that bother you? They are my poor choices in your opinion. You want to do those things? Cool. Does not bother me. They are your poor choices, in my opinion.

    Agree to disagree. Move on. Handshake and never look back. No need to be a revolutionary and blog about something that you obviously have no control over.

    This is just my two cents and of course I will get bashed and called an asshole and hypocrite and dumb and a fag and a pussy and you will insult my mother and you will all claim to have gotten more sex than me, that is great. Again, I am glad I could be of assistance to you in letting you vent all of your insecurities. Email me if you have anymore. I am nice guy and make for great, civil, intelligent conversation. Thanks and enjoy your night assuming you are able to remember it and stay out of jail and disease free.

    • xFredSavagecorex says:

      Dude, ether lighten up, or go back to the B9 message board. The point of this post is not to bash Straightedge as a general ‘movement’, but to warn young kids what COULD happen if they follow that route. Sarge is not trying to dictate what you do, he’s just giving advice from his own experience.

      We all love you, brah. Beef safe.

  116. Dennis says:

    U guys r my frands.

  117. Robert Smith says:

    I play classical guitar. I also do not enjoy drink of alcohol. It’s very much bad. I am very much straight edge like my friend Phillip.

  118. Brandon Curme says:

    This is the biggest pile of crap article that I have ever read. You confesend ti call straight edge people derogatory names and outcast them more. Even though what they are doing is a smart life choice. You said getting wasted and hsving random sex eas awesome, you’re a douchebag.

  119. Brandon Curme says:

    I think it’s sad that idiots like you like to persicute those who are different. Just because you are to week and afraid to stand for anything. If you have to be drunk or on drugs to have a good time then you’re probably not that interesting in the first place. I don’t lol foreign on those who drink or do drugs, I just question why you would choose to do something that is obviously bad for you just to be cool. That is sad pathetic and insecure.

    • xFredSavagecorex says:

      “I just question why you would choose to do something that is obviously bad for you just to be cool”:
      Because these are the favourite pastimes of normal people and there is nothing more important than fitting in with normal people. You may roue the idea of being like everyone else now, but once you get older, you will realise that this is a vital key to gaining contacts for work and even love interest.

      Please bro, we love you <3

      • Tanner says:

        I’m 21, and don’t care how well I “Fit in”. I do as I please and anybody who doesn’t like it isn’t worth my time. I am not going to take up alcohol and drug use just to please someone.

  120. Brandon Curme says:

    If he is just warning what could happen from being straight edge then why does he insult thise who are though out three entire post. How sbout saying what could happen if you go the route of abusing drugs snd alcohol. Sure you may be socially awkward in high school because you don’t act stupid and get wasted like evryone else, but at least you don’t never a strung out junkie loser just to be cool. I was a drug addict throughout high school snd was still sn outcast. I did everthing that was”cool” and all Iit did eas waste a large chunk of my life. So for some moron to spout out stupid shit like “being wasted is fucking awesome” pisses me off. He needs to go educate himself and get a real life.

    • VyceVictus says:

      He doesnt ned to insult anybody, you are inulting the lifestyle just fine yourself by being a butthurt crybaby.

  121. Brandon Curme says:

    By the way I am older, and I am secure enough in my life to not need the approval of everyone. I do what I know is best for me in my life.

  122. Brandon Curme says:

    I don’t claim straight edge. I simply think that making blanket statements about any group of people is ignorant. This is basically a huge article that boils down to drugs and alcohol are cool bro. It’s pathetic.

    • xFredSavagecorex says:

      Well in reality, drugs and alcohol are cool and there’s nothing wrong with that. There is a middle ground between tee-total and addict and it’s called moderate, you know, what the average person is. And that’s totally where the SxE argument falls down.

  123. Brandon Curme says:

    What is it that makes drugs and alcohol “cool”. Is it the loss of control or the fact that it ruins allot of lives on a daily basis.

    • VyceVictus says:

      People been geting high and drunk for thousands of years because it feels good. Dont act like consuming that stuff is ruining civilization. The same monks who preserved written texts in the dark ages are the same ones who made beer.

      • xFredSavagecorex says:

        “The same monks who preserved written texts in the dark ages are the same ones who made beer”:

        Even to this day, most of Belgium’s major churches and cathedrals have their own onsite breweries

  124. Brandon Curme says:

    Yes but we as society abuse drugs and alcohol. It is a sad fact. I simply think that some idiot bashing on people for making good life choices is pure ignorance. If you want to drink that’s fine, if you want to get high it’s your life. Don’t sit there and insult people who are trying to stay sober sinply because you “think drugs are fucking awesome”.

    • xFredSavagecorex says:

      But that can be said for you guys on the other side. If you sit there and look down on people because they are doing something that makes them feel good, than you’re nothing but a weirdo. But if you take it a step further and make a giant display and debate out of it, you make people really not like you. People don’t think you’re progressive and right on, they think you’re an attention seeking bitch.

      • Xtrogen says:

        It is true that Edge bands and followers can get somewhat angry or disappointed that something as negative as Alcohol that causes so much pain can be praised. Many people are forced into alcohol because “they are socially awkward if they don’t drink”. Or tell me again how do you learned that alcohol was cool and fun? Your parents, your friends, the media? I am sure that you did not figure it out on your own. If so than only because it is so easily accessible… Does that make it ok already? Does it make it something that should not be questioned? This is why at least I (who is drug free and not afraid to claim straight edge) have the feeling to go against these endless floods of ads and peer-pressure to be a counter-weight if you will. Not by screaming, just by not advertising. If you have the feeling that not drinking is weird then you have been brainwashed just like you claim Edgers to be brainwashed. Sure, people go into SXE because friends do (Still I am the only one in my circle) and if they later “regret” it, than this is not my problem. However, who makes them regret? Shit like “I had such an awesome time drinking” blahblah. It’s exaggerating and could be done without alcohol. I was drunk too and yeah I had fun, but I also had fun being sober (took a while to reprogram though since this notion is so deeply programmed in our heads). It works the same without having these horrible effects on society, people just need to try. Trying to pull somebody out of alcohol abuse cannot be wrong. So many people approached me (24, edge for almost 7 years) and saw that I still had fun at parties and met girls. They were inspired because they didn’t know that one can have a social life without alcohol. “Fun” is very relative and if you can live with supporting the alcohol industry who targets young and poor people than that is your thing. But don’t judge someone who does not advertise. If you drink you advertise and I cannot stop you. If people can advertise drinking, I can advertise not to drink, it is about the same. I don’t scream in people’s faces but I like to wear SXE shirts. I want change, because people will continue to observe and imitate, choose alcohol as a way of having fun, as coping, some end up driving drunk, abusing, raping, hitting, domestic violence, etc. This is not all the fault of alcohol, however if these people have learned healthier alternatives, the outcome would have been different. Fact is, innocent people are getting hurt by drunks and people are getting forced into being drunks.
        Funny that someone also said that building a life around something as trivial as SXE is weird. However, many comments suggest that people build their life around drinking (only way to get girls, friends, work contacts). So what now? So is drinking trivial or not? How cannot drinking be more weird than drinking? If you think so than you have been made that way, that doesn’t mean you cannot break out. Well bro, you can evolve, you can change and your mind is capable of all that, having fun, talking to girls, and acting like a fool when you are sober (maybe too scared to try it sober, afraid of not having the fun everybody else describes? Not having the balls to talk to a girl?) Saying having no fun without alcohol is saying having no fun because my personality is not fun and I need the alcohol (saying you are addicted? Not in a sense of addicted addicted, but you clearly seem to need it, like food and water). Maybe change then? I don’t hurt anyone, but I have seen people get hurt, know that they are getting raped, get scarred for life or loosing loved ones. I feel sorry for people who do not know what SXE means to people and that it can change their and others lives. Life without alcohol is just as possible as life with. Otherwise you are an addict. Maybe the world would be a happier place, with less death, less fucked up shit, more good clean fun. So, I don’t get all the hate for SXE as I am just trying to portray a healthy alternative to alcohol, which is hardly ever present out there. I give my life value everyday, there is no formula (have sex with 50 girls, be drunk X many times) for happiness in life. But what we need is compassion. Oh and btw, when all you get out of that is that I think I am better then you, then maybe you are right, because that makes you really selfish and all me-me-me. Make the world a better place, if you do not try that, well then I am better because at least I try. We do it for the weak, not for the strong.

  125. Brandon Curme says:

    I don’t look down on anyone that drinks responsibly or doesn’t abuse drugs. I just have a problemwiyh people being insulted because they choose not to partake in them. I also think when someone makes statements like” it’s fun to get wasted and have sex with strangers” hasnt fully grown up. You should do what makes you happy, without infringing on the lives of others.

    • VyceVictus says:

      The correlary to that however is “when you are young”. Sergeant D has fully and repeatedly espoused that he is over the partying lifestyle now that he is a functioning (successful) adult in a healthy relationship. He recommends that younger readers by all means experience partying or other fun recreational activities, so long as they can be responsible or at least recognize when it’s time to tone it down. That’s the point if this post.

  126. Brandon Curme says:

    If that were the point of the post (which it doesn’t appear to be) it could have been made in a much more tactful and respectful manner. To blame an entire subculture if society for the problems of your youth is pathetic. We make our own choices good or bad. I did the exact oppisote if him in highschool and was just as cast out. I’m saying that he ciuld have made his point wuthout the insults, he chose the low road.

    • VyceVictus says:

      This is a comedy blog where we make fun of stuff bro, generally stuff we like. I mean look at the name of the goddman website. Of course, I can see how being a humorless wetblanket kinda dampens the impact of it. Whatever, thats your problem. Cry more.

  127. Lord Percival Pudgepickle says:

    Absolutely no straight edgers are allowed in my kingdom… peasants!

  128. Asdfgjkg says:

    Your an idiot, okay? Yeah, at least I’ll remember the stuff I do.If someone doesn’t want to hang out with me cause I’m straight edge then screw them. It’s a lifestyle, showing you can be in to punk or whatever without getting stoned. I’ve done all that stupid shit, it isn’t fun. It is not fun waking up feeling sick with no money left cause your dealer took it all. With that I conclude how my dad died: drinking, partying, and doing drugs, and when he was dying he said those were the things he regretted most in life, cause they ruined him.

  129. haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa says:

    What a dumb article. A good laugh, but lacked any bit of info to back up any claim whatsoever. So in the end, all it is is a good laugh.

  130. michael says:

    You obviously don’t know what straight-edge really is about. It’s not about going and bashing kids that do drugs and drink. I’m edge, most of my friends smoke that sticky icky. Anyone who was edge for the puritanical mindset was a fucking tool. And yes, I’m referring to most of the kids on this page, which from reading, seem to have been posted by 15 year old, or kids who were not actually involved in hardcore. and if you honestly didn’t have any friends when you were straight edge you were doing it wrong. I still go to parties, I just watch everyone else get trashed and still have a good time. There is a level of maturity that it seems you didn’t take on.

    A+ job bashing something you never really were.

  131. Jesse H. says:

    Holy shit dude, did you not notice how you said being extremely against something is a bad lifestyle when you are obviously extremely against straight edge? And also, you said straight edge people can’t get a good job, drunks and druggies can barely hold a job. A lot of people work for low wages, why only call out the straight edge people, at least they don’t need to spend money to feed an addiction that will hurt later in life.

  132. Danielle says:

    I’m not even straight edge, and this offends me.
    If people don’t want to do drugs, they don’t have to. Wow.

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