Here at Stuff You Will Hate we pride ourselves on hard hitting, investigative journalist that hell, even Alter The Press would be jealous of. So we try to make important cultural assessment of the bands and the music scenes of yesteryear. Our story starts with the ‘scene’ (see here for a quick crash course). It is probably the weirdest of all counter cultures. By that I mean, a part from it’s lack of distinct naming it is extremely simplistic to be associated with the scene. No politics, no religion, no care; just a flamboyant haircut, neon-gore t-shirt with dangerously skinny jeans and a strange desire to chrip and death growl in public. But with this subculture debates have raised over each band and how they contributed to the scene.
Perhaps too srs for pop punk, and too clean for moshcore, almost like its popmo-
Lets say we have a check list for what makes a ‘scene’ band: Cute singer with lots of tattoos, huge breakdowns, Impact font-ready slogans, relentless self-promotion.
Cute singer with lots of tattoos (the no homo section):
In fairness, Jeremy McKinnon is attractive, so he’s always had that going with him. But the band only started to get sleeves on their very clean skin in 2010. Is it only when they’re big they acquire tattoos? Well there’s no place for poseurs in the scene. UN CHECKED
Huge Breakdowns:
[youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQmpjFmB9yg]CHECK
Impact font-ready slogans:
I think this bands built on slogan breakdowns and impact font on the back attire. A thing found in the scene all the time.
Impact ready slogans?
Comedy/neon inspired gore for their t shirts?
CHECK
Relentless self promotion:
To me this is a good thing and a bad thing. The good thing is that these are the kinds of bands that aren’t self righteous about their fame and willingly act as a support band just so long as they tour. And ADTR are just like that, they still tour underneath Bring Me The Horizon and Rise Against despite having a huge fanbase. The bad thing, they use to advertise themselves all the fucking time, like those bands on last.fm who won’t leave me the fuck alone. Fuck you polish electronicore band with 400 facebook fans. CHECK
[youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PeWlX67-khk]
Why aren’t ADTR scene:
Bottom line, they’re too clean, the fashion just doesn’t add up to a scene band. Also as you can see from the above promo shots they are far srs from 2009 onwards. However, a lot of their old shots show then as guys pulling stupid poses and showing themselves as chillbros. Their musical appeal is enough to make them scene while still capable of making a successful mainstream crossover. Obviously they had their share of fans who were scene, (i.e. most BMTH fans are ADTR fans) but I see them as fitting in best with garden variety pop-punk (ie, they are more like blink than parkway drive).
Do you believe ADTR are scene? Are they just in the pop punk scene or do they just appealing to both fan bases? Should this kind of research appear on the SYWH front page or is this just ridiculous?
easycore
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hmm. the fanbase in definately in the realm of scene, although you bring up 4826 good points.
yeah idk, they don’t have a very scene sound imo, and they don’t really look scene either, but their fanbase is scene as FUK for some reason.
they tour with the metalcore scene thus helps them develop a fan base in the with metalcore peeps quickly. Also in comparison to other easycore bands like FYS and the like is that they write emo style lyrics for the most part. #pesudoemotionssellguys
would agree that they look too much like bros to be really scene. More like a standard pop-punk with scene roots and crossover scene appeal.
when ADTR comes to mind, i just think FAT BREAKDOWNS and Easycore…
oh and the Jeremy McKinnon is pretty cute too :)
I feel like I got trolled, someone changed the title slightly and published a half finished post. I have a pending one about Bring me the horizon which is 100% done IMO.
you have some solid points, i agree with :”but I see them as fitting in best with garden variety pop-punk (ie, they are more like blink than parkway drive).” if ADTR had to become all environmentalcore i would feel very sad. long live Disrespect your surroundings!
Cheers man, some of this was modelled on a post Serg joked about making ages ago, I thought it was an opportunity to make a check-list for ‘what is scene’.
whoops, sorry, i thought it was finished– apologies! i always tell people to save posts as pending so i will know when theyre done but almost nobody does so i have to guess.
my bad!
Nah it’s cool. If anything it forced my lazy ass to write the remaining pieces in 30 mins when I had been putting it off for days. But in the rush I may have made a few grammar errors…
Scene is a transmutable concept. For ATDR to be scene in 2012, they would need jean jackets and ltd casette releases like contemporary scene bands such as titel fites or the converges.
Too Bro To Scene
any time someone talks about a day to remember I always think of this
http://archive.installgentoo.net/board/sci/thumb/0043/33/1328476379376s.jpg
i could only find it in a tiny resolution though.
a day tu rember pls
MAOR LIEK A GAY TO REMEMBER LOL HEY GUISE HAHA
go back lambgoat.
Scene Rulez.
Brah pls, PLSSSSS.
You act like lambgoat sucks haha
Go back to scene.com, bro
lol
YOUR RIGHT THERE BUDDY HUEEHEHEHEHEHE
They can rot in hell for all I care
are you mad? you seem mad.
sounds like u take ADTR very srs
i tried putting them in my easycore playlist, but their breakdowns are too huge, they just don’t fit
its too big!!
Try the warming his/hers breakdown lube.
LOL
had to make a medley of old Four Year Strong breakdowns to “stretch it out” first, couldn’t go straight to ADTR
“trousers” lol r u an chav
More likely an AZN. This reads like it was written in moonspeak and then run through a translator that gives you lulzy words instead of normal ones.
u wot m8
TROUSERS GONNA TROU
TROUDALOO MOTHERFUCKERS!!
do not think anyone in ADTR is attractive. jeremy mckinnon isn’t groce, per se, just unappealing. i listen to a shameful amount of ADTR tho.
i think they are all grose, borderline whales (except the drummer)
My victory records merch catalog (that i receive quarterly) has ADTR featured with Emmure on the cover and my god! what happened to them, Most of ADTR are almost on Thanoz’s level of tubby-tubs.
I think that the singer srs looks like he has downs syndrome but I used to know a guy who drum tech’d for them and he confirmed he is neck deep in barely legal pink everynight.
Perhaps they need to read Sarge’s post on how2dress
They r sorely in need of a combo fat/slut-shaming, then judgement-by-scene. They need to remember what day this is & who’s in charge of it.
i feel like around here i know more straight-up bros that dig ADTR than scenesters.
Their 1st album is pretty close to emo imo
No white girls in this post… therefore DO NOT CARE!!! =P
next post here i cum…
U and i need to trade races
My fav Pete Wentz band, Race Trader…
Hello, and welcome to another episode of “jokes that are lost on the hardcore scene”. Where I your host, tr00 herper will start with “nu♘♘tej”, a boy from America with a taste for proto-Fall Out Boy jokes.
Way to blow up my spot bro, I hadn’t even got to the 3 octaroon’s for 1 Nicaraguan 40HP card joke or the 16 4ft. tall emaciated N. Koreans = 1 Soul Tithe, Enchantment – Aura card jokes yet, BUT NOW YOU’VE RUINED IT. I hope ur pleased with yourself.
Uh….wow, I am confus. The fans are of the ‘scene’ subculture, and so is the era which spawned it, yet its image is srs.
But tell you what, ADTR albums are mostly posted in Mexican/Indonesian mediafire blogs under ‘Hardcore’ or ‘Post-hardcore’ tag. Based on this observation, I conclude that ADTR is not scene.
Interesting point. (srs) On another note: I really don’t get how ADTR is considered post-hardcore.